That people who vape/smoke in public are inconsiderate?

[thecoconutcat]

People are entitled to damage their own bodies, but I'm fed up of having vape/cigarette smoke blown in my face when out in public. This is especially the case as a pregnant woman, but also for people with babies, underlying health problems etc? Tbh even if you're perfectly healthy I don't think it's great to have someone's second hand smoke forced into your lungs.

Smoke, I agree.
Vape, no problem.

I don’t think vaping and smoking have the same impact in a public space. One is actual smoke, the other is just water vapour.

so for that reason, I believe you are not being very rational and rather u

Vaping is nothing like as invasive to others as cigarette smoking. A sickly sweet smell for a few seconds that quickly dissipates.

That's how I feel. Cigarette smoke is the vilest thing ever to me and I have to hold my breath when I walk past someone smoking, but with vaping, I think it smells quite nice and I try to guess the flavour 😊

Do you feel the same about exhaust fumes from buses, cars and taxis? Unless you live in a remote place in the countryside you are going to be breathing in a large number of toxic fumes into your lungs every day. It's not pleasant to walk behind a smoker, but neither are all the other toxins we breathe in on a daily basis, which are far more damaging than a few seconds of second hand smoke. You can move out of the way of that, all of the other pollution you can't.

Hate it when I’m at traffic lights and some utter gaper exhales a cloud of vape from their adult steam dummy out their car window, and my air conditioning sucks it in and now I’m hotboxing their second hand propylene glycol / chinese industrial waste vapours. Weak people needing their little sucky vape. Weak.

Agree with some pp's...massive difference between smoke and vape.

I'd rather sit indoors with 5 people vaping nearby than have to share a bus shelter with one person smoking.

Smoke clings like nothing else - even standing outside, if I stand near a smoker for a few minutes then I can smell it in my hair. Nothing like that kind of problem with vapes.

I agree. I think it's so rude. I wouldn't walk around spraying perfume for people to breathe in all day.

Charming!

You sound disproportionately angry

I didn't used to mind people vaping until someone pointed out to me if you can smell it you're breathing what's just been in someone elses lungs!

I realise we must be breathing other peoples exhalation all the time when around people but now smelling vape makes me think of it! 😂

I'm asthmatic. Smoking makes me cough. The horrible smell from vapes irritates my throat. There are chemicals in vapes including nicotine which make the smell and taste, its not just water.

"What secondhand vaping can do
Secondhand emissions from e-cigarettes are not harmless. The vapor emitted when someone exhales contains a variety of dangerous substances. "

Vapes contain chemicals. I can taste and smell second hand vape. I don't taste steam from a kettle which is pure water.

It's a myth that secondhand emissions from e-cigarettes are harmless. Many people think the secondhand vapor is just water, but this couldn't be farther from the truth.

HangryLikeTheHulk · Today 08:18

Hate it when I’m at traffic lights and some utter gaper exhales a cloud of vape from their adult steam dummy out their car window, and my air conditioning sucks it in and now I’m hotboxing their second hand propylene glycol / chinese industrial waste vapours. Weak people needing their little sucky vape. Weak.

Hate it when cars are just sat there pumping out toxic gases because the owner is too weak/lazy to walk. Weak people needing their little sucky cars. Weak

I think anyone who smokes full stop anywhere in this day and age is an absolute Moron, literally and knowingly, smoking sticks of cancer. Baffling. And vaping not much better either.

Op, you sound very entitied 😂 you don’t own the outside. Where are people supposed to vape then? They can’t do it indoors.

Just be grateful smoking has massively reduced. I’d rattler walk through a cloud of scented vapour than tar laden cigarette smoke

To clarify, I'm not saying people shouldn't do this outside at all, just not outside doors of public spaces where you have no choice but to walk through, or if you're standing in a queue etc.

We all have to share the outside space and I wish people were more considerate.

I agree, vapers can be pretty obnoxious with their huge clouds of smoke that you have to walk through. Even worse when they're with small children or pushing prams, which I see frequently. Actual smokers less so, probably because it's less socially acceptable now.
I'll have a vape on a night out, but I'm not a dickhead with it. People just need to be considerate.

I agree. Obviously exhaust emissions need to be reduced but I don't see the equivalence. Some of that is for necessary journeys, delivery, maintenance, public transport vehicles, work etc. No smoking or vaping is necessary.

I would love smoking to be phased out completely and the countries who grow tobacco to switch to a sustainable food crop. Preferably not all for the use of the West.

There are no benefits to smoking at all (apart from economic for those who benefit). The perceived benefits (relaxation and socialisation) come of dependency.

I also agree on vaping.I don't think it's harmless or without risk. If nothing else, I would like the huge steam clouds and sickly scents stopped. Theyre disgusting to be around and intriguing to children. Plain e cigarettes only. Nothing colourful, flavoured or noticeable.

YANBU

I can't stand the vile smells from vapes. Round here it's all cannabis flavour or blue raspberry and yes, people puff a massive wall of it in your face as you walk past. Just huge clouds of vapey shit everywhere.

Generally, I actually find smokers to be more considerate than vapers. They at least try not to aim it at you and are more discreet.

I don't want any fumes in my face, thanks, if I wanted such a disgusting habit I would have taken it up myself!

Yes, both are so disgusting.

I think 'people in general' in busy public spaces can be rude and inconsiderate without even realising it, not being aware of where they are exhaling their excess smoke/vape or smoking vaping at entrance points is just one example.

But it's a busy world, with many people just getting on with their lives, wrapped up in their own little world. Most are generally harmless but just a bit unaware of what is going on around them and how it can irritate others around them.

We're all guilty of this in some way shape or form, you save your energy for the battles that matter and try not to let what you can't change bother you too much.

Like I said it's more just being unaware rather than people doing it deliberately to annoy you.

Me too - always baffles me on mumsnet that so many people aren't against it and defend smokers but reqlly in this day and age there is absolutely no good reason to smoke or vape. Rank habit - hate it with a passion.

I want to add people breathing onto the list, specifically people who currently have an illness or are still contagious from an illness. Going outside and breathing their germs on everyone and everything.