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Things it took you far to long to work out (or admit)

243 replies

Slowontheup · 20/01/2025 14:04

I'm so annoyed with myself for drinking so much (socially and more or less within normal UK limits but still far too much)

it made me bloated and fat. I used to deny this could possibly be the case and went to every exercise class going plus starved myself. It was the booze.

specifically and most irritating - it made my arms fat. I considered going to Brazil for expensive and risky arm surgery ffs. My arms are thin now and I'm in my 40s

i must have spent a bloody fortune. Also did many risky and undignified things in my 20s and lost many many items in taxis (more expense incurred)

maybe it's part of growing up but wish I'd limited it to 2 years instead of best part of 20!

what did you do that you wish you'd cottoned on to a bit blinking sooner?!

OP posts:
mickandrorty · 22/01/2025 13:51

That Madagascar is actually a place not just a cartoon film

Jayne35 · 22/01/2025 13:54

Pookypook · 22/01/2025 12:47

Not disappear but reduce, apparently. I hadn’t heard of this either but a quick Google reveals it’s true 🙈

I am post menopause too, no difference for me, I must be in the 15%.

NordicwithTeen · 22/01/2025 14:07

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 22/01/2025 10:57

The issue about choosing the wrong degree has far more to do with the fact that it's so hard these days for people to know where the truly useful information is on degree choice and long term outcomes. Many parents, most probably, also don't know that. People also do more research finding a car than an expensive training for a long term career.

Also things change from one year to the next within universities. When I was a degree student my Uni required a higher # of UCAS points for the subject than the more well known Russell Group Uni in the same town. The course I applied for also had vocational time in the local hospital. When we got to 2nd year however this had all changed, course requirements had been slashed and they no longer offered the vocational opportunities because "other students had failed to turn up in years gone by". I would have been far better off going with my gut to the Russell Group Uni instead of miserably wondering how people who could barely write were getting 2:1.

SerafinasGoose · 22/01/2025 15:46

NordicwithTeen · 22/01/2025 14:07

Also things change from one year to the next within universities. When I was a degree student my Uni required a higher # of UCAS points for the subject than the more well known Russell Group Uni in the same town. The course I applied for also had vocational time in the local hospital. When we got to 2nd year however this had all changed, course requirements had been slashed and they no longer offered the vocational opportunities because "other students had failed to turn up in years gone by". I would have been far better off going with my gut to the Russell Group Uni instead of miserably wondering how people who could barely write were getting 2:1.

Having worked in one of these places for many years I know exactly where you're coming from. I can go off for a mere 15-week research sabbatical and when I return have to mug up on a whole new set of acronyms that have replaced the ones it took me two years to familiarise myself with in the first place. When I went off on maternity leave I left my department to come back to what felt like an entirely new department. It was unrecognisable! All the assessment regulations, procedures for creating new curricula, internal systems, marking procedures: you name it, they'd messed with it.

I'm sure these places employ little gremlins whose sole task it is to make our jobs hard!

And I'm with you on standards but make no mistake: those of the Russell Group are by no means better. Course requirements are less robust everywhere and so much of course content has been removed and replaced with shorter extracts and bulked out with study skills - ones which should already be prerequisites of higher education. Teaching students how to write, reference and construct arguments was not part of the deal of this job until very recently.

UKHE, it's safe to say, is not what it was.

Tryonemoretime · 22/01/2025 17:40

ClawedButler · 20/01/2025 16:33

Took me WAY too long to realise that I don't have to worry whether people will like me or not - they either will or they won't.

Also, I learned a marvellous phrase on MN: you don't have to set yourself on fire to keep someone else warm. Steered me right many a time, that.

Just love that saying!

Sylviasocks · 22/01/2025 18:23

Success isn’t equal to money or grade.

A night out is often more fun if you don’t stay until the bitter end. Recognise when you’ve “had your fun”.

Loud people can lack social skills as much as (more than?!) quieter people.

TheReaderofBooks · 22/01/2025 18:26

That I've had SAD and anxiety since I was a child but had no idea. It took being medicated for PPA to realise that's what it was! I never knew life could be like this and it took 35-ish years to know!

J3001 · 22/01/2025 18:41

Purplecatshopaholic · 20/01/2025 14:17

That my ex husband was a lying, cheating narc - wish I had worked that one out waaaay sooner.

Same lol took me 27 year

toxic44 · 22/01/2025 18:43

Your own mother can lie to you, to your detriment. Took me years to suss that.

StrikeForever · 22/01/2025 19:02

I’m 65 and only a few months ago, I came to the realisation that I don’t have to shave my legs to go swimming at a health club. It turns out, no one looks and if someone does and has a negative thought about it, well that;s just none of my business 💪

Single50something · 22/01/2025 19:05

MatildaTheCat · 20/01/2025 14:53

That when someone tells you their problems you aren’t required (or wanted usually) to provide solutions or advice. Just listening and hoping they work it out is enough.

Yea..I wish my mum knew this! 😊

venus7 · 22/01/2025 19:25

heyhopotato · 20/01/2025 16:33

I only found out recently that Jeremy Vine and Alexander Armstrong are two different people.

So why did you think they had different names?

StrikeForever · 22/01/2025 19:44

Hwi · 21/01/2025 08:03

Yes, because your granola is made of stuff grown on a special separate planet, where they don't use chemicals at all - you know, the same special 'organic' stuff that is grown downstream of the farms, using pesticides and other chemicals. And the rain that falls on that granola is also special, not the same rain that falls on anything else, so your home-made granola is absolutely fine!

So what do you suggest people eat that isn’t effected by those things?

