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Have i overreacted?

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Quiinkong · 07/01/2025 22:18

I have a 5 month old DS. At 3.5mths old, i had to tell DP that he needs to start helping with night feeds because the exhaustion was unreal. So, he does night shift 2 days a week depending on work schedule, so days aren't fixed. Last week saturday night rolls around and he goes to go to sleep as normal until i tell him he's on night shift (he already knew this because he does night shifts when he doesn't have to get up for work the next day). He tried it with "i thought you were doing it" but i knew he was partly joking and we just laughed. I fed DS around 11.

Now, this boy's feeding habit is erratic. Sometimes he wants to feed again 2hrs later, 1.5hrs later, 3hrs later etc and DP knows this too. In fact, just last week Wednesday, he ate 3x within 3hrs (90ml each time, max he will feed is 120ml at a time). Around 12:20am, he started fussing in bed which is his feeding cue when he's sleeping, so i nudged DP to feed him (we were still awake in bed). DS only eats 60ml and DP is like "he wasn't really hungry" but 5mins later DS starts fussing again. DS has moments where he will eat a little bit and 5-10mins later, wants the rest. So, i said to DP "i think he wants the rest now" and DP said "no, he's not hungry", i left it and said nothing. About 20mins later, i got up myself because DS was still fussing in bed (fussing just means he's restless while his eyes are still closed), i take him and fed him the rest of the 60ml and he ate it. I say nothing to DP because he already started sleeping.

Just before 2am, DS is fussing again and i once again nudge DP because he's a deeper sleeper than i am, so, i usually have to wake DP to feed our son. I nudge him and he's like "omg he's not hungry, what time is it? What time did he last eat" and I'm like "that's what you said earlier but i got up and he ate" and DP said "yeah, so how long ago was that" and I'm like "that doesn't matter, he's hungry" and DP begrudgingly gets up and starts feeding our son (our convo was in whisper mode as we didn't want to wake DS). Once again, DS eats 60ml and DP comes out of whisper mode and starts going "see, he only ate 60ml, he wasn't really hungry, let him get proper hungry" and our son pops his eyes open from obviously the not so quiet voice and i was like "really? Did you have to bring this up right now?" and DP reiterates himself again and i was just like "ok, you know what, I'll do the night shift" and i scoot near the crib , essentially taking over where DP was sleeping which is usually my place to sleep.

DP starts going off "move back to your place, I'll do the shift" and I'm obviously over his complaining at 2am over having to wake up to feed our son and i tell him no, I'll do the shift and stay on that side of the bed. DP angrily (i could see his expression) puts DS in his crib and starts to power shove me to the other side of the bed, no bra on and he's just angrily trying to roll me like tissue paper to the other side. After he was done, i was so pissed off that i took my foot to his body and started pushing him back as well and he starts telling me again to move back to the other side "i know what you're trying to get me to do" he says. I'm there like wtf does that mean? I've never been violent in my relationships, never a shove or a slap or even cussing, me shovinv him was the first time ever for me in a relationship. So, i was there like is he implying I'm trying to make him be violent? What an effin laugh! Told him if he can't control himself, he shouldn't try to put that on me by gaslighting me. Mind you, our DS is fully awake in his crib. DP yanks my pillows and throws them on the floor, so i laughed, got up with the duvet, grabbed my pillows and went to sleep in the living room.

He goes to the kitchen while mumbling "i know what you're trying to get me to do and it won't work", i didn't say anything in response. Let's just say i had a difficult time sleeping. Sunday night, he goes to work. Monday morning, DS wakes up early and I'm obviously exhausted from night shift (waking up every 1.5-2hrs to feed him and then change him once) and sometimes when i wake up around 4/5am to feed him, i find it difficult to go back to sleep right away and by the time i want to go back to sleep, DS wakes up right then. So, i grabbed DS from his crib and put him beside me in bed and i start to doze off but fear of him falling out of bed (he's now crawling) if i actually sleep off made me get up and move to the sofa bed in the living room. This way, i can secure him against the back of the chair while i doze in and out of sleep. I finally get DS to go back to sleep an hour later and start to sleep too only to be woken up less than an hour later by DP semi shouting why i have our son sleeping in the living room. Honestly, i could have thrown him out the window. Our son was sleeping, i was effin finally able to get some sleep and he wakes us up. I told him to stop shouting and that we only moved to the living room in the morning, so not like i had our son sleep there all night.

