To think that if you have noisy unnecessary building works done, you lose the right to object to noise made by your neighbours?

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Inspired by another thread. AIBU to think that if you subject your neighbours to months of disruption and misery in their own homes so that you can have a bigger kitchen or loft conversion (and particularly if you move elsewhere so you're not disturbed), then it's open season on you as far as noise is concerned from then on? You lose your right to object to your neighbours' babies crying, kids screaming, pool parties, garden raves, essentially any lawful use of their property from then onwards. And if you try to complain to them, they're fully justified in laughing incredulously, shutting the door in your face and inviting 20 5 year olds round to go wild in the paddling pool.

I know I'm not BU on this but interested to know what others think.

We had a loft conversion done and our neighbour is now doing the same. She was generally polite and tolerant during our works (even though they were very noisy) and only complained when I considered that she had valid cause for complaint. We will be taking the same approach for her loft conversion. Our - lawful - building works would not however give our neighbours a right to be totally inconsiderate generally though, don't be ridiculous.

At least I'm not descending to personal insults, unlike some. Not a great way to make an argument.

Do your improvements if you like but then keep your mouth shut about Arabella's terrible violin playing and the live band in the garden for her dad's 50th. They might be annoying, but they come nowhere near the inconvenience of having the ceiling crack due to the vibrations from your building work. That's what I'm suggesting.

Violin playing at a reasonable time - fine
A one off special party - fine

Purposefully making noise at unreasonable times - not fine.

I bet you'd bottle it and come and do another Mumsnet thread about your 'unreasonable' neighbors.

That would be the "reasonable" thing to do though, wouldn't it 😂? Do nothing IRL and vent online.

I think there's a big difference between having work done on your home, presumably in the middle of the day, and blaring music in the middle of the night.

One is reasonable. The other is generally unreasonable. Of course anyone complaining about a crying baby is a twat

This is so odd. If your chidl is noisy during the day, then just like building works, no, people dont' really have a right to complain. If you're letting them run screaming like banshees through the garden at 10:30 at night.... then they should complain. Similarly, if htey're banging and crashing around at 6 am with their building work, complain.

I've got some neighbours like yours; make out they're salt of the earth, hold the hood together, help anybody, etc whilst completely taking the piss and treating anyone who might speak up with verbiage.

Very recently I did dare to make a bit of DIY noise (out of regular hours) but thought if it bothered anyone they'd let me know. Apparently not - I was presented with faces like a slapped arse until I asked them if they were ok as they looked so unhappy and sad.

The super-goof Dad blurted out his chagrin, mostly ridiculous, and I laughed. I'm pleased to know that my 62year old light hammering sounds like a sledgehammer or pneumatic drill in a property 2 doors away, through heavy stone walls.

They still look a bit sad, not because of me, but life I think.

Who’s insulted you on this thread? We’re all calling you very, very unreasonable, but that’s not an insult. It’s an answer to the thread, which sits within Am I Being Unreasonable? And the answer is yes, you are. Very.

So you started this thread because…? If you don’t care and you know YANBU then why are you in such a froth? You should relax in the knowledge you’re perfectly justified, right?

You’re making yourself look like a twat 🤷‍♀️

Everyone has the right to voice the fact they feel like their quiet enjoyment of their home is being impacted. You'd think there's be a bit more leeway if they did plenty of work themselves recently. But some people have extremely short memories. Either way, if it's daytime building noise there's not much that can be done anyway.

I find some of these views very odd. It's reasonable to literally shake your neighbours up in their house, drill into their walls and make parts of their plasterwork fall down. But heaven forbid their child runs round excitedly yelling in their own home at 8pm in the evening 😂.

I don't really care.

I find some of these views very odd. It's reasonable to literally shake your neighbours up in their house, drill into their walls and make parts of their plasterwork fall down..

You didn't ask this ......

This is what happens when people do building work in attached houses.

Whenever I hear kids making loads of noise, I find peace with knowing how much it irks some of my more difficult neighbours; kids grow up, whilst most adults don't.

Every so often I play some loud eclectic music (ranging from punk to classical) just to pin my tail on the donkey.

But they have to. Houses don't just last forever without having work done on them.

This is what happens when people do building work in attached houses.

Not always. The drilling/shaking probably can't be helped but they should repair any damage they cause.
My previous house was a terraced house and my neighbour did significant renovations but it didn't damage our property at all.

Well yes and no. If you've had tons of renovation noise for months then you can't complain about neighbour bbq-ing with few friends at 7pm. But just because you had renovations done does not mean you will have to tolerate 3am raves every weekend or the motorcycle revving every single morning at 6am for years and years.

Normal kid noise is fine.

I hear you on the music though. I do the same if the kid next door is causing problems (not normal kid noise). Do I want to listen to them or my music? Music, of course, so I cover them over.

Their kid will grow up but my love of music is forever...

The drilling/shaking probably can't be helped

Sadly, as it turns out, neither can the racket from Arabella's violin-playing.

Tbf I'm commenting on this thread from both sides.

I've got the loft conversation on the left, and also the wankers on the right with little Tarquinius who is learning the recorder or ocarinas or something.

I'm a wfh childfree person and I hate you all equally 😂 and if you ask me why I'm on MN it's via the Litter Tray.

Violin practice is perfectly normal and okay.

😂. You poor sod! I'm sure a court would take a lenient view if you strangled Tarquinius's parents and took a sledgehammer to the loft conversion. Extreme provocation and all that.

@NimmyB - Tarquinias😂