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My husband is acting is strangely

318 replies

Deppcandouno · 29/12/2024 21:11

My husband is acting in a very depressive manner and is reading bizarre meaning into things like adverts. He is also saying phrases that don’t make any sense like ‘we need to level up like super Mario’ and expecting that what he has said is normal. He keeps disappearing to do household jobs and is gone for an hour but has no recollection of what he has been doing. He has said he is concerned about his mental health and feels he meets the criteria to be sectioned. What do I do? Pl ease help.

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jimmyateworld · 30/12/2024 06:56

I thought seriously mentally unwell people lacked insight so the fact op husband says he thinks he should be sectioned doesn't seem right

DahliaRose3 · 30/12/2024 07:02

Best of luck. A parent of mine started acting strangely on and of when I was a teen. Unbeknownst to us, it was mania which lead to psychosis as it was left untreated. Very odd behaviour, then they would be normal for a while and it went downhill rapidly. By the time we got help things had escalated significantly and it took about a year to get treated as by that point they refused to see any doctors or take meds.

GeekyDiva80 · 30/12/2024 07:11

oakleaffy · 30/12/2024 02:58

Sounds like you aren't in UK.

People with mental breakdowns/psychosis here probably get a bed on a crowded ward if lucky.

A friend I knew years ago was withdrawing off high dose methadone, was put in a ''mental hospital'' and discharged herself as it was so wretched.

Shared ward and the poor thing looked like a wraith after self discharge.

Certainly no holiday , and that was last century, when funding in England was better.

I'm not in the UK. Private clinics are covered by medical aid and all you need is a referral from a psychiatrist in order for your medical aid to cover it. The clinics provide counseling, massages, gym, medication and 3 course meals. Private room with a TV. There's a games room for the patients and a lounge area, plus swimming pools. I have lived in the UK, but was never hospitalized there, only here, so I'm not sure how they compare with ours. I only mentioned this as they are seen as an escape from life if you will. One lady I met when I was hospitalized takes 2 weeks a year leave to stay in a clinic to get away and relax.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 30/12/2024 07:16

YesIdolovehim · 30/12/2024 00:46

A lot of people who are a danger to themselves do not even get sectioned these days.
I agree that it is worth going private if you can, although I’m not sure whether private hospitals like the Priory will take seriously mentally ill patients privately. IMO they refer to the NHS crisis team for assessment in those cases.

I don't know about the Priory but a friend was sectioned with psychosis in a private hospital

hazelnutvanillalatte · 30/12/2024 07:21

CrowleyKitten · 30/12/2024 01:35

it absolutely DOES exist. when people recognise they need that level of help.
wasn't the case for my husband, he was section 28, detained under the mental health act. can't remember the coding for it now, but voluntary sectioning IS a thing. or, at least it was in the late 2000s.

Yes, idk if sectioning is the same as hospitalisation, but if so voluntary sectioning is still a thing

hazelnutvanillalatte · 30/12/2024 07:22

jimmyateworld · 30/12/2024 06:56

I thought seriously mentally unwell people lacked insight so the fact op husband says he thinks he should be sectioned doesn't seem right

That's not a black and white rule. Insight can fluctuate. A friend was talking about angels and demons one minute, and saying it was a mental health episode the next.

Maurora · 30/12/2024 08:46

sunshinestar1986 · 30/12/2024 05:19

I agree 💯
I've seen quite a few mentally ill patients and they're all adamant that they are fine

It’s an incredible journey, but I wouldn’t recommend it, or wish it on my worst enemy.

Even in the depths of acute psychosis, when the radio is talking to you, and you think people’s earrings are listening devices for the police, to entrap you it seems real. When you drive a 6” nail into the back of your hand because you think you’re dead, then decide to run the 18 miles from hospital to your home… It seems real, even when the police try to take you back at 2am, but you’re deemed to have capacity, so you jog off into the night really poorly, but seemingly ‘with it’.

