To say most places are too cold to be enjoyable?

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The cold snap has really emphasised this, but AIBU to say most places are freezing and it really puts me off going?

I love the idea of a cozy coffee shop, warm pub with a fire, warm restaurant and red wine.

in reality, most places are draughty, barely heated and you have to keep your coat on.

It's not the weather, as I've travelled in Europe to much colder places and everywhere is so toasty and lovely in comparison, even places that are warm in the summer seem to do winter heating well.

Is it just me, or are others often disappointed? I don't even think I'm a particularly 'cold' person.

@LadyChilli

thisssss! I don’t wanna have to be practical and ‘wrap up warm’ when I go out for food or drinks, I want to wear what I want to wear not to have to dress practically - I do that vast majority of the time , it’s boring

Yes, I agree. It’s since heating costs went through the roof. Even my expensive gym/health club is like this. The changing rooms are freezing and the hot tub is, well, not hot - Cold actually!

Blended family of 7 children and 7 grandchildren ranging from 21 to 1, most on my side. For many reasons we didn't see most of the grandchildren at Christmas and had to leave their presents with one of the other children. They have all had their gifts now, not one of the ones old enough has said thank-you. Is it not a done thing now? My son got married earlier this year too and there's been no sign of any thank yous for the not inexpensive gift we gave. Am I expecting too much? I taught my children to say thank you and always made them write thank you letters.

I put my heating on low when my dog sitter, dog trainer and nurse come. None of them take their coats off! I always feel bad because I'm okay and they're obviously shivering

I think you’ve posted this on the wrong thread 😂 but without derailing this thread I’ll just briefly say yeah unfortunately it’s common not to get thank yous from kids. I would expect a thank you from an adult following a wedding though.

I went to the theatre at Christmas at it was absolutely freezing. I wrapped up warmer to visit another, later in the week, and we were sweating. I hate being hot, but you can't sit still for a full performance in the freezing cold and enjoy it.

That sounds miserable but tbf it’s your house. I used to be a private tutor and thankfully all my clients made sure the room was warm. But even if they didn’t I guess I’d just have sucked it up for the hour or so I was there and thought ah I’d least I’m getting paid.

I think I mainly just get annoyed when I’m the client/customer who is paying for something eg. A theatre visit, a cafe lunch, a visit to a lawyers office.

I feel in all those situations they need to make sure the people who keep them in business don’t freeze.

I often find the opposite, walking indoors when it is cold outside is like moving from the Arctic to the tropics. Many places overdo the heating in winter and the air con in summer, then complain about utility bills. Not unlike people complaining about the cost of petrol yet there seems to be a fair few who leave their engines idling for several minutes whilst they faff around on their phone (yes I have seen this and not just in winter). When it comes to keeping warm in winter it is all about dressing properly for the conditions, layers work best. A reckon many people dress for form rather than function then complain they are too cold.

@asrl78 so you are fine sitting in a restaurant or cage with loads of layers on to keep warm?

I'm finding places too hot. I've had to strip off to my T-shirt in several venues.

I do dress for the weather though and am acclimatised for colder weather than most.

Went for a walk on a snowy, icy beach the other day and ended up sans scarf, gloves and jacket. I'd have taken my jumper off too if I could have carried it easily.

DS was also in T-shirt. I think it was -4°.

Of you are happy to only wear a t shirt in minus 4 degrees weather, then you must accept that is unusual. And it WBU for venues to set their heating at a level for people like you

I watch quite a few Scandi programmes on tv. It shows deep snow and snowfall yet the cars have no problem scooting round the roads and when the people are indoors, they are in t shirts and flimsy clothes. I often wonder, is their heating cheaper than ours or are their homes more adapted to the weather. Also why don’t they have frozen pipes everywhere. I know we only suffer this type of weather for a short space of time but our climate is becoming more unpredictable so maybe we need to accommodate this like they do.

I've noticed this in some hotels, too. I stay away a couple of nights for work most months and used to have a selection of three or four hotels I'd pick from. At least two of those now seem to have completely disconnected their thermostats because it doesn't matter what you try to do, it makes no difference and the rooms are cold. I don't want to be hot, I just want to be comfortable. I now stay at the same hotel each time because I can control the temperature to suit me.
As PPs have said, although energy bills are high and I do have some sympathy, it's a false economy for those that don't give guests a choice as they're probably losing some business altogether, and possibly for good.
I'll now stick with the one that provides comfort when I want it, even if I pay a little bit more per night.

The beauty salon I go to is always freezing but he’s told me about their struggles with keeping afloat.

My hairdresser blasts one of those portable heaters when I’m in.

On the flip side walking into Asda is always overly warm.

It ought to be comfortable sat there in a big jumper but you shouldn’t need to keep your coat on ?
I really feel uncomfortable in overheated places but if it’s 17-18c inside in winter ❄️ then I’m ok with that .
obviously the number of people in the cafe / restaurant/ pub will have an effect on how warm it is .
my hairdressers was too warm when I was last there 🙁 they had reverse cycle AC on .
the next day I got a nosebleed because of all that dry air heat

25c , wow that’s too warm !

Totally agree and delighted to find someone else say the same, I comment on it often but my partner runs warm and thinks it's just me who feels cold in every pub and cafe. It is indeed a new problem, since energy prices rocketed. I noticed a big difference when I have visited Paris, several times, in winter - everywhere inside lovely and toasty.

Yep, I made exact same comment to my DH when we were in Europe for a few days over the Christmas holiday. It’s the first time we’ve ever been to a cold destination and although weather there is more or less same as UK (only a couple of degrees colder anyway) I noticed how much warmer it was inside shops/restaurants/cafes/public places. Businesses definitely scrimp on the heating in the UK and it makes it pretty unpleasant sitting indoors with coat on, when you’re paying for the service (e.g. cafe, hairdressers etc). I do have sympathy as the energy bills in UK for businesses are eye-wateringly high. But, as other PP have pointed out it’s surely false economy as customers get put off going?

I am in an M&S now having the lovely chicken and grain soup and it is perfectly warm. They have lowered some of the blinds as the sun is shining in dazzling everyone.

If you ever get too cold I advise you to ask the hotel for a stand-alone heater @Rokerwriter

Most have them stored somewhere. I didn’t know always know about this and I spent the night in one very cold hotel barely able to sleep, but then in another hotel they offered me a heater when I said it was too cold. And since then I often ask for one as the room heating is rarely adequate and they’ve always had one.

I don’t have this issue in the hotels of other cold-ish countries I travel to.

It depends on things such as the size and layout of the venue or how well insulated it is or and of course personal taste. it would not be too warm for me.

25 degrees is fairly warm and toasty in my tiny hall but not particularly warm in my open plan living room/kitchen.

Those who find a place of 25 degrees too warm can of course go the many other colder establishments - there’s no shortage of them in the UK - and leave the cosy places for me. 😂

The issue is generally most places here seem to cater only for those who like or at least can tolerate very cool temperatures indoors . As I said I don’t find this in other much colder countries.

I’d love to stay in these hotels. I always find them too hot. The radiator in my bedroom is turned off all year and I sleep with the window open too. I’ve never been cold in a hotel.

@Thecrawdadssing you would have loved it in Denmark - when we lived there everywhere was toasty in winter and nicely lit too

@StitchVic we were in Vienna forNY -exactly like that