DP goes off like "go to the bedroom and put him in his crib" and i told him to take DS there himself then, he doesn't but keeps repeating himself and i just ignored him and he just kept going on and on saying how petty i get over a small disagreement, as a mother I'm not acting mature and i just continued to ignore him. On his way to sleep, he says "don't bring that boy in to disturb my sleep or else we'll have an issue". Oh, so his sleep is precious and mine wasn't? When DS took a nap, i just left him on the sofa bed because i didn't want to have any sort of conversation with DP. In the evening, he had the audacity to ask if i was going to be cooking dinner and i just continued to ignore him. As I'm typing this, i still haven't spoken to him.

AIBU? Was it really not as big of a deal as I'm making it out to be because tbh I'm questioning my relationship with this man.

OP posts:
StephMD89 · 11/01/2025 12:38

I've read the whole post OP and glad to see that the bigger treat is helping. When they start taking to long to drink their milk that's normally a sign to go up the teat. My friend who recently had a baby didn't know that was the cue to move up but she changed and baby feeds much better.

I do want to say which I didn't notice anyone mention, this age is prime time for the 6 month sleep regression to start. So if your baby reverts back to wakening more and fussing this could be the reason instead of needing milk. The 6 month regression was pure hell!!

Hopefully now baby is sleeping better you and your husband can sit down and have a proper conversation. Get everything out and listen to each other and take on board what each other is saying.

In terms of the night feeds, I know you say your husband doesn't wake, but is it a case of subconsciously he knows you will get up with him? My husband wouldn't have woke either at fussing on his nights but crying he did. The best thing my husband said to me one night was that if I continued to sit up and watch him do the feeds then he wouldn't do them. I realised how right he was and left him to it and got rested myself.

Hang in there, this stage is hard for you both, especially being sleep deprived.

BooAvenues · 11/01/2025 12:59

Quiinkong · 11/01/2025 09:14

Addressed what? Co-sleeping on a sofa bed? Not a sofa alone, a sofa bed! Yeah, not gonna "address" sleeping on a sofa bed like sleeping on an actual bed together where he could fall off is a better alternative. Does this feel addressed for you now?

It is not safe to cosleep on a sofa bed with a baby.

Horserider5678 · 11/01/2025 13:19

As the old saying goes you’ve made a rod for your own back! Speak to your health visitor and get some strategies to help get your baby to sleep. At 5 months he should be a some sort of routine, it sounds like if he so much as whimpers in his sleep you assume he waking for a feed and you then get him up! You’ll find if you feed him less at night he’ll take more during the day. Also discuss with your health visitor different formulas as there maybe one that’s suits him better! Please don’t even doze on a sofa with him, babies have suffocated through parents doing this, it’s really dangerous!

ThisOneIsMine · 11/01/2025 14:08

Quiinkong · 11/01/2025 06:17

Update

The new teat is working wonders. He now eats 150ml at a time. He had his night time feed at 9pm and i woke up to feed him around 2:30 and he is still sleeping now. I could kiss the teat suggestion person! GP also said he should be on solids now, so i went veg shopping yesterday and the baby food processor will be brought out from storage. All in all, i want to thank you all. I was really starting to get discouraged about having another kid but my womb's faith has been renewed.

So glad the teats have made a difference, op! Onwards and upwards! Fingers crossed 🤞 for longer stretches of sleep. These early days are so hard. For what it's worth, we also got very little input from the health visitor, they had scheduled visits at 6months and a year etc but would come out or chat on the phone if I called and needed advice. So may be an option if u feel u need it. Good luck with it all!

