Zero sympathy for people who had £10 million worth of jewellery stolen

[TwoCreamEggs]

People are struggling to heat their homes, feed their kids and pay their rent - whilst this 'millionaire influencer' has £10 million worth of jewellery stashed in a safe at home - I find this morally abhorrent and have zero sympathy. They have so little insight and social conscience that they feel it appropriate to flash jewellery and other signs of huge wealth all over social media. I'm glad no-one was injured obviously but hope the stolen jewellery is used to re-distribute some of their enormous wealth.

I bite

TwoCreamEggs
people like you are obviously not bothered by inequality, their issue is that others are a lot richer than they are. You are bitter. It's sad for you, your unhappiness has absolutely 0 impact on anyone else. It's your own life you are ruining with these ridiculous thoughts.

I can't believe anyone would keep that much valuable stuff in their house.

Brian Thompson made his billions by running an insurance company and it's entire model was based on denying medical insurance claims.

Shafira Huang, the victim, is not really an influencer, but works in the art world. She works at Halcyon Gallery and their accounts for the year ending December 2023 show a profit of £34m. Her husband is a property developer.

Hardly the same thing, is it?

But eg if your local business starts making a bit of money and decides to open another business/ franchise out etc etc, at what point do you go- eff them, it’s disgusting they have that amount of money! Musicians who spend their time playing pubs and then get a break and get rich etc. do some deserve it more than others? There’s ways to make millions that some people get lucky with but generally after putting a lot of work and themselves into. Do they then need to give ninety percent away to the poor? Would you really op?

Footballers are such a common argument, why?

Footballers make so much because they generate so much. People don't tune in and pay to watch an NHS consultant do surgery. They do tune in to watch Mo Salah each week, which is why he's paid so much.

I’m as socialist as they come but I draw the line at rejoicing at someone else’s burglary. That’s just sick.

The difference between a high salary of e.g 100k like an NHS consultant might make, is incomparable to footballers earning millions and millions.

whilst I agree that the wealth inequality in this county is an issue I don’t understand the stick footballers get. It’s a huge industry like the entertainment industry. Why shouldn’t the “stars” get a slice of the pie? If nobody watched a football match or bought the kit or paid to see Taylor Swift they wouldn’t be so rich. Plus a footballer is often from a less wealthy background & has a very short career so often the money gets burnt through quickly. The NHS consultants I know come from a very narrow background with family money, they are also privileged.

Why are you ignoring the concept that it’s all relative?

I think I remember her being slightly more upset that someone she had trusted inside her home had done that to her and that she no longer felt safe. It’s no different to you having a weekly cleaner who lent your door key to some toe rag, and me telling you that you had no right to be upset because I can’t afford a cleaner or a big tv or any of the other valuables that you had pinched.

Of course her stuff is going to be more expensive; she’s incredibly rich. But that doesn’t render her immune to the awful reality that someone has been rummaging through her personal possessions and that she can’t trust anyone around her. She wasn’t asking for sympathy that she had to wear her second best diamonds ffs.

It’s entirely possible to condemn the fact of the burglary, while at the same time having very little sympathy for people who keep so much very expensive jewellery in the house.

So, because she is wealthy and has nice jewellery, she deserves to have her home violated?

You don't have to have empathy if you don't want to. But what you're showing here is pure bitterness and it's just as ugly as "boasting". Work on yourself OP.

I haven't read the thread responses but what does it have to do with you what someone has in their safe? You are being unreasonable.

There is a difference between wealth and being a multimillionaire/billionaire. My brother earns 100k a year and has a nice 4 bed detached house and nice car. That is wealthy. But he doesn't have income to the point of have millions and millions of pounds to excess, which no one should have. He still has to save and think about his mortgage and childcare costs. Most people can't even comprehend how much a billion pounds is.

A billion pounds could fund all diagnostic tests across the NHS for a year. It could pay for Navy Frigates. It could fund hundreds of thousands of state pensions. I can't think of a single argument where you could justify that level of wealth.

