Page 10 | Zero sympathy for people who had £10 million worth of jewellery stolen

TwoCreamEggs · 2024-12-31T13:48:48+00:00

People are struggling to heat their homes, feed their kids and pay their rent - whilst this 'millionaire influencer' has £10 million worth of jewellery stashed in a safe at home - I find this morally abhorrent and have zero sympathy. They have so little insight and social conscience that they feel it appropriate to flash jewellery and other signs of huge wealth all over social media. I'm glad no-one was injured obviously but hope the stolen jewellery is used to re-distribute some of their enormous wealth.

WigglyVonWaggly · 31/12/2024 16:16

I’m not materialistic and don’t envy wealthy people so I felt sorry for the anonymous victim until I saw an article with pictures identifying them. Good grief - it was repulsive. Absolute greed, narcissism, shallow materialism. A social media account with nothing but endless photos with carefully placed Hermes and Chanel bags, her Rolls Royce and Cartier diamonds. It was more what it said about her as a person - her entire identity revolves around accumulating things and showing off. So if she learns anything, may it be that material things are never permanent and there’s no need to boast about wealth to that sort of extent.

Movingbutstandingstill · 31/12/2024 16:16

Regardless of what’s stolen or someone’s worth, being burgled is horrible. The emotional side is similar regardless of someone’s bank account.

Sasskitty · 31/12/2024 16:17

Do you love the new VAT on education rule too? Same sort of principle. Taking money from the wealthy so who cares.

Although that really does punish the not quite wealthy enough, rather than the extremely wealthy. All the same to you? Or are some wealthy people less deserved than others?

Cattery · 31/12/2024 16:17

Ladamesansmerci · 31/12/2024 16:05

Because in the UK, the bottom 50% of people own less than 5% of the wealth. That is an obscene statistic. The richest 1% of the world owns nearly 50% of the worlds assets. If everyone lived comfortably across the world, this wouldn't need justifying. But they don't.

Billionaires exploit tax loop holes, and pay low wages, to maximise their own wealth at the expense of public interest. It literally does make us poorer. Billionaires are taxed at competitively low rates compared to average worker, who pay more to compensate. More tax on then would save trillions.

Billionaires also contribute significantly more to carbon emissions and global warming.

If you truly don't think it's wrong that an elite few own the vast majority of wealth is immoral idk what else to say.

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Katbum · 31/12/2024 16:17

WilfredsPies · 31/12/2024 15:46

Why are you ignoring the concept that it’s all relative?

I think I remember her being slightly more upset that someone she had trusted inside her home had done that to her and that she no longer felt safe. It’s no different to you having a weekly cleaner who lent your door key to some toe rag, and me telling you that you had no right to be upset because I can’t afford a cleaner or a big tv or any of the other valuables that you had pinched.

Of course her stuff is going to be more expensive; she’s incredibly rich. But that doesn’t render her immune to the awful reality that someone has been rummaging through her personal possessions and that she can’t trust anyone around her. She wasn’t asking for sympathy that she had to wear her second best diamonds ffs.

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I thought the documentary was ridiculous, a waste of taxpayer money and I didn't feel at all sorry for her. I don't care what happens to over privileged Tamara Ecclestone. I am not her friend or family. I think it is obscene we live in a society where she can live in a fifty room mansion surrounded by oppulence and my mentally ill relative is left to die in the cold and rain because the council are too broken to house him. I have spent today ringing and writing to the council because after multiple upheld complaints, failed safeguarding reports and many weeks over the mandatory time, my relative remains sleeping in the cold, too ill and dangerous to be housed by family. I don't expect Tamara's sympathy for my family's misfortune and I certainly won't get public sympathy or social change given the pathetic 'the rich are people too' responses on here. The fact that you are so willing to bleed at the heart for a billionaire who will have their wealth replaced by insurance and really has suffered nothing in life is very telling about how the world is in the state it is.

Sinkintotheswamp · 31/12/2024 16:17

It will be sold to other criminals. The Hermes bag is way too distinctive for a regular person to use.

The thief will be someone with inside knowledge anyway.

OnlyDespairRemains · 31/12/2024 16:18

DeffoNeedANameChange · 31/12/2024 16:12

Where do you draw the line? Is there anyone in the world who is less well off than you? If so, should you redistribute any extra you have until you're on a level with the very poorest?

Rhetorical question BTW. I know that the line is drawn about 20k ahead of wherever you happen to be.

Let's reverse it then. Should there be no line at all? Should we just keep letting the gap get wider and wider, as has been the case for the last 40 years or so?

Is it OK for some people to have wealth that they cannot possibly need or even spend while others die from preventable illnesses or a lack of social care due to a lack of funding in the same country?

mumedu · 31/12/2024 16:19

lover99 · 31/12/2024 15:01

I am with you and I would not be appealing to people for sympathy after this. This is pure greed. I have to wonder why one would not simply rent the necklace for an event and use the 10mil excess for charitable causes.

These people flexed their wealth online and paid the price when it was taken from them. Robbers would not have known to target them. Gluttony and pride are deadly sins.

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So is envy.

