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Can't help but be jealous

108 replies

Lemon92 · 29/12/2024 23:34

Im a single parent to one DD, she is nearly 5. Love her to bits but I do long for another DC and she wants a sibling too, she is always asking for one and she would love the company of a sibling. My Dfriend of many years is a single parent and has a 6 yr old, 3 yr old and a very new newborn. She is not with the girls father but she does go back with him to get pregnant so they all have the same dad and then they seperate when she gets the positive test. I can't help but be jealous in a way as I wish for more DC but I can't see it happening. I'm late 20s. Anyone know how I can get past this feeling?

OP posts:
YourGladSquid · 30/12/2024 14:00

I know she has had some bad experiences in her previous job 6 years ago

I suspect she was the bad experience lol. The last person we had at my workplace that had a “poor me they were so mean” attitude ended up being bonkers and punching a coworker at ours.

MummytoE · 30/12/2024 14:03

If you're daughter is currently 5 she would be at least six by the time her sibling is born, that's quite a gap and I don't think they would be as close friends as you think. Also if like your friends situation there is no father around , then she may actually resent this new sibling who is taking pretty much all your attention and time

DowntonCrabbie · 30/12/2024 14:07

Bad experience like having to actually work.

Dishwashersaurous · 30/12/2024 14:31

Surely this is a wind up.

No one could honestly think the situation being described as the friend is in anyway a positive or desirable situation.

Just on the off chance that this is real then you absolutely need new friends and raise your expectations

Lemon92 · 30/12/2024 14:54

Definitely not a wind up. It’s just the seeing her with her 3 girls all close in age and they’re all cuddling with the new baby. everyone commenting how blessed and what a beautiful family they are. I would love another child and I suppose just jealous that it’s not that simple

OP posts:
FreedFromDesireMindAndSensesPurified · 30/12/2024 14:59

Lemon92 · 30/12/2024 12:39

So basically he rarely sees the oldest and second child. (6 and 3 year old). He was at their birth but they were not actually together. They separated as soon as the positive test came and he sees them rarely and makes excuses. Apparently he didn’t even get them any Christmas presents. The new baby, he wasn’t present at the birth. My friend is happy with the arrangement because they don’t work as a couple and apparently he’s not a nice person but she knows him and whenever she wants more children, she just goes back to him until she gets pregnant and he’s ok with it too.

Aspirational.

YourGladSquid · 30/12/2024 15:06

Lemon92 · 30/12/2024 14:54

Definitely not a wind up. It’s just the seeing her with her 3 girls all close in age and they’re all cuddling with the new baby. everyone commenting how blessed and what a beautiful family they are. I would love another child and I suppose just jealous that it’s not that simple

@Lemon92 I don’t know how to ask this in a nice way, but who are these “everyone” that keep complimenting this situation? Is what she’s doing a normal/acceptable thing in your circle? Maybe that’s the issue.

Whats going to happen to her kids once they grow up and she doesn’t have gov money to keep her going? My WP had a mother like that and she pretty much left them to fend for themselves once it dried up.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 30/12/2024 15:06

FreedFromDesireMindAndSensesPurified · 30/12/2024 14:59

Aspirational.

This genuinely made me guffaw.

Comedycook · 30/12/2024 15:07

Lemon92 · 30/12/2024 14:54

Definitely not a wind up. It’s just the seeing her with her 3 girls all close in age and they’re all cuddling with the new baby. everyone commenting how blessed and what a beautiful family they are. I would love another child and I suppose just jealous that it’s not that simple

It's that simple because she has low standards.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 30/12/2024 15:08

Lemon92 · 30/12/2024 14:54

Definitely not a wind up. It’s just the seeing her with her 3 girls all close in age and they’re all cuddling with the new baby. everyone commenting how blessed and what a beautiful family they are. I would love another child and I suppose just jealous that it’s not that simple

Oh, for goodness sake. You’ve described an absolute shitshow. If you’re ’jealous’ of this, you really need to self reflect. Because what the actual fuck?!

You’re in your 20’s. There is absolutely no reason you can’t have another child. Stop being ridiculous and go live your life.

BettyBardMacDonald · 30/12/2024 15:56

Dishwashersaurous · 30/12/2024 14:31

Surely this is a wind up.

No one could honestly think the situation being described as the friend is in anyway a positive or desirable situation.

Just on the off chance that this is real then you absolutely need new friends and raise your expectations

This.

For god's sake, they are people, not dolls. Do you think being born into that dysfunctional, disadvantaged shitshow is positive or healthy?

It's antisocial and they'll probably just perpetuate the toxic cycle. I despair sometimes.

Lemon92 · 30/12/2024 17:04

YourGladSquid · 30/12/2024 15:06

@Lemon92 I don’t know how to ask this in a nice way, but who are these “everyone” that keep complimenting this situation? Is what she’s doing a normal/acceptable thing in your circle? Maybe that’s the issue.

Whats going to happen to her kids once they grow up and she doesn’t have gov money to keep her going? My WP had a mother like that and she pretty much left them to fend for themselves once it dried up.

