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accused a fake grooming scandal

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Isxmasoveryet · 08/01/2025 13:06

after watching this on ch 4 this silly silly girl got away with lying about such a crime and ruined peoples lives completely all over a social media post where is the justice for her genuine victims those poor men went through hell all over a lie n a social media post they rallied n did GoFundMe over a lie but cant really when the truth comes out

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BookyGilly · 09/01/2025 22:47

Please tell me your belief in The Guardian is a parody? I don't know who you are or where you live but if you don't understand, despite all the evidence from the 1970's onwards that probably over 250,000 children have been raped, tortured and murdered in the name of diversity. If you have children (even boys as the Irish mothers are now worried about). Please don't dismiss these atrocities because you haven't been affected by them yet. It's only a matter of time before you will have to protect not only your daughters but also your sons (as Irish mothers are worried about). Just be brave enough to say that some cultures are better than others. Would you rather be called racist than protecting your own children?

PandoraSox · 10/01/2025 10:18

BookyGilly · 09/01/2025 22:47

Please tell me your belief in The Guardian is a parody? I don't know who you are or where you live but if you don't understand, despite all the evidence from the 1970's onwards that probably over 250,000 children have been raped, tortured and murdered in the name of diversity. If you have children (even boys as the Irish mothers are now worried about). Please don't dismiss these atrocities because you haven't been affected by them yet. It's only a matter of time before you will have to protect not only your daughters but also your sons (as Irish mothers are worried about). Just be brave enough to say that some cultures are better than others. Would you rather be called racist than protecting your own children?

@BookyGilly I am so sorry for what your friend has been through and how it has affected you. I don't think anyone on this thread is denying that the grooming gangs are horrific and we must do much more to protect our vulnerable young people.

But most Muslim people are decent ordinary people and it is not right to blame them collectively for these horrors.

I don't want to do whataboutery on this thread, but data is now beginning to be collected on grooming gangs. It is still early days so no firm conclusions can be drawn yet, but the data is clearly showing that grooming gangs are from all sorts of cultures.

Eta: this is a very good article from the FT. There is a link there to the data that has been collected so far.

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BookyGilly · 10/01/2025 11:49

@PandoraSox I understand paedophiles are from all backgrounds. It's the nature of these crimes that is specific to Muslims. Here in the UK it's predominantly Pakistani. In France it's predominantly north Africans. In the UK, around one third of those convicted are called Mohammed. They follow a religion that sees infidel women as trash. Obviously not all Muslims are part of these gangs but there are sufficient numbers for it to be an open secret. In Telford, which has a relatively small Muslim population, around 30+% of men were involved. Throughout the West, from Sweden, to Ireland to Belgium, the one thing that the gangs share is their Islamic faith. Having read the Koran, it is something that should be openly discussed and challenged. If you go to YouTube search for The Rape of Britain. It's a series of documentaries about the rape gangs in Telford. Btw, Oldham Council (who are part of the problem) said they would reach out to Telford Council (who were also part of the problem) in order set up a local investigation. But Telford's inquiry was a cover up. The victims were told that any information given that named someone, their details would be given to the perpetrators.
Watch the documentaries for a more comprehensive understanding of how they occur in just one town.

PandoraSox · 10/01/2025 12:07

With all due respect @BookyGilly The Rape of Britain is made by Urban Scoop, who seem very shadowy, and "stars" Yaxley-Lennon.

BookyGilly · 10/01/2025 12:51

@PandoraSox He's probably the most knowledgeable person in Britain on this subject. Don't let your prejudice about the messenger stop you from hearing the message. Those documentaries give first hand accounts from victims. Tommy is a working class Douglas Murray. He became involved when his cousin was groomed and was found running practically naked down a street by local prostitutes. Andrew Norfolk, who is most often credited with exposing the gangs has said himself, he sat on the story for years because he feared it would cause bad race relations. It was only after the EDL was formed from the United People of Luton, that Norfolk went ahead and wrote so he could spin the narrative. Watch Tommy's Oxford Union speech on YouTube to see where it all started. Also, Sammy Woodhouse, a former victim and campaigner, also works for Urban Scoop. Is she on the approved viewing list?

PandoraSox · 10/01/2025 13:05

I am sorry @BookyGilly but we are going to have to agree to disagree. Yaxley-Lennon is really not someone I would hitch my wagon to. He is not some sort of hero.

Do you know who runs Urban Scoop?

I have every sympathy and admiration for Sammy Woodhouse. It doesn't mean I have to agree with all of her views.

5iveleafclovers · 10/01/2025 20:17

All I can ask is that you protect your daughters (and sons, if you look at the rapes of young boys in Ireland so that mothers now worry about their sons)

I live in Ireland. That is categorically not true. What on earth are you talking about? As for Tommy Robinson, he was practically run out of Ireland when he was here hanging around with the far right last year. Apparently some were involved with his 'documentary'. His documentary is bullshit.

Chipsahoy · 10/01/2025 20:27

Ever wonder why she lied? Not saying what she has done is right, but no one in their right mind does that. I suspect she’s been abused, a lot. Accusing someone else who is “safe” is actually very common.

Focusing on false accusations is taking away from the real ones.

BookyGilly · 11/01/2025 16:51

Okay, I've just come back to this and this will be my last post on the subject. Does anyone recognise the irony that no-one wants to look at The Rape of Britain documentaries because they were produced and fronted by Tommy Robinson? Even though there are first hand accounts from victims, many of whom were sceptical about Tommy. Or Plantation II, The Rise of the Celts (which has a clip of someone reporting when a teenage lad runs past half naked after saying he's been raped by illegal immigrants).
Remember that most of the gang rape victims were dismissed by authorities because they were from the wrong backgrounds. They weren't the perfect messengers but they were telling the truth. It saddens me that so many people who have been appalled by these rape gangs are not even going to hear their testimonies because they have been given to Tommy Robinson. And that is the crux of the problem. No matter your views about Tommy Robinson, at least show the victims some respect and hear their stories. Because they have been voiceless and ignored for decades. Which is why it still continues today.

BookyGilly · 11/01/2025 16:54

@Chipsahoy I think you are correct. Check out the James English podcast I mentioned previously. Tommy exonerated Mo Rammy from those allegations. But it's obvious this was a very disturbed girl.

BookyGilly · 11/01/2025 17:43

@Chipsahoy Please go to YouTube and input The Phantom Rape Gang. It will give you more information on that case.

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