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To say most places are too cold to be enjoyable?

149 replies

Mushroo · 05/01/2025 14:17

The cold snap has really emphasised this, but AIBU to say most places are freezing and it really puts me off going?

I love the idea of a cozy coffee shop, warm pub with a fire, warm restaurant and red wine.

in reality, most places are draughty, barely heated and you have to keep your coat on.

It's not the weather, as I've travelled in Europe to much colder places and everywhere is so toasty and lovely in comparison, even places that are warm in the summer seem to do winter heating well.

Is it just me, or are others often disappointed? I don't even think I'm a particularly 'cold' person.

OP posts:
Kim5678 · 05/01/2025 15:09

I disagree, I dress for the weather outside and end up absolutely boiling inside most places. I do understand though if you expect somewhere to be 20 something degrees because you’re not spending much time outside then you dress for that comfortable temperature

devildeepbluesea · 05/01/2025 15:12

I’ve noticed this too. Went for breakfast the other day, ended up eating it in my coat, much more quickly than I would have liked. Our local pub isn’t too bad but could be a tad warmer.

abnerbrownsdressinggown · 05/01/2025 15:17

I haven’t noticed this at all. I usually find most places are far too warm in winter for my normal winter clothes (so vest top and a sweater) so I have to work out whether I want to freeze on the way there or bake when Inget there.

latetothefisting · 05/01/2025 15:19

ha I'm the opposite, most places feel way too hot for me! I'm always amazed at how hot some people have their homes.

Pubs/restaurants fair enough, you get cold sitting still for a while but why are shops so hot all the time? I end up carrying around multiple layers and sweating. Most people will a) be moving around in a shop, so keeping warm that way, and b) won't be staying there for hours, so is there any need for heating?

I went to the pub the other day after a walk and was absolutely roasting sitting in the sun by the window with the radiator on as well but it's not like I could take any more clothing off without being indecent! Whereas at least sitting with a coat on is doable, if not fun/comfortable.

Men tend to run warmer, while old people will be colder - it must be a balancing act to try and get an ambient temperature for everyone. Ironically the more people in somewhere the warmer it will get through body heat, breathing etc, so perhaps if places entice people in with heat they can then get enough customers to then turn it down?

MrsSkylerWhite · 05/01/2025 15:21

It’s because it is pretty unusual in most of the UK. We’re just not prepared.
It’s the norm in a lot of European countries and they’ve adapted accordingly.

Mrsgreen100 · 05/01/2025 15:29

Yep energy crisis!
dumped my usual hairdresser after my last visit, sitting there waiting for ages ( dye job)
completely freezing.
totally get that it’s expensive to heat the place but as the door opened and shut I was almost frozen, 150 quid and frozen No way
they have heaters but didn’t put them on
why on earth they don’t use heated throws or something anything

Mushroo · 05/01/2025 15:30

latetothefisting · 05/01/2025 15:19

ha I'm the opposite, most places feel way too hot for me! I'm always amazed at how hot some people have their homes.

Pubs/restaurants fair enough, you get cold sitting still for a while but why are shops so hot all the time? I end up carrying around multiple layers and sweating. Most people will a) be moving around in a shop, so keeping warm that way, and b) won't be staying there for hours, so is there any need for heating?

I went to the pub the other day after a walk and was absolutely roasting sitting in the sun by the window with the radiator on as well but it's not like I could take any more clothing off without being indecent! Whereas at least sitting with a coat on is doable, if not fun/comfortable.

Men tend to run warmer, while old people will be colder - it must be a balancing act to try and get an ambient temperature for everyone. Ironically the more people in somewhere the warmer it will get through body heat, breathing etc, so perhaps if places entice people in with heat they can then get enough customers to then turn it down?

Oh I agree with shops being far too hot! It seems there's no happy medium (although supermarkets also seem to have escaped this and are also freezing. Which is fine as I'm just wandering around in my coat).

Zara and primark could pump their excess warmth to restaurants.

