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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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Twins3007 · 23/01/2025 14:28

I presume Toilet Trees are toiletries in America ?? only saying as I noticed your a teacher ,

Wexone · 23/01/2025 14:28

He sounds overly enmeshed with his mother which can be a real issue
I don't think so. How many women say that their mother is their best friend and they tell them everything! If it was a women saying this and the husband complaining it be interesting to hear responses

Lovesacake · 23/01/2025 14:28

I agree this is an over reaction, you’re reacting as though he has given her access to your bank accounts and copies of statements. It sounds like you’re very keen to prove how mature and grown up you are but your reaction to this innocuous conversation suggests otherwise.

Ohnonotmeagain · 23/01/2025 14:28

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:24

He isn’t subsidizing me. We are engaged to be married. It’s a team effort. I was with him when he lived in a tiny one bedroom apartment that was run down and awful for him to live in. I stayed with him through everything and moved to be with him without question. You don’t think my support through all of that is worth nothing?? You think financial is the only way I can contribute to a relationship? It’s not like I’m siting on my ass. I work full time just like he does I just happen to be in a lower paying career not my fault my career as a teacher is underpaid. Making less money doesn’t mean I work not as hard. I also pay the internet all the utilities toilet trees meals handle the home renovations so if her son was single he would have to worry about all that. My time of planning and arranging the home renovations mean something.

we are both very happy as money is something we bent argue over our financial set up and as an adult it’s not his mom’s business or even a right to have a say or opinion on

Why isn’t keeping the house clean and tidy a “team effort”?

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:29

FunkyColdMargarita · 23/01/2025 14:23

Also, are you working full time? Because if so it doesn't matter that you make less money.. you shouldn't be in charge of also cleaning the house!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5258197-is-this-a-fair-way-to-split-finances?page=1

Yes I work full time but apparently the majority of mumsnet think it’s ok for my fiancé to invite his mother into our private finances and I don’t have a say in any of it. And that his mother has a right to butt into her adult son’s future marriage. And apparently they think we should split the finances down to the exact T and live as roommates rather than a romantically involved couple about to be married. I should accept his mother being the third person in our relationship. And his mother should come before me. Oh and forget the fact I was with my fiance for years before he was established in his career and supported every career move he made since then including leaving my home town and family and friends without question to be with him that emotional support and proof of love and commitment means nothing. The only thing that matters is we don’t make the exact same amount therefore I’m using him for his money.

haha all that being said I don’t mind cleaning the whole house as that’s another way I contribute to the household.

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DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 23/01/2025 14:29

Do not get married unless you work through this together.

FWIW to me his relationship with his mother sounds lovely and normal. I have the same kind of relationship with my parents, as does my brother. DH and his sister each have that same kind of relationship with their parents (my in-laws). IMHO a man’s relationship with his parents (particularly his mother) shows what his relationship will be like with his wife.

You however sound much more guarded/untrusting/private. That’s not necessarily wrong, but it does mean you are very different at a basic level and you may find that while this works in a young relationship it doesn’t work so well in a long term marriage, and particularly if you eventually have adult children yourselves.

stampin · 23/01/2025 14:29

What a fuss about nothing.

Toilet trees on the other hand is driving me potty.

Hollietree · 23/01/2025 14:29

Reverse from the post yesterday. Yawn.

Peachy2005 · 23/01/2025 14:31

Did his mother post about this yesterday? 😂 Hopefully you can get something from that post, I see there is a link above.

FWIW I don’t tell my family much about our finances; I think DH sometimes tells his family too much and I’ve sometimes stepped in to say “they don’t need to know that”. Good luck!

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:32

Ohnonotmeagain · 23/01/2025 14:28

Why isn’t keeping the house clean and tidy a “team effort”?

Well remember I’m trash for not bringing in the exact same money to a T as my fiancé so I have to make myself useful somewhere. No nut in all seriousness it’s the arrangement we came up with. Since I did feel bad (which my fiance shut down right away) that my career choice paid less than his I agreed hey I’ll take care of the household burdens such as cleaning and keeping up with home repairs and arranging those. It’s an arrangement that works for us and we are both happy with our arenahemrnt from everything to finances to division of household labor.