HarrietsweetHarriet · 22/01/2025 19:45

That I'd suffered with anxiety for many years without realising what it was. A constant feeling like you're full of bees is the closest I can come to describing it. An internalised shaky feeling, or like an electrical current running through me.
One day I read an article where someone described her anxiety as feeling like a beehive, and then it just clicked.
I get occasional episodes of it now, but I'm better at controlling it and I usually know how to avoid the situations that cause it.

That and networking. Never realised in 40 decades of working that you're supposed to schmooze all the people you really can't stand in order to get on. I was never much good at hiding my distaste.

HarrietsweetHarriet · 22/01/2025 20:05

Hwi · 21/01/2025 08:35

So many things! My parents taught me that talking about money is vulgar, in any setting. This led to my being exploited because I never talked about money with employers. This led me to being ripped off by acquaintances - as it was 'vulgar to remind them about the £20 they borrowed for a taxi'.

Also, my parents told me I could do anything I want for a degree, which led me to doing financially useless degrees and only making more or less normal money in my mid 30s. So no, you don't support your children in their aspirations regardless. You talk to them and paint the future - bedsits, lack of money, having to be a private tutor to supplement your income from your dream job, etc. etc.

Absolutely! We need to talk about money especially salaries to ensure we're getting equal and fair pay. So many companies I've worked for had a ban on employees discussing salaries. We need to be transparent.

Incywincybit · 22/01/2025 20:12

That marriage isn't always the best option for a woman, even if theyre planning to have kids.
I feel like it's pushed a lot for 'security' but I'm seeing increasing numbers of couples where the woman still earns more even though they're also doing more of the childcare.

I saw a colleague earning over twice (probably 3x) what her husband did fund the majority of their life for years and then support him through a degree with unsociable placement hours / locations that meant the majority of the childcare fell to her. Then he cheated on her and left, taking half the value of the house that he'd contributed very little to.

My marriage is fine and we don't intend to divorce but it brought home how much I'd lose out financially if we did. I've always been the higher earner despite taking a career hit for kids. I actually love being married from an emotional point of view but I do feel guilty because my kids have less security - we'd likely have to sell the house to divide the funds if we divorced, when I could have bought it alone.

OneMintCrow · 22/01/2025 20:23

That the way I react to things and my anxiety/depression/ beating myself up internally is because I had undiagnosed adhd

BellaCiaoBellaCiao · 22/01/2025 21:25

Pookypook · 22/01/2025 12:47

Not disappear but reduce, apparently. I hadn’t heard of this either but a quick Google reveals it’s true 🙈

Well, it certainly does not apply to me and I am in various menopause support groups, and it’s NEVER been mentioned.
It was quite a sweeping statement.

Orangeandgold · 22/01/2025 21:39

Ask for help. Wish I reached out to people when I was younger - sometimes just for the minor things.

Sofrustratedwithmyself · 22/01/2025 22:34

PoltergeistsStartLowKey · 21/01/2025 06:45

That the joint pain, weird symptoms, constant tiredness and endless UTIs were because I was chock full of oxalates.

Once dumped and with an awareness of oxalate in food, my life has improved by magnitudes.

Do you mind me asking how you worked out that oxalates cause issues for you?

PoltergeistsStartLowKey · 22/01/2025 22:38

Sofrustratedwithmyself · 22/01/2025 22:34

Do you mind me asking how you worked out that oxalates cause issues for you?

Hi, If you scroll back to 10:32 yesterday (21st) I explained how I discovered this.

Good luck with it. It's a revelation

HughGrantsfurrysquirrel · 23/01/2025 02:11

murphys · 21/01/2025 05:30

Just recently found out that your inner lips (labia minora) appear in puberty, and then just disappear during menopause.

And it's true. I checked!

Say what?!! I'm almost 51, and well into menopause. I'm going to have to check that now🫨🫣....... as i'm sure a few of us on here will no doubt be doing. You've started something😅 !

JandamiHash · 23/01/2025 02:15

I was a HUGE WWF (wrestling) fan as a child. Went to see them at Sheffield Arena.

Was about 22 before I found out it wasn’t real wrestling Blush

JohnTheRevelator · 23/01/2025 05:06

InvisibilityCloakActivated · 22/01/2025 00:29

I wish I'd realised how good I looked in my teens and twenties. I was a size 10, thick hair, mostly clear skin, but I hated looking in the mirror, thought I was so spotty and fat and my hair was bird's nesty. I look back on pictures of my younger self and wish I had had the confidence that should've accompanied that person.

Now I'm mid 40s, size 20, saggy boobs, hair is greying and thinning, eye bags are expanding into wrinkles... but maybe in my 60s I will look back and wish I had been a more confident 40 Yr old too!

Same here! When I was 18,I thought I was hugely fat,when actually I was a size 10 and weighed 9 stone. I had gorgeous hair which I hated and seemed to spend an inordinate amount of time trying to make look nice,flawless skin which I thought was greasy and blemished etc etc. Now at the age of 61,when I look back on photos of myself then I think OMFG what the hell was I complaining about?!

SapphireSeptember · 23/01/2025 07:46

Hwi · 21/01/2025 12:06

You are so right! And also, HCPs talk such shite - 'it is normal for babies to have frequent colds and infections' - no, it it not, if you look after them properly and don't take them, scantily clothed, to browse the frozen or chilled sections for hours on end when they freeze, surrounded by coughing and sneezing individuals. Or, your tummy has been hurting for past so many years because you are anxious or suchlike. Aye, right.

Must be doing something right then. DS has had one cold in six months, and I had the same one and was more poorly than he was! He also didn't catch the cold I had in September.