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The KKK is feeling pretty empowered

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Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 22/01/2025 17:23

This is what happens when a man like Donald Trump gets in power.

These are the people who feel empowered.

While MN celebrates the " only two genders ", people of colour in Kentucky are scared.

I've seen threads on here wishing the UK had Trump. Is this really what you want?

Is this really the type of people you want in power?

Those that voted for Trump over trans issues, what about shit like this? Or women dying from lack of abortion access? Or climate change? Or the casual revisiting of gay marriage rights?

According to GLAAD all resources referencing LGBTQ and HIV have been removed from the White House website. Gay, lesbian, no results come up in the search.

" Pages removed include WhiteHouse.gov’s equity report (no longer accessible), a fact sheet with information on expanding access to HIV prevention and treatment (no longer accessible), and information about LGBTQ Pride Month (no longer accessible). Agency page removals include Department of State’s LGBTQ rights (no longer accessible), and Department of Labor’s LGBTQ workers page (no longer accessible). "

glaad.org/releases/breaking-trump-administration-removes-lgbtq-and-hiv-resources-from-white-house-and-other-government-websites/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/22/kkk-immigrants-flyers-kentucky

This is scary shit. I don't get how any one envies?

KKK distributes flyers in Kentucky telling immigrants to ‘leave now’

Documents, including phone number and invitation to ‘join us’, distributed same day Trump took office

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/22/kkk-immigrants-flyers-kentucky

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anonymous98 · 23/01/2025 05:55

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 23/01/2025 05:52

Sorry but that's completely different.
I dont think the two are related. The lack of medical care in these instances in the uk are most certainly down to a short staffing problem, I don't know about the US admittedly but i don't see how cutting back on abortion especially pregnancy in the later stages can be related to natural miscarriages and ectopic pregnancies.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna178660

Please read this.

With abortion on 10 state ballots, reports of deadly consequences of bans emerge before election

Two Texas women died after they faced delays in getting miscarriage care because of the state’s abortion ban, ProPublica reported last week.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna178660

Appalonia · 23/01/2025 06:03

OP if you're Canadian, WHY are you coming on a UK site and lecturing British women about something that's got nothing to do with them? What's your agenda? Shouldn't you be trying to affect change in your own country?

Nettleteaser101 · 23/01/2025 06:04

I don't care about American politics I just care about the UK and shitty labour and all the crap that they have done since they have been voted in. Can anyone say what good Labour has done so far, except go on about that big financial hole that was left.
It's funny on MN if you don't hate Trump or Nigel Farage your thick. Why do all the haters think they are right.

CautiousLurker01 · 23/01/2025 06:05

You can be simultaneously pleased that the tide is beginning to turn on gender ideology and yet be worried about other aspects of the administration. Many people were simultaneous please the Tories were ousted and yet are deeply concerned about individual Labour policies.

Have personally spent 4 years watching feeling as conflicted about the democracts: I was tearful with joy when they got in 4 years ago, but have watched them completely fuck up their management of immigration, the economy, their utter embracing of gender ideology (and the harm this was doing to women, LGB and children given its deeply homophobic, misogynistic tenets), and fan the flames of social discontent as the US recovers from the pandemic. The rise of the right was facilitated and fuelled by their failings. Much of this situation is on the democrats.

And berating, mocking and deriding MN readers in threads like this isn’t the solution. Especially as we’re predominantly non US voters and have absolutely no responsibility or input.

RedHelenB · 23/01/2025 06:13

MellowTiger · 22/01/2025 20:24

Please say it how it is. You have an issue with transgender women accessing woman’s facilities, I don’t. Genuine trans women are at a much greater risk of being the victim rather than the perpetrator.
The issue is men pretending to be trans or dressing as women to access these spaces to commit crime - and this is impossible to legislate against.
This type of thinking will ultimately undo women’s rights because the agenda is being set by misogynists like DT.

I think most women have a problem with this. Men who are trans need to push for their fellow men to be kind and adapt loos, sports etc, not trample over women.

Choccyscofffy · 23/01/2025 06:14

Livelovebehappy · 22/01/2025 19:15

It was very sad that she lost her life, but she died of sepsis, and that could have happened had she had the abortion in her home state too, even if she had not had to drive to another state.

Why normalise having to drive to another state for abortion? How s that acceptable?

NeelyOHara · 23/01/2025 06:15

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I see you have not bothered responding to the data provided to you regarding the sexual assault pattens of transgender offenders.
The stats that you wrongly claimed were no higher than anyone else.