Whoever said it's not very hospitable is exactly right - I don't want to go somewhere as a treat and be less comfortable than at home! My house is currently about 19 degrees and that is fine for me, so I'm not asking for boiling.

A lot of the time a draughty door is a problem, a porch or even a self closing door would help a lot in many places.

OP posts:
Laiste · 05/01/2025 15:30

Lord i agree!

Both the Costa's local to us are sooo cold. They have the blinkin' air con on even at this time of year - you can feel it blowing your hair! I don't go in anymore.

Surgarblossom · 05/01/2025 15:30

Agree 100% took my DS to a Birthday party and it was absolutely freezing, couldn't wait to leave, then a couple of weeks later we went to a soft play centre and parents were sat with blankets. It just ruins the whole experience.

AngelinaFibres · 05/01/2025 15:31

BleachedJumper · 05/01/2025 14:21

I know what you mean op, we went to a different pub to usual on Boxing Day as our local was closed, absolutely freezing! Everyone sitting in their coats, I had one drink and left as it just wasn’t enjoyable.

Ten of us went for a family meal in a local pub before Christmas. We had booked a table. It was freezing. Even the crusty local farmers in the bar had jackets on and hoods up. The large fire in the bar wasn't lit and the radiators and fire in the dining room were cold. We left.
Went out to a cafe last week with my husband. We had a coffee and a toasty and left. I put my coat back on before the toasty arrived.

KindLemur · 05/01/2025 15:32

Yeah sitting in a soft play, draughty warehouse type place with my gloves and scarf on last week was horrible !

TheRoundaboutHadLovelyFlowers · 05/01/2025 15:32

We're freezing even in our own house and the thermometers claim it's 23C. Not sure why we feel so cold. We're wearing plenty of clothes.

Ginmonkeyagain · 05/01/2025 15:35

I find most places too hot this time of year. Because I walk or get public transport everywhere I dress for the outdoor temperature.

Laiste · 05/01/2025 15:37

KindLemur · 05/01/2025 15:32

Yeah sitting in a soft play, draughty warehouse type place with my gloves and scarf on last week was horrible !

Yes! I went to a soft play for the first time in a couple of years recently and just before i left i remembered that sometimes it used to be a bit nippy in there. Door opening a lot, ect ect. I grabbed a shawl scarf thing and put a t shirt under my jumper. Just in case. And advised other adult going to do the same.

Well thank goodness i did cos it was freezing! I kept my coat on and was so glad of the shawl scarf thing.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 05/01/2025 15:41

chocolatespreadsandwich · 05/01/2025 14:33

Yes, DH and I have given up going to cafes etc as we just end up sat there in our coats. At the cinema yesterday with the kids I nearly walked out halfway as I was so cold I felt ill

One of the reasons I stopped going to the cinema was because it was always to so cold in the summer because of the air con.

I wouldn't mind it being cold in the winter as I wear lots of layers at home anyway.

Ghostin · 05/01/2025 15:41

I know this sounds patently obvious, but are you sure you’re dressing for the weather? Only I see so many people in the UK wearing clothing which is wildly inappropriate for the climate!

We seem to be a nation allergic to layering up, choosing sensible footwear and staying properly dry. I see so many people out in wet, icy, Baltic weather wearing shoes which aren’t even waterproof, let alone warm and cosy. And then they take off their coats and have one shirt and maybe a thin sweater on.

The solution is multiple light layers, easily removable if your destination turns out to be cosy but there in place to keep you warm if needed. Sturdy, waterproof shoes a non-negotiable.

I live in a supremely draughty and difficult to heat house where most of the warmth comes from fires (inefficient in general), and I’m rarely cold because every day I wear a merino wool vest, long sleeved cotton layer, heavier cotton layer, and thick wool cardigan if needed.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 05/01/2025 15:43

TheRoundaboutHadLovelyFlowers · 05/01/2025 15:32

We're freezing even in our own house and the thermometers claim it's 23C. Not sure why we feel so cold. We're wearing plenty of clothes.