JayJayj · 11/01/2025 18:28

Fidgety31 · 07/01/2025 22:33

It sounds very petty from both sides .

on another note - all my babies were on solids and sleeping through the night at that age . Does your baby still have only milk ? Maybe hes too hungry to sleep all night ?

Baby should not be on solids at 5 months. And my daughter is 2 and still doesn’t sleep through night. Shockingly enough all babies are different and sleep differently

Gettingslimmer · 11/01/2025 19:30

JayJayj · 11/01/2025 18:28

Baby should not be on solids at 5 months. And my daughter is 2 and still doesn’t sleep through night. Shockingly enough all babies are different and sleep differently

Um her gp said to put him on solids. I’m sure she should go with her gp’s guidance, not refuse it snd say some random on mumsnet said no,

MrsB74 · 11/01/2025 19:50

JayJayj · 11/01/2025 18:28

Baby should not be on solids at 5 months. And my daughter is 2 and still doesn’t sleep through night. Shockingly enough all babies are different and sleep differently

Some babies need solids at 5 months - my DD was one of them (the health visitor recognised the signs in her and advised it). Guidelines are just that, guidelines, and will not suit all babies. They change frequently as well. Years ago it was 4 months and it will no doubt change again at some point. My other DD wasn't ready for solids until later.

unmemorableusername · 11/01/2025 20:06

A 5 month old shouldn't be feeding more than 3/4 hourly at night unless there's some underlying issue.

You both need more sleep.

Maybe then you can have a rational conversation

Quiinkong · 11/01/2025 21:08

scoopoftheday · 11/01/2025 09:46

@Quiinkong

I'm glad things are looking brighter with the change of teat.

But re: sofa bed sleeping. It's incredibly dangerous. As is taking baby into bed with you so I don't know why you think you know it all in that regard. In my job I have sat through numerous inquests for infants who had been sleeping in the bed, one memorable one where his mother had him on the crook of her arm on tje inside of the sofa 😞

I say you sound like a bit of a control freak, and that's not meant in a bad way, but you need to learn to let go and let your dh get up. If you're hovering over him is it any wonder he doesn't get up, he knows he's going to be criticised no matter what he does.

Let him build a bond with his baby and in the long run you'll get more sleep.

These are the most difficult days. Stick together to get through them.

I'm perfectly ok co-sleeping with my child. Others may not want to do so but i am fine with it. Thanks for your insight though

OP posts:
Quiinkong · 11/01/2025 21:10

BlueMum16 · 11/01/2025 11:20

I'm so glad you are getting longer sleep.

Make arrangements with your DP if you do the 2am feed he does the 6am feed and lets you sleep in longer

It won't be long until DC drops the 2am sleep.

Good luck with the weaning. I found keeping to the same thing for a week was best rather than trying lots of new things are once. I batched cooked and froze in ice cube trays so I could take out a few cubes each meal time.

Baby rice or Weetabix at bedtime was always good. My DC sleep longer as they were full.

I don't even think we will need to rotate anymore if he continues to sleep like this. I woke up not feeling tired and ready to take on the world lol

OP posts:
Quiinkong · 11/01/2025 21:13

BooAvenues · 11/01/2025 12:59

It is not safe to cosleep on a sofa bed with a baby.

Thank you, duly noted.

OP posts:
Quiinkong · 11/01/2025 21:14

JayJayj · 11/01/2025 18:28

Baby should not be on solids at 5 months. And my daughter is 2 and still doesn’t sleep through night. Shockingly enough all babies are different and sleep differently

Lol don't let some people in this thread see this because apparently some think all babies are the same and regardless of how many times i said i know my baby's feeding cue, i was told i was wrong.

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Gazelda · 11/01/2025 21:23

OP, please listen to advice about co sleeping on a sofa bed

www.basisonline.org.uk/sofa-sharing/

Cakeorchocolate · 12/01/2025 03:32

JC I can't believe how this has come out as yabu. You aren't. Men that can't be bothered to respond to babies needs while mums have to cover the gap are just selfish.
You know your baby. I'm glad you're finding some improvement with going up a teat size.
You said baby is 5months so you shouldn't already be weaning even if the gp says it. The NHS guidance is 6mths as I'm sure you already know, but a couple of weeks either side won't make much difference. It is a guidance and not all babies are the same like you already said.