RedHelenB · 23/01/2025 06:22

MellowTiger · 22/01/2025 21:06

Genuinely stunned.
A man wearing a dress is not a trans woman, that’s a cross dresser or a transvestite.
I suggest you do research into transgender and gender reassignment. I hope this issue doesn’t affect any of your family.
How many sex crimes are committed by trans women? The research is sparse, one of the reasons for this is because they don’t tend to be sexual predators.
Do you suggest that lesbians start using their own facilities because they may be sexual predators as well?

No, because they are women using the women's facilities. It isn't a difficult concept. There have been rapes committed by transwomen, their victims having to use she/her pronouns in evidence. Oh but they aren't genuine trans I hear you argue, well maybe not which is why we should keep to the sex route for determination. I'm happy to see men look/ act more " feminine " but they are not women, they do not have the same experience as women. They can opt out of being a woman in Afghanistan, biological women can't.

falkandknife · 23/01/2025 06:22

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 23/01/2025 05:17

I will probably get flamed for this but abortion rights are being massively abused anyway.
I mean if a woman is raped or there is something wrong with the baby or mother that could result in serious injury or death than if course it should be available, but killing a fetus because you couldn't be bothered to take precautions (both parties) then it shouldn't be used as a form of contraception.
If you don't want to get pregnant, don't have sex or use something.
I for one think it's a great thing for America and the rest of the world to have Trump back in. The man is not wrong on so many things.

And let me guess, you’re religious….

I can’t stand the way some fanatics think they can decide what a woman should/shouldn’t do with their own body on the back their faith and beliefs.

To add, the vast majority of women don’t use abortions as contraception, utterly ridiculous to suggest they do.

Lightswitchup · 23/01/2025 06:26

Jumpingthruhoops · 22/01/2025 23:51

Exactly this. And this is what people are failing to realise; voters will glady take his ill-judged comments with a pinch of salt if it means they can feed their kids!

In their view, these facts 'trump' feelings.

The US economy has actually been doing very well though, certainly in comparison to the rest of us. I think he got in because of his position on the culture wars. Also they don’t seem to like voting for women.

Helleofabore · 23/01/2025 06:28

People forget that Trump understood that this issue was important to voters. Biden put through an EO on his first day that supported gender identity being prioritised above sex, even when sex matters. Of course Trump understood that there are votes in having a team around him that understood this issue and actually listened to feminists. And talked to feminists rather than ignoring them and dismissing them as having hateful beliefs.

As a politician who wants to wins votes in any democratic country at this time, it would be a significant misstep to ignore women’s voices on this.

myplace · 23/01/2025 06:58

It’s going to be interesting. We need to hope the babies don’t go out with the bath water.

Some changes were necessary- protecting children from gender ideology and unnecessary invasive medical treatment that doesn’t improve outcomes.
Possibly removing the grift and compulsory reeducation from EDI and returning the focus to actually addressing inequity and barriers.

The babies we need to keep are rights for same sex couples, racial equality. The first seems fairly ingrained now, I don’t think that will just stop. Racism is the bigger risk as it’s still such an issue in certain sectors. But EDI and critical race theory certainly weren’t helping.

He’s just such a nasty piece of work.

MellowTiger · 23/01/2025 07:06

RedHelenB · 23/01/2025 06:22

No, because they are women using the women's facilities. It isn't a difficult concept. There have been rapes committed by transwomen, their victims having to use she/her pronouns in evidence. Oh but they aren't genuine trans I hear you argue, well maybe not which is why we should keep to the sex route for determination. I'm happy to see men look/ act more " feminine " but they are not women, they do not have the same experience as women. They can opt out of being a woman in Afghanistan, biological women can't.

A ‘genuine’ trans woman is entitled to get their sex changed on their birth certificate - so using sex as a determining factor wouldn't work.
I think more and more we are seeing unisex toilets/cubicles and this would seem the fairest way to go. Caters to all abilities as well as whatever someone self determines as.

Youngheartsalittletogetherness · 23/01/2025 07:06

I wouldn't like to be a person of colour where these loons are raising their flags and remember these loons have guns.

TheKeatingFive · 23/01/2025 07:29

MellowTiger · 23/01/2025 07:06

A ‘genuine’ trans woman is entitled to get their sex changed on their birth certificate - so using sex as a determining factor wouldn't work.
I think more and more we are seeing unisex toilets/cubicles and this would seem the fairest way to go. Caters to all abilities as well as whatever someone self determines as.