I was always cold when I was a child but now we wear lots of layers. Instead of 1 pair of thermals, I wear 3. It makes such a difference. I wish I had done that when I was younger.

I also have a shawl/wearable blanket as my shoulders and neck really feel the cold now I am in my 50s.

HauntedBungalow · 05/01/2025 15:45

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 05/01/2025 14:58

Marks and Spencers seem to gave turned their heating off, which is fine if I'm just flying about picking stuff up for dinner, bur I went to the cafe the other day and it was freezing. I couldn't get out of there quickly enough and won't be going back until the weather is warmer.

ALL the supermarkets near me are extremely cold now. Staff wear fingerless gloves and gilets just to work on the shop floor. The temperatures can't be much above chiller section, everywhere. I noticed it a couple of months ago. Yet they are reporting record profits. Piss taking bastards the lot of them.

chocolatespreadsandwich · 05/01/2025 15:45

Ghostin · 05/01/2025 15:41

I know this sounds patently obvious, but are you sure you’re dressing for the weather? Only I see so many people in the UK wearing clothing which is wildly inappropriate for the climate!

We seem to be a nation allergic to layering up, choosing sensible footwear and staying properly dry. I see so many people out in wet, icy, Baltic weather wearing shoes which aren’t even waterproof, let alone warm and cosy. And then they take off their coats and have one shirt and maybe a thin sweater on.

The solution is multiple light layers, easily removable if your destination turns out to be cosy but there in place to keep you warm if needed. Sturdy, waterproof shoes a non-negotiable.

I live in a supremely draughty and difficult to heat house where most of the warmth comes from fires (inefficient in general), and I’m rarely cold because every day I wear a merino wool vest, long sleeved cotton layer, heavier cotton layer, and thick wool cardigan if needed.

You might have a point there. I think I do need to invest in better thermals etc and layer more

BabyShock879 · 05/01/2025 15:47

CaptainCabinetsTrappedInCabinets · 05/01/2025 14:30

If you think your energy unit prices are high, double it for businesses.

It's simply not affordable for a business to heat their space so that it's "toasty warm" for 7 hours a day.

@CaptainCabinetsTrappedInCabinets depends on the business, surely. I know exactly what OP means, so many pubs and cafes don't have the heating on right now and are SO COLD. So we walk out either immediately or after one drink and don't go back. Not exactly a winning business model, is it?

HauntedBungalow · 05/01/2025 15:50

IMustDoMoreExercise · 05/01/2025 15:41

One of the reasons I stopped going to the cinema was because it was always to so cold in the summer because of the air con.

I wouldn't mind it being cold in the winter as I wear lots of layers at home anyway.

Our local city screen turned the heating off completely last winter. They started off having signs up saying that it was broken and they were waiting on an engineer, but it went on for the entire winter. No price reduction, of course. They offered blankets for people to keep warm but in a cinema everyone eats and drinks so that's not an acceptable solution. I ended up cancelling my membership as it was so obviously a deliberate decision - nobody is unable to find a heating engineer for three months. Again, piss taking bastards.

ChristmasKelpie · 05/01/2025 15:56

I don't mind it being a bit cold in a pub or cafe because i understand it cost so much but i never go back if the hot water tap only spits out arctic water when i go to wash my hands.

CarefulN0w · 05/01/2025 16:02

I think one of the issues in cafes is that staff are running round serving customers and so they are warm enough. The customers sat by a drafty door, not so much.

MissMarplesNiece · 05/01/2025 16:06

I went to my local McDonalds before Christmas and it was very cold in there - uncomfortably cold. It made me wish I'd taken the decision to sit & eat in my car instead. Surely McDonalds can afford to put the heating on?

Laiste · 05/01/2025 16:08

Cinema - back when Prometheus was on (2012 ish?) i was so cold i had to leave.

Lesson learned - i always wrap up for the cinema now. Going tonight, in fact, and wearing a thick polo necked jumper dress, thick tights and a coat and will carry a big cardi in to throw over my knees/legs as well!