Now if I did say it’s my fiancé’s home too he needs to help
clean everyone would be focused solely on the money aspect and say how dare you he carried the financial burden the least you could do is keep after the home. Feel like I can’t win on here.

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smellydog1 · 23/01/2025 14:33

Like I said before, OP is asking is she being unreasonable. She admits that the majortity vote is very much YES SHE IS! But still wont listen to reason, she will move on from this thread and find someone who will agree with her then she will feel justified. We are wasting our time on this one, stubborn and opinionated control freak by all accounts.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:33

Nope it’s my first time posting on here

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melandlover · 23/01/2025 14:34

In my culture it is common that parents and adult kids share finacial details. My parents know about our income, morgage and savings even though I lived abroad for over 20 years I feel still very close to them emotionaly. My DH has no problems with this because he knows that my parents always put us first and are genuinely happy for us if we are doing well. They helpped us with our house deposit and never expected anything in return. Whenever there is a promotion or pay rise, they are they first people I would want to share the news with. My DH on the other hand doesnt share our finacial details with his parents because in the past they have used this information against us and made us feel guilty. I guess it really depends on what kind of parents they are.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:36

Wexone · 23/01/2025 14:28

He sounds overly enmeshed with his mother which can be a real issue
I don't think so. How many women say that their mother is their best friend and they tell them everything! If it was a women saying this and the husband complaining it be interesting to hear responses

Talking everyday and divulging all of their personal finances and life information on a silver platter isn’t enmeshed? Then what is? And I don’t want my man to be best friends with his mother. Yes I know it’s crazy that I want my soon to be husband to put me before his mother and be my best friend.

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FunkyColdMargarita · 23/01/2025 14:37

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:29

Yes I work full time but apparently the majority of mumsnet think it’s ok for my fiancé to invite his mother into our private finances and I don’t have a say in any of it. And that his mother has a right to butt into her adult son’s future marriage. And apparently they think we should split the finances down to the exact T and live as roommates rather than a romantically involved couple about to be married. I should accept his mother being the third person in our relationship. And his mother should come before me. Oh and forget the fact I was with my fiance for years before he was established in his career and supported every career move he made since then including leaving my home town and family and friends without question to be with him that emotional support and proof of love and commitment means nothing. The only thing that matters is we don’t make the exact same amount therefore I’m using him for his money.

haha all that being said I don’t mind cleaning the whole house as that’s another way I contribute to the household.

You really will mind if you choose to have kids in the future. Start as you mean to go on. It's difficult to know just how much extra work is already heaped on to women after children until you experience it.

You're going to get abused because MN doesn't like Americans. Its the one country they feel comfortable being open about it.

sandyhappypeople · 23/01/2025 14:37

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:52

But I am half of that financial set up so yes if I don’t want that discussed I feel my fiancé need to respect that boundary. If finances are between a couple why did he need to discuss that with his mother in the first place? To get her approved? Her ok? Just not sure why he feels his mother is owed an exact financial breakdown. That’s what I worry about in our future him inviting his mother into our marriage by telling her things that aren’t her business. Like what is he hoping to accomplish by doing that? I’m worried he is trying to seek her approval. It feels like he should be putting my feelings first

You are being massively unreasonable.

If I was your fiance I'd be really offended by what you are implying.

Relatives who are close share a lot of details about their relationships, households, problems, successes, and everything in between, for no other reason then that open channel of communication is what keeps them close, they 'share' each others lives, when used for love and support it is not a negative thing in the slightest, it is a form of support. Why you think there is something terrible about that speaks more about you and your insecurities then it does about him talking to his mum.. you also seem to be laying the blame on her, and her 'motives' for wanting to know, even though he seems to be volunteering this information freely. You sound jealous of their close relationship to be honest.

Crying over a miscommunication is completely manipulative, if something as innocuous as how your finances are split is something you want to keep top secret then don't you think you would have had that conversation before now?

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:37

Peachy2005 · 23/01/2025 14:31

Did his mother post about this yesterday? 😂 Hopefully you can get something from that post, I see there is a link above.

FWIW I don’t tell my family much about our finances; I think DH sometimes tells his family too much and I’ve sometimes stepped in to say “they don’t need to know that”. Good luck!