Strikeoutnow · 31/12/2024 16:20

Having said that I do think it is possible to talk about the impact of wealth inequality and reduced social mobility without having to be 100% ethically perfect as that isn’t possible. And me using an iPad doesn’t put me up there with the tech billionaires but I do think a crime is a crime no matter how unsavoury the victim is so it is a slippery slope.

lover99 · 31/12/2024 16:20

mumedu · 31/12/2024 16:19

So is envy.

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Implying anyone would be jealous of someone being publicly humiliated online for being a contemptible out of touch glutton lol

RisingSunn · 31/12/2024 16:20

Privacynotguaranteed · 31/12/2024 16:15

Smart phone are pretty essential in modern society. Mined diamonds and crocodile bags, not so much.

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Wait..so the use of child labour is acceptable when creating a smartphone - because they are available to the masses.

But child labour becomes unethical when used for products aimed at the rich.

It just doesn’t make sense.

coldcallerbaiter · 31/12/2024 16:20

Nerdlings · 31/12/2024 14:13

“Serves them right” is just one step away from “she was asking for it”.

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Exactly. It is like saying a woman is too beautiful to be resisted.

If the person earns or inherited the jewellery fair and square, then why is it ok to steal it from them. It might be their security instead of money in the bank.

Strikeoutnow · 31/12/2024 16:21

“Serves them right” is just one step away from “she was asking for it”.

Good point

AvidBee · 31/12/2024 16:21

Strikeoutnow · 31/12/2024 16:20

Having said that I do think it is possible to talk about the impact of wealth inequality and reduced social mobility without having to be 100% ethically perfect as that isn’t possible. And me using an iPad doesn’t put me up there with the tech billionaires but I do think a crime is a crime no matter how unsavoury the victim is so it is a slippery slope.

I just think it's interesting that the discussion always centres around the people who are more well off than that particular person.

For example, I make minimum wage. Does that mean anyone earning above me is wrong? No, of course not.

justasking111 · 31/12/2024 16:22

Having been burgled. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. A distressing experience

LivingDeadGirlUK · 31/12/2024 16:23

Thieves are thieves, they will happily have your meagre possession as much as a big haul thats going to be hard to shift.

I imagine you would be miffed if the rich said they weren't bothered about you being burgled because you only had a few grands worth of stuff nicked.

DeffoNeedANameChange · 31/12/2024 16:24

OnlyDespairRemains · 31/12/2024 16:18

Let's reverse it then. Should there be no line at all? Should we just keep letting the gap get wider and wider, as has been the case for the last 40 years or so?

Is it OK for some people to have wealth that they cannot possibly need or even spend while others die from preventable illnesses or a lack of social care due to a lack of funding in the same country?

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Well, that's what tax is, isn't it? According to the Sunday Times rich list, the top 50 tax payers paid £2bn in tax last year.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 31/12/2024 16:24

Strikeoutnow · 31/12/2024 16:05

The point that many people miss is that the influencer / footballer / business owner that generates millions of pounds through whatever means isn’t taking money away from the homeless, the poor and those who are struggling (unless those individuals choose to prioritise a sky subscription over heating…)

What about business owners who take from their staff? Not illegal but certainly not ethical.

Take what from their staff?

OnlyDespairRemains · 31/12/2024 16:25

DeffoNeedANameChange · 31/12/2024 16:24

Well, that's what tax is, isn't it? According to the Sunday Times rich list, the top 50 tax payers paid £2bn in tax last year.

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Well it's not working very well then is it? Otherwise the wealth gap would be closing, not widening.

socks1107 · 31/12/2024 16:26

I've been burgled and it's a horrible experience that stays with you.
I have enormous empathy whatever was stolen and despite their wealth

NetZeroZealot · 31/12/2024 16:26

EmmaMaria · 31/12/2024 15:26

You really should elaborate - the Crown jewels - just the crown jewels - are thought to be worth up to £5 BILLION in value. Are we advocating depriving the royal family of their wealth. "Influencers" may do very little to earn their wealth. The Royal family have done nothing to earn theirs.

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I’m pretty sure the crown jewels belong to the state not to the individual members of the RF.
They are kept in a museum and only used on state occasions.
i don’t think the King could sell them even if he wanted to.

brunettemic · 31/12/2024 16:26

Presumably you love your life in a bare minimum sort of way and redistribute the remainder to others? I take it you have no luxuries of any form?

Strikeoutnow · 31/12/2024 16:26

@AvidBee I don’t understanding why you are replying to my posts? I have repeatedly said on this thread that people are still victims even if they are richer than me or if they are the wrong type of victim. You disagreed & said Brian Thompson deserved to be murdered whilst agreeing with my point that other rich people don’t deserve to be victims of crime. 😆

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm · 31/12/2024 16:27

OnlyDespairRemains · 31/12/2024 16:25

Well it's not working very well then is it? Otherwise the wealth gap would be closing, not widening.

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Are you ignoring the other end of the spectrum that’s also responsible for the gap widening? Of people not pursuing education, not pursuing good jobs, not working hard, not going back to work after bearing children, etc etc?

OnlyDespairRemains · 31/12/2024 16:28

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm · 31/12/2024 16:27

Are you ignoring the other end of the spectrum that’s also responsible for the gap widening? Of people not pursuing education, not pursuing good jobs, not working hard, not going back to work after bearing children, etc etc?

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Fairly much, because it's almost negligible in comparison.