Good luck.

BooAvenues · 12/01/2025 07:59

I think what’s most concerning here is that you aren’t bothering to do any research to keep your baby safe and healthy.

If you did, you would have done the research to see how to cosleep safely. It is not safe to cosleep on a sofa bed. You need to follow the Safe Sleep 7.

You would also have seen how damaging it is to give solids under 6 months, and the lifelong gut issues like IBS and Crohn’s that this can cause (that won’t show up till adulthood, so you won’t know the damage you have done till so much later).

A GP is not qualified to be giving out infant feeding advice.

Before doing something with your child, particularly when it comes to feeding and sleeping which can be fatal if done incorrectly, you really should be doing the appropriate research.

Kths · 12/01/2025 17:36

A restless baby doesn’t always mean hungry baby especially at 5 months, maybe he’s not hungry but is eating as it’s offered, it doesn’t say whether it’s breast or formula so if it’s formula maybe he needs a hungry baby formula

you are both sleep deprived and cranky which is understandable but you sound like insufferable children

when it’s your husbands night to have him sleep on sofa so you actually sleep, being in same room means you hear the baby stir, it’s natural for a mom to wake up straight away men take longer! you are telling him to feed him and therefore without meaning to are being over bearing, let him figure it out as hard as that is

baby will eventually sleep through the night I know how hard that first year is

Kths · 12/01/2025 17:38

Health visitor is around till they are 5 years old

contact them

Neodymium · 12/01/2025 22:58

BooAvenues · 12/01/2025 07:59

I think what’s most concerning here is that you aren’t bothering to do any research to keep your baby safe and healthy.

If you did, you would have done the research to see how to cosleep safely. It is not safe to cosleep on a sofa bed. You need to follow the Safe Sleep 7.

You would also have seen how damaging it is to give solids under 6 months, and the lifelong gut issues like IBS and Crohn’s that this can cause (that won’t show up till adulthood, so you won’t know the damage you have done till so much later).

A GP is not qualified to be giving out infant feeding advice.

Before doing something with your child, particularly when it comes to feeding and sleeping which can be fatal if done incorrectly, you really should be doing the appropriate research.

where did you get the information that feeding solids before 6 months leads to gut issues? Sounds like something some naturopath has just made up based on anecdotal evidence.

BooAvenues · 13/01/2025 13:02

Neodymium · 12/01/2025 22:58

where did you get the information that feeding solids before 6 months leads to gut issues? Sounds like something some naturopath has just made up based on anecdotal evidence.

If you’re actually interested then the research and evidence is out there for you to find. It is all science backed - not anecdotal.

Realtalking · 13/01/2025 14:15

Kths · 12/01/2025 17:38

Health visitor is around till they are 5 years old

contact them

This.

Op, you may have been signed off by the health visitors but they will answer the phone/get back to you and visit you again if needs be.

my DD only ever had 1 HV visit (during covid) and my DS who is 6 months has only had two. However you can call them and request a visit and/or advice whenever.

glad the new teats are working, my DS was the same with taking small amounts, he also has reflux so feeds are lengthy. It’s exhausting being new parents but try to be kind to each other and support each other.

Neodymium · 13/01/2025 18:51

BooAvenues · 13/01/2025 13:02

If you’re actually interested then the research and evidence is out there for you to find. It is all science backed - not anecdotal.

I had a quick look on google scholar. I could only find one article on crohns disease and infant feeding practise and the conclusion was that there was a lower rate in breastfed children but age to introduce solids had no effect on it at all. The study was also from 1989.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1836892/

if it’s not published in a peer reviewed science journal than it’s not science backed research.

of course I only looked at crohns - and I did only have a very quick look and didn’t look up IBS or other gut health diseases.

Role of infant feeding practices in development of Crohn's disease in childhood - PMC

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1836892

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