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Newfoundland dog in hospital - whatever next?

296 replies

Globules · 16/01/2025 22:40

Not that I know my breeds, but Newfoundland was the closest I could find in Google. Whatever it was, it was large and very furry and should not be in a hospital.

You can see it's not being used as a service dog by the way it's being led.

This "my dog has to go everywhere" stupid craze has to end now.

AIBU?

Newfoundland dog in hospital - whatever next?
OP posts:
monkeysox · 17/01/2025 13:47

Most things aren't an issue if airborne. Most hospitals are nut free.

OOOtil2025 · 17/01/2025 13:47

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/01/2025 12:43

I noticed that name also and another familiar one.

Aunt Sally? She’s changed name again for the ‘weed on jumper’ post and again today. Yknow - the one who wants all dogs culled and badgers roaming free about the town 😂

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 17/01/2025 13:49

monkeysox · 17/01/2025 13:47

Most things aren't an issue if airborne. Most hospitals are nut free.

No, they are not.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/01/2025 13:54

bozzabollix · 17/01/2025 13:27

To those with allergies, I currently have two Labradors resting against my legs and our cat to the side of me. I am a mobile allergen, because they shed hair on me, but yet so far I’ve never caused anyone to have any kind of reaction. The way some of you are speaking you couldn't be in the same room as me, a human being with pets. So even if you succeed in banishing dogs to their own homes and gardens, you’ve still got us human pollutants to contend with.

Personally I don’t know any people with dog allergies, I know people allergic to cats and they don’t react when in my company. Are you really likely to react when a pet is away from contact with you? If they pass you in a hospital?

To the people who have talked about their children being scared of dogs, work on it. They’re everywhere. Children are becoming less and less resilient and you can absolutely see why here. Don’t like something? Don’t push yourself to be brave, get rid of it, don’t work on your own reaction but try to eradicate the trigger.

Because dogs are everywhere not working on a phobia will severely curtail their enjoyment of life, and in terms of phobia it’s an easy one to work on, why not work on it?

I work with young people and anxiety levels are huge, I can honestly see why.

Edited

According to tests done by my GP, I have dog and cat allergy. I also have a dog and a cat.

I may be slightly more likely to react to your Labradors than to my own Pyrenean but probably only if we were in a confined space. I certainly wouldn't instantly keel over or struggle for breath if they walked past me in a fairly large, open environment such as a hospital.

I've been advised not to let the pets sleep on the bed and I also can't groom them during shedding season. My husband grooms the dog outside. My asthma is well controlled by daily use of inhalers.

I have far more problems with perfume; chronic migraine means that strong scents can make me very ill. It's easy enough to avoid dogs but trying to avoid smells is a nightmare. I can't go shopping any more or eat out or use public transport and at the GP's surgery etc. I have to wait outside. That's impossible to treat because it's neither allergy nor phobia.

One of the people posting here has a child with a very severe dog phobia that desperately needs treatment. I suspect that in a lot of similar cases, the treatment needs to start with the parents not the child.

Lou670 · 17/01/2025 13:56

@monkeysox So what you are saying is that dogs where there hair/fur/skin particles which are airborne are the problem? So things such as peanuts, penicillin that are not airborne are not a problem? So you only encounter this problem in a hospital, where there may be a therapy dog in attendance? So how do you not meet up with any person or come in to contact with any person that has a dog? You will be passing a person in the street with dog hair on them, no different to passing a therapy dog in a hospital.

PlopSofa · 17/01/2025 13:56

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/01/2025 12:43

I noticed that name also and another familiar one.

I am not anti dog at all.

Thats not fair.

I said I appreciate therapy dogs and have no problem with them being hospitals.

Look at my previous post to you.

I do object to a large dog unattended in a hospital because they can carry salmonella and ESBL.

The poster said a trolley with a patient on it had to stop because the dog was in the way.

You both know a dog should not be wondering around a hospital like this.

But I’m called anti-dog.

Cece92 · 17/01/2025 13:56

ClementsR2024 · 16/01/2025 22:53

It could be coming in to say good-bye to its owner. I have witnessed this - the owner was in for an op but the dog was being PTS as it was not well so was allowed in so the owner could say good-bye.