No I don’t know anyone else in that situation. Just her family etc saying it

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RealGreyOrca · 30/12/2024 17:11

I don’t think what your friend does is ideal, but they are adults and have made their choices. You could in theory go out and find a ‘sperm donor’ if you’re desperate for another child and don’t care about being a single parent…it wouldn’t be my choice though.

VegTrug · 30/12/2024 17:23

@RogueFemale I hated not having a father, mother / normal family. And just being this miserably small 'family unit'. It was lonely and horrible.

Why the actual fuck would you come on here and say something like that when you know full well that there's widows on here (like myself) who had no option of having a subsequent children due to their husbands DYING.

How unbelievably nasty of you to hurt & make to feel guilty, hundreds of mothers, if not thousands just to make a point. Breathtakingly thoughtless & selfish

VegTrug · 30/12/2024 17:25

NewYorkherewecome · 30/12/2024 07:51

Don’t have another child unless you can afford to support them without the need of benefits.

Where did OP say she was on benefits!?

YourGladSquid · 30/12/2024 17:28

@VegTrug you’re reaching

pimplebum · 30/12/2024 17:30

Have you thought about fostering you get
£1400 a month and a ton of hardworking/ satisfaction
I used to foster years ago and I’d love to do it again

WalterdelaMare · 30/12/2024 17:31

That seems like a very strange situation to be envious of. Seems utterly irresponsible too.

VegTrug · 30/12/2024 17:33

YourGladSquid · 30/12/2024 17:28

@VegTrug you’re reaching

I'm not 'reaching' for anything. Mentioning a family set up that many, many people find themselves in after a death and saying "it was miserable" is no different than someone saying "my parents were two gay men/two women/disabled and it was miserable" - none of which would be tolerated.

VegTrug · 30/12/2024 17:38

I think a lot of you are intentionally missing OP's point. I read it that she's not saying she's envious of the 'getting back with an ex in order to get pregnant so she doesn't have to work' aspect. It's the having 3 siblings so close together and not having to go through the 'dating whilst a single parent' minefield, then once you’ve finally met someone, dating them for a year before introducing them to current DC then building the relationship long enough to reach the stage of starting to try for a baby etc etc’ in order to be able to achieve another child. I can totally relate to this feeling of wishing I could have another DC without having to go through all of that. I am however, not envious of OP’s friend!

I'm a widowed single parent and dating when your DC doesn't go to their other parent X days per week and is therefore with you every single day, is a lot tougher than it sounds.

CrispyCrumpets · 30/12/2024 17:42

I bet the friend's setup isn't that unusual considering the stigma that comes with having kids with different dads.

OP read what everyone is saying here. The life of your friend and her children is not enviable my any right thinking person's standards. Concentrate on giving you and your daughter the best possible life you can. You are still young and will be a much more attractive option to a decent fella if you have your shit together without a whole brood and some POS ex waiting on the sidelines.

Comedycook · 30/12/2024 17:48

VegTrug · 30/12/2024 17:38

I think a lot of you are intentionally missing OP's point. I read it that she's not saying she's envious of the 'getting back with an ex in order to get pregnant so she doesn't have to work' aspect. It's the having 3 siblings so close together and not having to go through the 'dating whilst a single parent' minefield, then once you’ve finally met someone, dating them for a year before introducing them to current DC then building the relationship long enough to reach the stage of starting to try for a baby etc etc’ in order to be able to achieve another child. I can totally relate to this feeling of wishing I could have another DC without having to go through all of that. I am however, not envious of OP’s friend!

I'm a widowed single parent and dating when your DC doesn't go to their other parent X days per week and is therefore with you every single day, is a lot tougher than it sounds.

Edited

Yes but anyone can get themselves knocked up by some loser...that's hardly an achievement or very difficult.

Waiting to meet a decent man to potentially have another child with is of course much harder and takes longer...but is the better option.

If the op lowered her standards enough she took can achieve the remarkable feat of getting pregnant by a useless bloke

YourGladSquid · 30/12/2024 17:59

@VegTrug I’ve also become a single parent after being widowed and yet nothing that the PP said was some personal offence against single parents, she just shared her experience and what it felt like to her.

Personally, my DD enjoys being an only child. If anything she’d be pissed off to share the spotlight.

I was worried for a while but having siblings is no guarantee they’ll get along and frankly my most successful friends are all coincidentally only children. Only children develop their own ways of dealing with it, it’s not the end of the world. Certainly better than multiple children with a struggling single parent.

MummytoE · 30/12/2024 20:42

VegTrug · 30/12/2024 17:33

I'm not 'reaching' for anything. Mentioning a family set up that many, many people find themselves in after a death and saying "it was miserable" is no different than someone saying "my parents were two gay men/two women/disabled and it was miserable" - none of which would be tolerated.

Ok, but you're definitely reaching

Marine30 · 30/12/2024 20:46

YourGladSquid · 30/12/2024 00:40

She is not with the girls father but she does go back with him to get pregnant so they all have the same dad and then they seperate when she gets the positive test.

I… is this a common thing? I don’t think there’s anything here to be jealous about lol

I know - it sounds like the animal kingdom not the real world. Not the best role model 😳.