Group of men rescued from Scarfell Pike

[MrsSkylerWhite]

Up to their waists in snow, apparently.
What sort of idiot decides to go on a hike when there’s an amber warning, meaning risk to life, in place?

If you want to kill yourselves, go ahead. Don’t expect to be rescued though when you inevitably get into trouble, putting other people’s lives at risk.

If they didn’t know what they were doing YANBU, they are idiots.

However even very experienced mountaineers can make mistakes. Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t go out fully prepared. The conditions atm are hardly anything to anyone who’s trekked in the Alps in winter.

Idiots. Some people have zero common sense. They don't only risk their own lives, but the lives of the wonderful volunteers who give up their time to go up there and rescue them.

People never learn do they

Idiots

YANBU.

Two people had to be rescued in Bannau Brycheiniog last night - they were camping. The weather warning had been well reported, it just seems so selfish to ask others to put themselves at risk when they’d made such unwise choices.

Tbf we don't know how experienced they were.. some people ice climb and will specifically climb when theres been snowfall in order to get that experience.
Its good practice for climbing taller mountains abroad which have ice all year round. They may have had all the proper equipment and skills but just fallen into bother.

However if they just thought they were going on an easy hike and rocked up with no experience or equipment then yes they are idiots.

My friend lives near there and it was in her local paper (website) and the comments were full of people calling them idiots etc and quite right. They should be fined for being such selfish morons.

We were all pre-warned about the bad weather but there are always some cocks who have to give no fucks for the rescuers who have to put their lives in danger to rescue these clowns.

Appalling and they should be named and bludy shamed.

Thatcastlethere · Today 22:46
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Tbf we don't know how experienced they were…..

Not experienced enough, obviously!

I don't get the vitriol. People make mistakes. I have a lot more patience for this type of mistake than I do for bad driving or sitting around all day developing heart disease.

But you don't become experienced if you don't push the envelope a bit

(Edit for typo)

Just listened to one of the rescuers on the radio. He said experienced hikers would have checked the weather warnings before setting off...

Too many idiots want photos for their instagram and don't consider the impact on others

Scafell Pike

What sort of idiot decides to go on a hike when there’s an amber warning, meaning risk to life, in place?

It’s in your title: men are the sort of idiots who climb mountains in the snow.

But by making this choice they have caused local people, who are volunteers, to risk their lives to rescue them.

Because rescuers had to risk their lives unneccessarily when a weather warning had been issued because they rang mountain rescue when they got lost and cold. A helicopter was called from Scotland- what if it was needed there?

You don’t understand why people are annoyed?

We all make mistakes, but this isn’t just a mistake. They chose one of the worst days weather wise to go up the highest mountain in the Lake District and they weren’t fully prepared according to the news.

Lo and behold the poor rescuers then have to put themselves in danger.

Words · Today 22:56

Scafell Pike

Indeed. Just noticed that my post was auto-corrected to Scar. No idea why or how to edit I’m afraid.

I think it depends how experienced and well prepared they were. I live in the Lakes and know someone who died on the fells in winter after slipping. The weather wasn't particularly bad and he was a well equipped, experienced mountaineer who was very unlucky.

LameBorzoi · Today 22:56

MrsSkylerWhite · Today 22:54
Thatcastlethere · Today 22:46
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Tbf we don't know how experienced they were…..
Not experienced enough, obviously!
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But you don't become experienced if you don't push the envelope a bit

Fine, but surely not during an amber warning with a pretty strong possibility of having to call out other people to rescue you, putting their lives at risk?

Plain stupidity.

The fells are really dangerous in this weather, sadly there have been two deaths over the last few days. These guys were stupid to set out with the weather warning in place, thank goodness for the dedication of thr mountain rescue volunteers.

TheFlyingHorse · Today 23:02

I think it depends how experienced and well prepared they were. I live in the Lakes and know someone who died on the fells in winter after slipping. The weather wasn't particularly bad and he was a well equipped, experienced mountaineer who was very unlucky

An entirely different and sad situation. Of course accidents happen. This group, though, deliberately set out in atrocious weather. There’s really no excuse.

People parking dangerously in Brecon Beacons to walk in awful weather, no appropriate clothing or footwear . Accidents waiting to happen.

I get the annoyance, but it's the sheer level of vitriol that gets me.

I've done a lot of wilderness stuff. It's really not as black and white as people are assuming. If you need experience for difficult conditions overseas, this is how you get it. And it's really easy to make an error of judgement (and no, I've never had the need to be rescued).

And the volunteers who rescued them - doing things like this is how they became experienced enough to do it.

They can’t be completely stupid as they set out very early at 4am, made it to the summit and got lost on their way down and called for help at 9:20am. One had injured their ankle, which can happen to anyone. Also they knew how to make an emergency call with no phone signal.

So yes they made some mistakes but many people make a great many more.

As an experienced hiker, I know the elements can get you unexpectedly. You can plan and still get caught out. I go out with all the gear in case of unexpected changes, but carry a means of satellite communication, in case the unanticipated happens. I hope to never need rescue but you never know. If I do, it won't be idiocy or lack of preparation on my part. Previous poster said it was injury and they seemed to know what they were doing, so it sounds like bad luck and fair rescue. These things happen and they were prepared to call for rescue, so they were responsible and well equipped.

On the other hand, I also constantly see people heading into the wilderness poorly or inappropriately equipped, who then go on to need rescue. So that happens a lot too.

PreferMyAnimals · Today 23:24
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As an experienced hiker, I know the elements can get you unexpectedly. You can plan and still get caught out. I go out with all the gear in case of unexpected changes, but carry a means of satellite communication, in case the unanticipated happens. I hope to never need rescue but you never know. If I do, it won't be idiocy or lack of preparation on my part. Previous poster said it was injury and they seemed to know what they were doing, so it sounds like bad luck and fair rescue. These things happen and they were prepared to call for rescue, so they were responsible and well equipped.
On the other hand, I also constantly see people heading into the wilderness poorly or inappropriately equipped, who then go on to need rescue. So that happens a lot too.

Would you set off with an amber warning in place?