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Oh no you stepped in! You are going to be labeled a control freak for asserting your feelings in your marriage. How dare you express any sort of opinion to your partner!!

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FunkyColdMargarita · 23/01/2025 14:38

smellydog1 · 23/01/2025 14:33

Like I said before, OP is asking is she being unreasonable. She admits that the majortity vote is very much YES SHE IS! But still wont listen to reason, she will move on from this thread and find someone who will agree with her then she will feel justified. We are wasting our time on this one, stubborn and opinionated control freak by all accounts.

You know you're in charge of closing threads right?

justteanbiscuits · 23/01/2025 14:40

I think you need to seriously consider your relationship. You want him to be something he isn't by the sounds of it. You haven't shown where your mother in law is "enmeshed" any more than being a loving parent. She hasn't begged him for the information, or cried when he wouldn't share - it's sounding like he told her off his own back. Maybe buy a notebook so you can list the rules for your partner.

To be honest, as a mother of sons, you really are my worst nightmare!

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:40

sandyhappypeople · 23/01/2025 14:37

You are being massively unreasonable.

If I was your fiance I'd be really offended by what you are implying.

Relatives who are close share a lot of details about their relationships, households, problems, successes, and everything in between, for no other reason then that open channel of communication is what keeps them close, they 'share' each others lives, when used for love and support it is not a negative thing in the slightest, it is a form of support. Why you think there is something terrible about that speaks more about you and your insecurities then it does about him talking to his mum.. you also seem to be laying the blame on her, and her 'motives' for wanting to know, even though he seems to be volunteering this information freely. You sound jealous of their close relationship to be honest.

Crying over a miscommunication is completely manipulative, if something as innocuous as how your finances are split is something you want to keep top secret then don't you think you would have had that conversation before now?

What would my fiancé be offended about? What am I implying?

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Wexone · 23/01/2025 14:40

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:36

Talking everyday and divulging all of their personal finances and life information on a silver platter isn’t enmeshed? Then what is? And I don’t want my man to be best friends with his mother. Yes I know it’s crazy that I want my soon to be husband to put me before his mother and be my best friend.

Plenty of my friends tell their mother everything, my sister being one of them, she talks to her numerous times a day as well as spend weekends with her. Women have their mother with them at birth, have them stay for weeks on end to help at home, and people will say this is normal , Some women tell their mothers every detail of their sex life finances etc. Why is it ok for women to be best friends with their mother but not a man to be best friends with their mother ? If you don't like it dump him find someone else

He can do both aswell you know

nam3c4ang3 · 23/01/2025 14:41

Sorry OP - you sound hysterical and overdramatic. He sounds close to his mum and you probably aren't as close with yours. This relationship wont work. As a mother to a son (who i am very close to) - you sound hardwork.

FunkyColdMargarita · 23/01/2025 14:42

justteanbiscuits · 23/01/2025 14:40

I think you need to seriously consider your relationship. You want him to be something he isn't by the sounds of it. You haven't shown where your mother in law is "enmeshed" any more than being a loving parent. She hasn't begged him for the information, or cried when he wouldn't share - it's sounding like he told her off his own back. Maybe buy a notebook so you can list the rules for your partner.

To be honest, as a mother of sons, you really are my worst nightmare!

As a mother of sons you're worried you won't be allowed to know that your sons aren't doing any house work amd how they're paying their rent?

Weird.

As a mother of both I find it weird how it's always the mother's of boys that go on and on about it.

Sofasogreat · 23/01/2025 14:42

"Inviting her into our finances" - what does this actually mean?

I've raised our DCs to talk openly about finances, because the number of women on here who stumble into wildly unequal or exploitative relationships because they've never discussed money with anyone outside the relationship has made me really aware of wanting other, older people's eyes on things. And I've also found that American friends want to talk much more about money that UK friends, so I don't think there's that cultural barrier that you think.

If she was constantly insisting you spent money on one thing and not on another, that would be an issue, but from everything you've said it's just her having the knowledge about it that seems to bother you? Can you really have a think about why that is? Is it jealousy? Possessiveness? Worry about losing control? Fear of her criticism?

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