I am angry at rich people because the likes of Rishi Sunak and his billionaire wife create laws to benefit the rich. People like Andrew Lloyd Webber hide wealth in farms. People hoard money offshore. It is wrong.

Actually, I would watch that. Buy not on ppw tbh

Above all, compassion.

Baddaybigcloud · Today 15:17

It is absolutely disgusting that anyone has 10m worth of jewellery. Vile

How much jewellery can someone own before it becomes ‘vile’?

Don't be daft, op. The thieves won't redistribute it to the needy; they will sell it to other thieves 🙄

Sure, that's a lot of jewellery, but then people have always had differing amounts of money. How much do you give to charity? How much did the jewellery owner give to charity? How much tax do you think Starbucks should pay? Should Elon Musk give all his money away?

The same stands for the likes of Elon Musk, Trump, etc. Who does anyone need to be a multimillionaire to the point of having 10 million pounds of jewellery? I can't think of any justifications.

Where do you draw the line?

Surely anyone who is earning above the minimum needed to survive is just hoarding wealth?

The point that many people miss is that the influencer / footballer / business owner that generates millions of pounds through whatever means isn’t taking money away from the homeless, the poor and those who are struggling (unless those individuals choose to prioritise a sky subscription over heating…)

So preventing them having that income doesn’t free up the millions to be spent on something else. Because the footballer wouldn’t play football, the influencer wouldn’t bother creating reels and the business owner owner wouldn’t bother setting up a business (incidentally creating jobs along the way). There’d be no money to redistribute.

It’s not, contrary to the thinking of some on the left/far left, a choice between £10m of jewellery (in this case) and feeding the poor. And given that, it then just comes down to creating an effective way of taxing the value created so that there is money to invest in public services, supporting the poor etc. But the footballer pays tax on their income, the business owner pays tax on the profit earned, on the people they employ, on the dividends extracted, on the income they take, and the influencer should be paying tax on their income too. Sure, you can still, for idealogical reasons only, go “I don’t like this, we should stop it” But then everyone ends up worse off.

Why does there need to be a justification? One person's money doesn't make another person poorer. If we all bought Teslas, Elon Musk would become even richer. But we wouldn't be poorer - in fact we'd be driving round in Teslas.

Who was the influencer?

Exactly this.

It's not like the £10m was going to be "redistributed" had she not purchased the jewellery.

The issue in this country is the utilities companies who exploit us, who raise their prices to line their own pockets, and who then refuse to pay their fair share of taxes.

Influencers don't promote Thames Water, footballers don't play with British Gas smothered across their fronts.

Most footballers are regular lads living their dreams, influencers have to work (to some extent) to get their platform.

I'll think you will find the football association does not run the day to day operations of the Premier League. Each club is an independent business. The FA gets it income from broadcasting the rights to internationals and the FA cup.

@AvidBee how is it not the same thing? Both were victims of a crime either that is bad or it isn’t? And it’s very rare to find someone with a multi million pound fortune that won’t have had adverse impact on others in obtaining said fortune.

I mentioned a slippery slope. I’m using an IPad, it’s likely children have been injured or died in the creation of Apple products. What about workers who make my goods for pittance & who have shorter lives than me? What about my carbon footprint and the impact of climate change in parts of Africa where they are suffering droughts. Do any of these victims have a legitimate case for wanting me to suffer?

I've lived in Ethiopia. I remember not having clean drinking water.

I've been homeless in Canada as a teenager.

I have worked multiple jobs while going to school and became fairly successful.

I also married a man who accumulated wealth while we were married.

No matter who you are there will always be people who have more than you, and people who have less than you.

Someone had a crime committed against them.

I've been robbed at 19 and broke living in a bachelor apartment in a dicey area in New York.

I've been robbed as a well off 35 yo in LA.

Both times felt horrifically violating.