🥺🥺🥺🥺

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/01/2025 13:57

OOOtil2025 · 17/01/2025 13:47

Aunt Sally? She’s changed name again for the ‘weed on jumper’ post and again today. Yknow - the one who wants all dogs culled and badgers roaming free about the town 😂

Oh that's interesting about wee on jumper, but no, I meant the vegan one that's very vocal on the current anti-pets thread...
Same ones over and over.

monkeysox · 17/01/2025 13:59

Lou670 · 17/01/2025 13:56

@monkeysox So what you are saying is that dogs where there hair/fur/skin particles which are airborne are the problem? So things such as peanuts, penicillin that are not airborne are not a problem? So you only encounter this problem in a hospital, where there may be a therapy dog in attendance? So how do you not meet up with any person or come in to contact with any person that has a dog? You will be passing a person in the street with dog hair on them, no different to passing a therapy dog in a hospital.

I am saying there is no need for it to be in hospital.
I avoid where I can.

Lou670 · 17/01/2025 14:00

@PlopSofa You are going on the facts as they were posted on here. I find it unbelievable that a dog would be wandering around any hospital with no handler with it. It would not happen at all. I am sure if she had bothered to use a wide angle lense then she could have got the handler in the frame too, alas that would not have made a good story.

Lou670 · 17/01/2025 14:02

@monkeysox There is clearly a need for it to be in the hospital though. May not be a need of yours but a need for it to be there for others. You are not the only patient in the hospital.

ErrolTheDragon · 17/01/2025 14:07

I do object to a large dog unattended in a hospital because they can carry salmonella and ESBL.

The poster said a trolley with a patient on it had to stop because the dog was in the way.

The lead is clearly visible in the photo, it was not 'unattended'.Confused
Though the owner/handler probably should have had it on a short leash.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/01/2025 14:10

PlopSofa · 17/01/2025 13:56

I am not anti dog at all.

Thats not fair.

I said I appreciate therapy dogs and have no problem with them being hospitals.

Look at my previous post to you.

I do object to a large dog unattended in a hospital because they can carry salmonella and ESBL.

The poster said a trolley with a patient on it had to stop because the dog was in the way.

You both know a dog should not be wondering around a hospital like this.

But I’m called anti-dog.

Have you actually read the full thread? Dd you see that this particular female Newfoundland dog is a known PaT dog? Have a look at the bottom of page 5 on this thread. A poster called friendschild.

I've shown you compassion before about your child's dog phobia, but your own lack of compassion and comprehension on this thread is astounding.

You most definitely are anti-dog.

Kbroughton · 17/01/2025 14:40

PlopSofa · 17/01/2025 13:56

I am not anti dog at all.

Thats not fair.

I said I appreciate therapy dogs and have no problem with them being hospitals.

Look at my previous post to you.

I do object to a large dog unattended in a hospital because they can carry salmonella and ESBL.

The poster said a trolley with a patient on it had to stop because the dog was in the way.

You both know a dog should not be wondering around a hospital like this.

But I’m called anti-dog.

It wasn't unattended. It's quite clearly on a lead. Everyone would agree that there should not be unattended dogs in a hospital. But there isn't! I have never, ever seen a dog roaming around by itself in a hospital. Have you?

MumblesParty · 17/01/2025 14:43

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/01/2025 11:32

I'm very surprised that as a GP you would not be aware of PaT dogs, it is hardly a new thing...🤔Seems very odd that a medical professional would not know this... PaT dogs have been visiting hospitals and care homes for years.

@CoubousAndTourmalet I’m a GP, I haven’t worked in a hospital since 1997. And I’ve never seen a dog in a care home, despite going to care homes most weeks.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/01/2025 14:48

ErrolTheDragon · 17/01/2025 14:07

I do object to a large dog unattended in a hospital because they can carry salmonella and ESBL.

The poster said a trolley with a patient on it had to stop because the dog was in the way.

