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Newfoundland dog in hospital - whatever next?

296 replies

Globules · 16/01/2025 22:40

Not that I know my breeds, but Newfoundland was the closest I could find in Google. Whatever it was, it was large and very furry and should not be in a hospital.

You can see it's not being used as a service dog by the way it's being led.

This "my dog has to go everywhere" stupid craze has to end now.

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Newfoundland dog in hospital - whatever next?
OP posts:
sleepwouldbenice · 17/01/2025 12:02

PlopSofa · 17/01/2025 11:28

Thank you being the voice of medical reason.

While they may be huge emotional support for some, others are phobic.

They are also carriers of salmonella and in some cases ESBL.

They should absolutely not be allowed in hospitals when we already have plenty of antibiotic-resistance, thank you very much.

Suspect people who are much better medically trained and work with patients, more than you have assessed this and concluded you are simply wrong

monkeysox · 17/01/2025 12:02

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 17/01/2025 12:01

If you don’t want to be affected by your allergies then you don’t touch it, simple.

Allergy to dogs which means that if you’re in the same room as them you’re going to drop dead is pretty much unheard of.

And assistance dogs are legally allowed in public places. So suck it up.

Would still be affected if didn't touch it.
Lack of awareness much.

Lou670 · 17/01/2025 12:04

@monkeysox You are taking it to the extreme here. How do you manage outside of a hospital then with dogs everywhere you turn? You avoid where they are, same in a hospital. All you have to do is voice your health concerns and how it is problematic to you and the dog will be taken away. They do ask all patients if they have any objections to a dog being in the area. As for simply passing it in a corridor as it is getting to where it should be, just give it a wide berth as it will only be passing within seconds. If your allergy is that severe then how do you even manage out and about in the public?

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 17/01/2025 12:05

monkeysox · 17/01/2025 11:59

Calling me a cunt for wanting to be able to breathe. Are you for real 😳

I didn’t call you a cunt. I said someone objecting to a therapy dog being allowed into hospital, to want to have it removed is a cunt.

And the hysteria around allergies/phobias/ is off the scale and over exaggerated.

Thousands of guide dogs are refused by taxi drivers every year on the basis that “I’m allergic” when actually the driver is just prejudiced. If a taxi driver has a genuine allergy they can get a medical exemption certificate.

A freedom of information act recently showed that there are just seven taxi drivers in London with a medical exemption, but a lot more use the allergy excuse to break the law and refuse guide dogs.

monkeysox · 17/01/2025 12:06

I couldn't manage more than half an hour where a dog had been. I'd become breathless.
It does restrict where I eat out.
Luckily work isn't an issue.
Hospital shouldn't have allergens.

Lou670 · 17/01/2025 12:12

@monkeysox Hospitals simply cannot cater for everyone with allergies. What about people that are allergic to perfumes? Do they therefore ban all patients and staff from wearing perfume? What about an allergy to plastic, do they remove all plastic? I am an allergy sufferer and it down to me to mange that and take necessary precautions where and when I am able to. I don't expect establishments and premises to make changes to accommodate me. Where does it all end then? Everything is removed in case of possible allergens? It is simply not feasible or possible. Not everyone can be pleased and it is not an ideal world.

PlopSofa · 17/01/2025 12:16

sleepwouldbenice · 17/01/2025 12:02

Suspect people who are much better medically trained and work with patients, more than you have assessed this and concluded you are simply wrong

ESBL is a multi drug resistant bacteria with sadly plenty of research behind it.

Youd do well to educate yourself on the likes of Pub Med before making spurious opinions about me and my knowledge.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7688229/

Its a large and growing problem in the medical community especially where UTIs are concerned.

Carriage of Extended-Spectrum-Beta-Lactamase- and AmpC Beta-Lactamase-Producing Escherichia coli Strains from Humans and Pets in the Same Households - PMC

Enterobacteriaceae that produce extended-spectrum beta-lactamases (ESBLs) and AmpC beta-lactamases (ACBLs) are important pathogens and can cause community-acquired illnesses, such as urinary tract infections (UTIs). Fecal carriage of these resistant .....

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7688229

monkeysox · 17/01/2025 12:16

Lou670 · 17/01/2025 12:12

@monkeysox Hospitals simply cannot cater for everyone with allergies. What about people that are allergic to perfumes? Do they therefore ban all patients and staff from wearing perfume? What about an allergy to plastic, do they remove all plastic? I am an allergy sufferer and it down to me to mange that and take necessary precautions where and when I am able to. I don't expect establishments and premises to make changes to accommodate me. Where does it all end then? Everything is removed in case of possible allergens? It is simply not feasible or possible. Not everyone can be pleased and it is not an ideal world.

Dogs aren't vital to hospitals.
And to previous posters. Yes I have reacted to a guide dog being in a room

Lou670 · 17/01/2025 12:24

@monkeysox Surely you can see that it's give and take and whilst dogs are not beneficial to you they are beneficial albeit not vital to others. It is down to you to take necessary precautions for your allergy. A lot of things are not vital in the hospitals but they are there.

IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · 17/01/2025 12:28

PiggyPigalle · 16/01/2025 23:00

Maybe it was something like this.
A man had surgery but was going to die in a short while. he wasn't even leaving to go on a ward.
He was asked for his final request, he told them he wanted to say goodbye to his dog.
Theatre staff got the large dog and brought it secretively up the back stairs to the patient.
I can vouch that story is 100% true.

Wonder if you are local to me. When my DF was on end of life care we discussed bringing his dog into see him and the staff said that they would often sneak a pet in up the fire stairs at the end of the ward particularly on a Sunday when there were less doctors around. We decided against it as said dog was large and bouncy but it was tempting.

Kbroughton · 17/01/2025 12:34

monkeysox · 17/01/2025 12:16

Dogs aren't vital to hospitals.
And to previous posters. Yes I have reacted to a guide dog being in a room

Have you been in a hospital where there was a dog and you had an allergic reaction to it?

MyGhastIsFlabbered · 17/01/2025 12:36

Uh oh PlopSofa the most antidote poster ever has arrived. It's almost like they look for dog threads to come and antagonise themselves over? Hmm

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/01/2025 12:37

monkeysox · 17/01/2025 11:49

That wouldn't make me not allergic to it.

It wouldn't make me not allergic either, I have dog and cat allergy and asthma, but as a therapy dog it still has a right to be there.

HungryBored · 17/01/2025 12:38

Agree. It’s gross, but a sign of the times and a lowering of standards everywhere.

monkeysox · 17/01/2025 12:41

Kbroughton · 17/01/2025 12:34

Have you been in a hospital where there was a dog and you had an allergic reaction to it?

No luckily

Kbroughton · 17/01/2025 12:43

monkeysox · 17/01/2025 12:41

No luckily

So you've never had any experience of, it you havent actually seen a dog running willy nilly around a hospital, but you think that PAT dogs should be banned just in case. Ok then.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/01/2025 12:43

MyGhastIsFlabbered · 17/01/2025 12:36

Uh oh PlopSofa the most antidote poster ever has arrived. It's almost like they look for dog threads to come and antagonise themselves over? Hmm

I noticed that name also and another familiar one.

Mikiamo · 17/01/2025 12:46

HungryBored · 17/01/2025 12:38

Agree. It’s gross, but a sign of the times and a lowering of standards everywhere.

Good to know that the presence of us disabled people who need assistance dogs, lower the standards.

Can you not hear how ableist that is? Would you tell a black person they were lowering standards by being there?

EmmaMaria · 17/01/2025 12:59

I am not sure which is more unbelievable. That someone brought their pet to the hospital and not one person stopped them. Or that a hospital is so empty at midday.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/01/2025 13:02

EmmaMaria · 17/01/2025 12:59

I am not sure which is more unbelievable. That someone brought their pet to the hospital and not one person stopped them. Or that a hospital is so empty at midday.

Read the thread ffs, it's not a pet!!! It's a therapy dog.

sleepwouldbenice · 17/01/2025 13:02

EmmaMaria · 17/01/2025 12:59

I am not sure which is more unbelievable. That someone brought their pet to the hospital and not one person stopped them. Or that a hospital is so empty at midday.

Someone needs to read the thread....

womanjustwanttohavefun · 17/01/2025 13:06

Hospice near me has a St. Bernard pets as therapy dog come to visit.
On a lead no jackets or signs.

Pets are very good for releasing feel good hormones- patients need that as it can help with healing.

pAT dogs will have been through training, be fully vaccinated and up to date with flea&worm treatments

Lou670 · 17/01/2025 13:12

@EmmaMaria it's a therapy dog, it may also be a pet and most probably is, but it was there in the capacity of being a therapy dog.

bozzabollix · 17/01/2025 13:27

To those with allergies, I currently have two Labradors resting against my legs and our cat to the side of me. I am a mobile allergen, because they shed hair on me, but yet so far I’ve never caused anyone to have any kind of reaction. The way some of you are speaking you couldn't be in the same room as me, a human being with pets. So even if you succeed in banishing dogs to their own homes and gardens, you’ve still got us human pollutants to contend with.

Personally I don’t know any people with dog allergies, I know people allergic to cats and they don’t react when in my company. Are you really likely to react when a pet is away from contact with you? If they pass you in a hospital?

To the people who have talked about their children being scared of dogs, work on it. They’re everywhere. Children are becoming less and less resilient and you can absolutely see why here. Don’t like something? Don’t push yourself to be brave, get rid of it, don’t work on your own reaction but try to eradicate the trigger.

Because dogs are everywhere not working on a phobia will severely curtail their enjoyment of life, and in terms of phobia it’s an easy one to work on, why not work on it?

I work with young people and anxiety levels are huge, I can honestly see why.

OOOtil2025 · 17/01/2025 13:44

monkeysox · 17/01/2025 12:06

I couldn't manage more than half an hour where a dog had been. I'd become breathless.
It does restrict where I eat out.
Luckily work isn't an issue.
Hospital shouldn't have allergens.

But I’ve seen flapjacks containing peanuts - aren’t they more common for anaphylactic shock in sufferers? I’ve seen - shock - toast being served in wards (to coeliacs and it was not gluten free!). I’ve seen people taking penicillin in hospitals when the person next on list for medicine is allergic… so you want ALL allergens banned from hospitals? How will that work exactly?

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