To think that if you have noisy unnecessary building works done, you lose the right to object to noise made by your neighbours?

[CrispieCake]

Inspired by another thread. AIBU to think that if you subject your neighbours to months of disruption and misery in their own homes so that you can have a bigger kitchen or loft conversion (and particularly if you move elsewhere so you're not disturbed), then it's open season on you as far as noise is concerned from then on? You lose your right to object to your neighbours' babies crying, kids screaming, pool parties, garden raves, essentially any lawful use of their property from then onwards. And if you try to complain to them, they're fully justified in laughing incredulously, shutting the door in your face and inviting 20 5 year olds round to go wild in the paddling pool.

I know I'm not BU on this but interested to know what others think.

Making home improvements" doesn't give you a free pass to subject others to hell on earth and expect no comeback.

You sound really petty.

OP you're making yourself sound like a prick.

Renovations- as annoying as they can be- are not in the same vein as allowing noise for the sake of it. That's cunt behaviour.

And I care because...?

I'm perfectly ok with having a different opinion from the majority on this one.

If you've disrupted your neighbours' lives for months so YOU can have a nicer house, then you zip it when little Jonny next door is practising the drums at 10am on a Saturday morning imo.

Are you jealous of their home improvements?

No.

Sounds like jealousy to me, sour grapes that they have a bigger and better house than you.

No, that’s quite ridiculous.

All houses need upkeep at some point. I bought a house in very bad condition as that was all I could afford. There came a point where I had to do renovations or the house would have been uninhabitable.

@CrispieCake how are people supposed to renovate a house or do any home improvements without making noise?

I'd love to know because I'm in the middle of a full house renovation myself and I'd love to be living in a quiet building site 😂

So you'd subject yourself to even more noise, at a louder volume than they would experience it, just to cause them some discomfort. Or you could try to get a grip and enjoy your life.

You don’t DO any home improvements, they are ‘unneccesary’…

Just keep your home as it is, needing renovated so your neighbours don’t get jealous that you have a nicer house than them and you won’t have all night raves next door either.

Only when I wasn't in the house, obviously!

@OnlyMabelInTheBuilding ah, so I was supposed to live

with a 45yr old bathroom, kitchen and heating system forever! Who knew 🤷🏼‍♀️😂

They can expand all they like but if they inflict noise on their neighbours, they don't get to object to the neighbours' noise.

what are they supposed to do - expand by way of installing a bouncy castle in their back garden?

Home improvements are temporary and one day you may need to do them yourself. I'd suck that one up.

Other kinds of unnecessary noise like loud music or endless basketball or some other hobby? Then the neighbours can suck up whatever noise their own neighbours want to make and serves them right.

Maybe pay for your neighbours to rent an Airbnb during the worst of the noise so they're not subjected to it? Maybe people should start factoring this into the cost of their house improvements.

The worst of my ire is reserved for people who move out to escape the noise and disruption but leave their neighbours to it.

No. They are two completely unrelated events.

Sometimes making more noise can improve the quality of your own life though. I have a noisy hobby that I never did at home out of consideration for the neighbours. They started their own noisy hobby, so I decided I was free to do mine too. No, they don't like it, but they won't tone theirs down so why should I? I'm actually quite grateful to them for making it possible for me to feel I can do it.

They really aren't. If my family's Saturday morning has been disrupted by building works for ages, I'm really not going to stop my DC doing a hobby because I'm worried about disrupting the neighbours.

Exactly. It would improve most parents' quality of life to know that they didn't have to police their kids' noise for worry of upsetting their neighbour. One less thing to worry about.

Maybe pay for your neighbours to rent an Airbnb during the worst of the noise so they're not subjected to it? Maybe people should start factoring this into the cost of their house improvements.

Erm this is ridiculous. Most people don't want to move out of the comfort of their own home.

The worst of my ire is reserved for people who move out to escape the noise and disruption but leave their neighbours to it.

Sometimes people move out because the house isn't habitable or that by moving out it means the will is completed quicker.

We're at the end of a house renovation and we lived elsewhere for 2 months because the house wasn't habitable!! There was no bathroom or kitchen and we have a child.

Depends whether you're talking about reasonable noise or spite.

2 years of reasonable hours building noise doesn't mean someone has no right to be annoyed with 10 years worth of shouting/running upstairs/screaming/footballs smacking into a wall.

Depends what you think reasonable building noise vs reasonable family noise is.

My bathroom redo took 3 months. I'd be pissed off if my neighbour with the 12 years of loud barking dogs and basketball playing kids complained to me.

I mean, I stand by what I said before about them being different... but I don't think 10am in a Saturday is actually unreasonable.

Depends whether it's a limited time period of reasonable building noise vs many years of very loud family noise.

At least the neighbours would have the choice.

I hope you enjoyed the peace and quiet 😉. Maybe your neighbours would have as well.

My neighbours seem to have toned it down a bit now they have realised they're going to get the same treatment back.