She poured the marinade that the raw chicken had been in on the cooked chicken and served it

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Just that really.

Chatting to my lifelong friend while she was preparing dinner for her kids and that is what she did. She took the cooked wings out of her air fryer and poured the leftover marinade over it and served it to her kids. I was so taken aback and said oh you shouldn’t be doing that- it will have raw chicken germs all over it.

She looked at me like I was absolutely mad and said that’s how her mum always did it and the marinating chicken had been covered in the fridge so it was fine. I weakly said I didn’t think it was fine and she just laughed.

It’s not fine is it? I’s not going mad am I? She’s such a better housekeeper and cook than I am that I’m actually beginning to doubt myself! It’s so crazy- I ate at her house hundreds of times at a kid and I am certain her mum wouldn’t have done this. Is this a sliding doors of knowledge moment where she missed something fundamental? She’s like Martha Stewart and this is all completely mad.

As far as I am aware, her kids have never had a bout of food poisoning.

This ^

Are you sure she hadn't heated it up? Seems rather odd to pour something fridge cold (or near enough) over hot chicken. Germs apart, that doesn't sound tasty.

Even Google will tell her, if she doesn't believe you, use Google!

Some people are clueless. How can she think raw chicken juice makes a great sauce to pour on cooked chicken.

Recipe for disaster! You are NOT being unreasonable.

Usually I think posters banging on about food risks are being ridiculous but this is unbelievably dangerous

Are you sure the chicken was raw when it went in the air fryer? perhaps is was already cooked in the marinade?

Those kids must have guts of steel!

Nope I just don't like them at all . I can read an instruction manual.

Do you own every kitchen appliance that is avaliable?

Or do you have what you like and what you use ??
I don't like them and don't use them . Which happens to be my choice and the choice of many people .

And they don't make the best chicken. I don't know what restaurants you go to but the ones I eat at don't cook the food in an air fryer. But they do make the best chicken I have eaten .

Don’t eat or drink anything at her house.

Apart from the health risk why would anyone pour cold marinade on hot chicken? She's definitely wrong. I saw a friend once make herself Marmite on toast. She licked the knife both sides and put it in the pot again for some more. I told her all her germs would now be in that pot. I almost had some before I saw what she did. Not at the same level as cold marinade, I know, but yuk.

That's worse than the chicken. You'd have to tongue a knife for ages to get Marmite remnants off it.

Show her this thread.

Hey! Leave my innocent thread out of this! Even I know not to do what the OP's friend has apparently done!

And to put it into perspective, I would have eaten the 9day old COOKED turkey!
Thank you @Onlyvisiting 🦃

That's disgusting, but I'm sure a lot of people do things like that in private without us knowing. I used to have a boyfriend who would stick his fingers into food containers to retrieve things like pickles, olives and chunks of feta cheese, insisting that his fingers were clean and he was doing nothing wrong. Then he would complain that the "poor quality" feta cheese got moldy very quickly. 🙄

I'll go against the grain here

What was in the marinade? Some substances like vinegar & other acids like lemon juice can kill/prevent bacteria including campylobacter (thus why pickling things preserves them....). Alcohol can also kill campylobacter in one minute.

Its clearly crappy hygiene but i suspect modern antibiotic use, vaccines and hygiene standards around meat packing/prep in Western countries means this is probably lower risk than you might think

Yes that is the only thing that might make it low risk.

This is true. But, its still risky, as we can't be confident that the acidity or whatever is high enough to kill the bacteria. It seems like such a small step to skip (heat sauce through) for peace of mind.

Nooooooooooooooooooo

Still wouldn't be risking it given something like 70% of chicken has campylobacter
The chicken I ate was fully cooked and as I said to my dad (at a meal) "a bit overcooked"
It looks like it was maybe cross contamination with the salad I had

But honestly I wouldn't ever risk it again, it's not 24hrs of d&v, I was shitting myself every 30 mins for over 10 days, needed antibiotics and a drip and lost 17lbs

I NEED to know that you have told your friend how disgusting she is OP. In a nicer way if you must of course. But I need to know that she knows and is not feeding her poor children raw chicken juice anymore 🤢. I would definitely tell her, send her the revise and just say you’re not trying to be offensive but you are concerned. I’m also wondering what else she might do ? And how many others are so lax with things like this. Terrifying 😭.

*send her the evidence

Yes, I sometimes do this, but never the marinade with the raw chicken juice in it on cooked chicken. 🤢

Just catching up now. To answer a few questions!

1. Yes, the chicken was definitely raw when it came out of fridge and went into air fryer
2. I don’t know if the marinade was from a jar, pre cooked, high in vinegar etc but I don’t think this makes any difference- surely it’s not safe once it’s touched the raw chicken
3. I am certain she didn’t heat or nuke in the microwave the leftover marinade in the dish. We were chatting in the kitchen the entire time
4. yes, she poured the leftover marinade onto the hot chicken- about a tablespoon per plate for her kids.
5. No, I am definitely not showing her this thread. She would not take it in good humour and I could hardly blame her
6. I’m looking at the links that PPs have provided and might flick her one- not in a ha, look I was right and you were wrong way but more a this is what I was talking about way- what do you think?