AIBU to think TikTok should be banned in the UK too?

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The Sureme Court has upheld a decision to ban tiktok in the US. Am I unreasonable in thinking the UK should have done the same yesterday? Always puts in mind the opium wars, I'm sure some are more than happy (justifiably so even) to let Western youth utterly rot their minds

Why do you feel it's used to breed hate and intolerance?

I'm not depressed or anxious

How am I atomised?

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Are you saying you want no TV either?

Why with these beliefs do you post on mn

Because it uses human nature's worst traits against us. There's a wealth of data on this. The people who develop these apps don't let their kids within 1000 miles of them

The owner is not Singaporean.

TikTok is owned by ByteDance, a private global company founded by Chinese entrepreneurs. According to TikTok, about 60% of the parent company is owned by global institutional investors, 20% by the company's founders and 20% by employees. The app's CEO is Shou Zi Chew, a Singaporean businessman.

I suggest you do some reading about ByteDance. They are closely linked to the Chinese state.

Because this is the world I live in. I don't think the Amish would have me.

Posting on SM isn’t compulsory. Nor is having the TV you don’t want

Fine create your lifestyle as you want, but you can leave others to make their own choices

I think someone who declares that because they themselves feel fine therefore the wealth of data indicating that collectively your societies mental health and wellbeing, particularly young people is precipitously declining - is the very definition of atomised

I don't have a TV. How am I interfering in the choices of others?

Chinese youths are not exposed to what western youths are on Tik Tok. A friend in the military says it is very well known that Tik Tok is being used by the Chinese as a tool to deliberately corrupt western youths. To fuel anorexia, promote influencer life styles, feed rubbish into minds. I won’t be allowing my DD to have it when she is older.

Yep. There's been research into the spread of 'Ticks' tourrettes type behaviour through tiktok.

There was one person in the USA lobbying for the ban of Tiktok. His reason? The data that the Chinese could get and the USA wanted to own and control the app otherwise it would be banned. That is horrendously bullying tactics.

Mark Zuckerberg is so incensed that FB and Insta are no longer popular amongst the youngsters and can mo longer harvest his own data from them that he wanted TT too.

Another rich powerful white businessman deciding the actions of millions. Plenty of Americans earned their living from the app which hasn't been considered.

I'm like you, Mumsnet and WhatsApp. I don't like the rabbit hole on social media and the missing hours.

You have influencers on all platforms so good luck with stopping your child from having any social media when she's a teenager.

It’s like all the people who call x a cesspit- I follow cooks, bakers, comedians, dog, cat and horse lovers, gardening and interior design posters on TikTok and x. The only hateful stuff I’ve ever seen in when you venture into ‘trending’ on X. Maybe we honestly just have to find a way to get teens and people in general to tailor their feeds more to interests or something? Just keep an eye like we always said we would? But then that’s easier said than done alright! I don’t know! There’s a lot of dark and hateful stuff on mn too, and people with extreme/ polarised opinions. I just stay away from it

I rarely use it tbh but on the times I do I don't see any if this nasty stuff other posters talk about.

I have a handful of people I've chosen to follow and then the rest seem to be linked to stuff you see in the first counts and similar interests. I assume it's the algorithm at play.

The only social media site I ever see things I find offensive, violent or overly sexual is Twitter/X. I rarely go on my personal account these days. I do have to post on my school one and it's on there - not sure what's gone on to have that kind of content via the school's account!

Have you been on Rednote?

You know it's bollocks because they're not banning other apps owned by Chinese corporations.

"TikTok is owned by ByteDance, a private global company founded by Chinese entrepreneurs. According to TikTok, about 60% of the parent company is owned by global institutional investors, 20% by the company's founders and 20% by employees. The app's CEO is Shou Zi Chew, a Singaporean businessman."

60% owned by global investors, including household names such as Black Rock.

Are other apps with connections to China being banned?

No. Rednote is surely more alarming yet still freely available. What about other ByteDance apps?

OP I agree with you. Things are tough with many global economies, climate crisis, cost of living crisis, global political instability, increasing social polarisation politically, entrenched economic polarisation, political extremism, demographic disparities of all kinds, saturation with porn, fake news and social media eroding social solidarity and trust is actively making solutions to these social challenges harder to meet.

Think about the misinformation and those riots we had in the UK in the summer when people were ramming burning bins into doorways, trying to burn asylum seekers hotels down with the people inside. Horrifying.

Zuckerberg ending fact checking is terrifying and I wish that all the other SM platforms would go tbh. We’re not all able to handle the challenges of social media as a society, even if some people do have a great experience with it.

TikTok has stricter rules around misinformation than Meta and still use fact checking.

I know I started this banning business, but one of my new Advisors has asked...
"Will clocks still work if TikTok is banned?"

It's a bigly relevant question, and he should know a lot about time cos he was working in a '7 - Eleven' (and that's related to clocks and stuff) when I offered him the job.

I'm surprised that people think that TikTok being a security risk is some sort of fake news. TikTok is banned from government devices in the UK, also banned by the European Parliament and lots of other governments because of the access it has to other user data.

Good work Donald. I never want my data to fall into the hands of the Chinese. That's why I trust it with the least exploitative people I know, the American tech billionaires.

This is exactly it.somehow SHEIN and Temu are fine, as are Chinese made phones.

They just don’t want Americans to talk freely and spread negative aspects of America.

Anytime there’s a supposed threat of Americans grouping together to discuss ‘socialist’ information, it gets shut down with a quickness, sometimes violently. American is the country of MCarthyism. ‘Land of the Free’ my arse.