The lead is clearly visible in the photo, it was not 'unattended'.Confused
Though the owner/handler probably should have had it on a short leash.

I have a dog bigger than this and sometimes a long lead is easier. A short lead restricts you to having the dog alongside all the time whereas a long lead can always be looped shorter if necessary. In this situation, if you needed to let a trolley pass for example, longer lead can make it easier with a well behaved calm dog of this type and size.

Lou670 · 17/01/2025 14:57

@MumblesParty Ok so in the times you have visited care homes you have never seen a PAT dog in attendance there. That is not to say it does not happen, just not coincided with your visits. The poster was questioning your apparent lack of awareness of PAT dogs being used, not whether or not you have seen one.

HungryBored · 17/01/2025 14:59

Mikiamo · 17/01/2025 12:46

Good to know that the presence of us disabled people who need assistance dogs, lower the standards.

Can you not hear how ableist that is? Would you tell a black person they were lowering standards by being there?

I am embarrassed for you. Of course therapy dogs are ok. And as for using black people as an analogy for dogs, I have no words.

HungryBored · 17/01/2025 15:01

Mikiamo · 17/01/2025 10:32

I'd much rather have canine friends than human ones. Dogs are pure and humans are vile.

What a way to talk about yourself. Do you really think you are vile? You must have some redeeming features surely? Nice hair maybe?

MyGhastIsFlabbered · 17/01/2025 15:04

@PlopSofa I recognise your name from other dog threads...you've been pissing over happy/funny dog threads because your son is scared of dogs.

I don't see how you can 'appreciate' therapy dogs as you hadn't even heard of them on the last thread I saw you on.

You are definitely anti-dog, and anti-dog owners too.

MyGhastIsFlabbered · 17/01/2025 15:15

I'm also intrigued how dogs carry salmonella and ESBR (?) so shouldn't be anywhere near hospitals, yet service/therapy dogs are apparently ok so somehow must be immune from these infections, nor carriers of them.

I was in hospital for something unrelated and picked up pneumonia. It certainly wasn't from a dog. And I'm sure entry of animals is much more strictly controlled on the higher dependency wards anyway.

Incidentally I often see at the hospital I work at a falconer with their bird of prey walking around the hospital (inside). It's used to scare of seagulls apparently. Should that be banned too?

MumblesParty · 17/01/2025 15:30

Lou670 · 17/01/2025 14:57

@MumblesParty Ok so in the times you have visited care homes you have never seen a PAT dog in attendance there. That is not to say it does not happen, just not coincided with your visits. The poster was questioning your apparent lack of awareness of PAT dogs being used, not whether or not you have seen one.

@Lou670 yeah that poster being a smart-arse, trying to imply I didn’t know what I was talking about. My post was basically saying that in a world that seems to focus excessively on H&S, I found it shocking that dogs were allowed in hospitals. I was expressing an opinion. I never said it didn’t happen or that I wasn’t aware of it. Clearly @CoubousAndTourmalet doesn't like people to have opinions. Strange really, but MN is full of strange people!

EmmaMaria · 17/01/2025 15:45

CoubousAndTourmalet · 17/01/2025 13:02

Read the thread ffs, it's not a pet!!! It's a therapy dog.

I did read the thread FFS. It was a joke.

Clearly no sense of humour.

Signed a poster who has a service dog that is also a registered therapy dog and the dog frequently goes in hospitals. In fact he'll be in one next week.

bozzabollix · 17/01/2025 15:58

MumblesParty · 17/01/2025 14:43

@CoubousAndTourmalet I’m a GP, I haven’t worked in a hospital since 1997. And I’ve never seen a dog in a care home, despite going to care homes most weeks.

I’m not sure I believe that. My husband allows pets into his ITU ward where they can to say goodbyes to patients, given the nature of care homes it must be the same.

EmmaMaria · 17/01/2025 16:00

bozzabollix · 17/01/2025 15:58

I’m not sure I believe that. My husband allows pets into his ITU ward where they can to say goodbyes to patients, given the nature of care homes it must be the same.

We visit a local care home weekly. He loves it because they have the best treats and are sneaky at slipping him "extras".