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to expect ex to sell his music gear to pay me back the £3000 he borrowed to buy it before he fucked off with someone else 6m later??!!!

68 replies

misscathcart · 03/05/2008 18:44

No I don't think I am but I need to rant!
I just asked him to do this, explaining that I am going to have trouble paying my rent soon and he said 'but that will leave me with nothing!' and started getting annoyed!! With me!
He doesn't pay anything towards dd as it is as he is on long term sick! OMFG he just takes the piss!
He said we will talk about it tomorrow when he picks dd up - cue a big row that will no doubt end badly. I have tried to avoid all confrontations since we split despite the fact that he has been a complete at times - but this I am not backing down on
moral support needed - don't let me wimp out at 11am tomorrow!

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schneebly · 03/05/2008 18:47

he needs to grow up and take some responsibility fgs! He doesn't need the music gear for work or anything because he doesnt work - would he rather his daughter lose the roof from over her head? What a twat!

mumblechum · 03/05/2008 18:48

Get yourself down to the County Court, fill in form N1 (summons in the small claims court), issue, get judgement then send the bailiffs round to take the gear to sell at auction.

Bet you anything he miraculously finds the money he owes you.

misscathcart · 03/05/2008 18:57

no he doesn't need it for work at all, never has, just some ongoing dream of being a rock star (ecept he's even been kicked out the band for being now!)

I will definately resort to the courts if I have to - thank you for that mumblechum!

I'm so mad - he has his head stuck in the clouds, how does he think I'm managing?! Yes, he has her on the three days I work whoopdeedoo! I would like to be at home with her to! grrr!

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misscathcart · 03/05/2008 19:00

oh - he's just txt me:

'what the hell do you want me to do? Look, I'll just bring it all round tomorrow and you can do what you want with it. I can't deal with even thinking about it.'
The equipment he means. He is off work with depression.

I should respond 'ok, thanks. See you at 11am'

why do i feel myself going soft??

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FluffyMummy123 · 03/05/2008 19:01

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petitmaman · 03/05/2008 19:14

don't go soft or he'll say well i did offer and you didnt want it. it was your money in the first place. therefore that stuuf is kind of yours anyway. if you are struggling or will be soon get it on ebay quick!

REPEAT DO NOT GO SOFT!!!!

THINK OF YOUR DD.

misscathcart · 03/05/2008 19:15

if i ring him he'll get nasty and unreasonable and put the phone down.
I've text and just said 'ok, thanks. See you in the morn.'

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misscathcart · 03/05/2008 19:17

dreading the response to that as I know he expected me to back down and give in to him...

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misscathcart · 03/05/2008 19:18

I know, I do think of it as mine really, especially as I gave him the money out of some inheritance. Its hard standing up to him sometimes tho.
I'm not a wet blanket either.

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barnstaple · 03/05/2008 19:22

You don't want the equipment, you need the money. Second hand it won't be worth £3000 unless you're very very lucky. So don't let him give it to you; you'll end up (assuming you can sell it all) with about half what he borrowed, and he'll say that you accepted the equipment so doesn't owe you anything.

misscathcart · 03/05/2008 19:25

theres no way he can come up with the money, he hasn't got enough to pay his own bills
I know I can get a good price on the stuff, but I will push for the remainder that is owed from him as soon as I know he has the money (could be a while tho!)
I need the money in the months to come and there is no other way of him getting it to me.

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barnstaple · 03/05/2008 19:27

Good luck.

misscathcart · 03/05/2008 19:31

thank you. still no word so I'll see what turns up on my door step in the morning I guess...

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tribpot · 03/05/2008 19:32

He sounds like a skilled manipulator, so it's not surprising you find it difficult to stand up to him. Add to that the obvious history plus the fact he is 'ill' (my dh is chronically ill but not a chronic shyster as your ex would appear to be) and it makes for a very emotional mix.

If you think you must take the stuff, do so, but be clear this does not cancel the debt and you will want the balance when he can pay for it.

I'd also say: don't get involved in a row about it tomorrow. That's what he wants, because it gives him the opportunity to make it emotional and thus manipulate you again. I'd try and keep it simply to business, accept the stuff, say I'll let you know what I get for it and so how much you still owe and leave it at that. If he wants to discuss it further I'd say you need to take advice first and you'll be in touch.

You can't possibly discuss something like this whilst dd is around, it's not fair to anyone. Can you be 'on your way out' when he comes to pick her up, such that there isn't time for a protracted debate, just a handover and 'see you at [x] time'?

I think whatever you do, don't respond to him again this evening. He's bound to send some godawful text in reply. Turn off the phone?

misscathcart · 03/05/2008 19:40

yep - just got the nasty text back suggesting I don't understand how inportant his music is to him and what if he gets asked to join a band soon, oh and also that i should ask my usless family for a handout for a change.
I knew this would happen.

I just left a calm, sensible and dignified message on his answerphone (he wouldn't answer)

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misscathcart · 03/05/2008 19:41

silly, thoughtless me - he did point out that he always buys clothes for dd

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misscathcart · 03/05/2008 19:51

'You know what my gear is to me. Its my only escape. What if I get asked to join a new band tomorrow? As it is I'm already planning a new project, but thats pretty much quashed that! You know I had every intention of paying you back, but incase you hadn't noticed, I'm not exactly rolling in it at the moment! I'm taking in x every 2 weeks. Never once have I asked you for a handout!i buy all my own stuff for dd and I buy a lot of clothes for her. Ask YOUR useless family for a handout for once. Get your mum to sell a fucking house or something!'

sorry I'm not one for normally displaying my rows all over the net but I think I'm speechless after reading that back.

WTF do I still feel like I'm being mean and hard????!!! Shake me someone!

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tribpot · 03/05/2008 19:52

Well now you've said that he buys clothes for dd that of course changes everything. Not.

But seriously, just don't engage with him tonight. I know your message was sensible and dignified but it still sent the message to him 'I am upset by your response and buying into your bullshit'.

What if he gets asked to join a band soon, PMSL. Music is important to him - rent is important to you!

misscathcart · 03/05/2008 19:55

lol thanks trib! I know, it is absurd.
I won't respond at all now. I'll try to keep things brief in the morning. I have had too much upset from him in the past and I will not let him bring me down anymore.

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lou33 · 03/05/2008 19:56

oh i have had all this with my exh and his music gear

they sound very similar, my sympathies

colacubes · 03/05/2008 19:59

No not unreasonable, but by the sounds of him, if you think the money will never be forthcoming, I would consider it 3k well spent getting rid of him!!

Good luck,

themoon66 · 03/05/2008 20:04

He says you should ask your family for a handout... It's NOT a handout you are asking for... it's your own money back for you

Judy1234 · 03/05/2008 20:06

Take the equipment and sell it. Legally you probably made him a gift and if you sued you wouldn't get anything. Presumably you weren't married?

misscathcart · 03/05/2008 20:09

we still are married... would this make a difference? When I eventually get round to it I will ask for a divorce on the grounds of adultery.

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macdoodle · 03/05/2008 20:10

Same here sinking towards bankruptcy - H drives a stonking huge truck (that I bought new with an inheritance 3-4 years ago) and a motorbike in MY garage that he never rides - when I suggested he sell both buy a little runaround and bail us out to give us some breathing space he just grunted - I could lose my house FGS