What determines whether they are 'genuine'?

No. The answer is an end to falsifying sex on legal documents. What an extraordinary thing for anyone to support.

Helleofabore · 23/01/2025 07:33

Do you suggest that lesbians start using their own facilities because they may be sexual predators as well?

There is no evidence that lesbians are any more likely to be sexual predators, compared to the general female population. I have also not found that there is evidence that male people who are homosexual or bisexual are more likely to commit sex crimes than the general male population.

The use of lesbians as a comparative example to male people accessing female single sex spaces is a false comparison. Male people who have transgender identities are still male. They commit sex crimes at a rate that is not lower than the male general population as is shown by UK statistics and I have seen other country’s crime figures match this pattern.

Removing a male person’s penis and testes doesn’t change their male pubertal physical advantages and again there is little evidence to suggest that it changes the risk of them committing other sex crimes (when rape in the UK is associated with someone having a penis). Therefore, any claims that there are a group of male people who should be exempt from safeguarding considerations is not based on the evidence that we have got. Ie. The conviction statistics.

Homosexual and bisexual people would be illegitimately discriminated against if they were excluded from the single sex spaces for their sexed body type. It was never appropriate to exclude homosexual and bisexual people in this way. Male people (or any gender) being excluded from female single sex provisions based on their sexed bodies is legitimate discrimination.

Helleofabore · 23/01/2025 07:39

A ‘genuine’ trans woman is entitled to get their sex changed on their birth certificate

A legal fiction does not change a person’s sex in material reality. A ‘genuine’ male person with a gender identity remains a male person with a transgender identity despite a legal fiction on their birth certificate.

Do you think that male people who have a trangender identity will not respect the policy or law changes that would exclude them from female single sex spaces, including toilets? (If it was clearly signed on the door and publicly understood, of course) And if those who respect female people find other solutions for their needs, doesn’t that that only leave male people who cannot respect female people’s needs coming into female single sex spaces?

Sausagenbacon · 23/01/2025 07:43

have all the confederate flags been removed from buildings in the south?
That would be nice

LadyGreyson · 23/01/2025 07:49

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Helleofabore · 23/01/2025 07:50

I don’t think government buildings should have anything but a flag for the nation, state or area. I am not sure why removing other flags is controversial.

LadyGreyson · 23/01/2025 07:52

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Nameychangington · 23/01/2025 07:55

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What do you think those flags actually did, for 'minorities'? Putting up a flag is empty virtue signalling, it does fuck all to actually help people who are discriminated against. And alienates some of the people it supposedly supports - many LGB people do not feel represented by the 'progress' pride flag, as many black and ethnic minority people do not agree with BLM, CRT, taking the knee etc.

The fact that you think that my post 'tells us all we need to know about you and how little your opinion on politics should be regarded.' is a perfect example of how you get populists like Trump gaining power. People like you think that people who disagree with you are just wrong, or stupid, or both, and therefore those people's opinions should be ignored. That is how you get the likes of Trump, Farage, all the rest. Thinking you know better than the plebs and trying to impose your ivory tower luxury beliefs on the general populace is exactly how you let charismatic sociopaths into power, and then you're surprised when it happens.

You will never understand how someone like Trump came to win an election until you stop assuming that you are right about things and people who don't agree with you are stupid and must be forced to fall into line with your right opinions. How did Trump win the US election? At least partly because of people like you.

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You still don't get it. Those flags did not symbolise equality to everyone, to some they symbolised the top down imposition of luxury beliefs, things like that men can be lesbians. To some, they are a symbol of alienation, disenfranchisement and division. But you can't see that, because you only see the 'right' opinion to have about flags. Taking down flags doesn't dismantle people's rights, I don't have the right to have government buildings display allegiance to my pet cause, not does anyone. Again, you not getting that is partly how you get populists like Trump gaining power.

Do I think Trump is a feminist? Of course not. But the EO was clearly written by a feminist, look at the language used. Trump didn't write a single full stop in it. The fact that 'hating wokeness' hoovered up votes should teach you something, but it doesn't because you think you know better than those stupid people. And that is how we get where we are.

'This is not your victory and you should be ashamed trying to claim it is.' is just more hyperbole. Where did I claim it was my victory? The outcome of the US election is nothing to do with me, I didn't vote in it, I have no say on it.

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