The irony is that my exe’s best friend 30 who ran a team of Social Workers developed psychosis this year and had to start taking antipsychotics and benzodiazepines. My best friend 55 who also ran a team of Social Workers but in the north developed psychosis this year too and was voluntarily admitted to hospital and is on a concoction of medication at the moment.

It can happen to literally anyone. It’s a living nightmare for the family and without immediate help can turn into a very dangerous situation very quickly…

JMSA · 30/12/2024 08:52

'Morning all

Has there been any word from the OP?

Lostcat · 30/12/2024 08:54

OP I hope you and your husband are doing ok this morning.

Im so sorry you got so much abuse on this thread when you were just looking for insight and support!

rogueone · 30/12/2024 09:50

Sounds stressful all round. It’s clear something is wrong and it may be mental health or could be a physical health issue causing the changes. If you’re not sure what to do call the GP this morning. They could do a home visit

Deppcandouno · 30/12/2024 09:51

Morning to those who were genuinely wanting to help rather than berate. I’m currently in the phone queue for the crisis team. I suspect mumsnet is populated by some very kind people and then some other idiots who should never be allowed to give anyone advice in times of crisis. I hope the measure they use for others, comes back on them 10 fold.

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Butteryscone · 30/12/2024 09:57

Please ask them if this could be encephalitis.

YourGladSquid · 30/12/2024 09:57

Imagine starting the day wishing ill on other people, how odd.

I hope your DH gets help soon, OP - psychosis is no joke but with the right help he’ll be okay.

MferMonsterSearchingForRedemption · 30/12/2024 10:01

There is no voluntarily 'section'.

You can be an informal patient. That means the patient has agreed to go to hospital for treatment, are able to refuse treatment etc. However, if someone isn't complying with treatment and are going to leave the ward but there are concerns for theirs or others safety, you can be detained under Section 5 (holding power) until a Mental Health Act Assessment is completed, where you then might be detained under S2 or S3.

My husband has just came home from a 16 week hospital admission, and still in and out of psychosis. The trauma we are going through as a family is severe and I would not wish this on my worst enemy. I don't think any of us will be the same again. I hope you got your husband help last night, OP. Leaving him as you did last night was neglectful in the sense that if it's physical anything could have happened and if it is psychosis it could have resulted in a very dangerous situation. An ambulance should have been called at the very least. I hope he is receiving help now at least. I know that sounds hard, but psychosis is an emergency.

YesIdolovehim · 30/12/2024 10:04

MferMonsterSearchingForRedemption · 30/12/2024 10:01

There is no voluntarily 'section'.

You can be an informal patient. That means the patient has agreed to go to hospital for treatment, are able to refuse treatment etc. However, if someone isn't complying with treatment and are going to leave the ward but there are concerns for theirs or others safety, you can be detained under Section 5 (holding power) until a Mental Health Act Assessment is completed, where you then might be detained under S2 or S3.

My husband has just came home from a 16 week hospital admission, and still in and out of psychosis. The trauma we are going through as a family is severe and I would not wish this on my worst enemy. I don't think any of us will be the same again. I hope you got your husband help last night, OP. Leaving him as you did last night was neglectful in the sense that if it's physical anything could have happened and if it is psychosis it could have resulted in a very dangerous situation. An ambulance should have been called at the very least. I hope he is receiving help now at least. I know that sounds hard, but psychosis is an emergency.

Edited

Thank you! A voluntary section is an oxymoron.
It’s scary how some other people on this thread have been spouting rubbish as if they are experts on the subject.

HyggeTygge · 30/12/2024 10:08

It’s scary how some other people on this thread have been spouting rubbish as if they are experts on the subject.

Unfortunately it's most threads these days. I'm never quite sure if they know they're talking rubbish but enjoy pretending they are right to wind up the thread/ mislead the OP, or whether this many people are genuinely incapable of knowing (or caring enough to check) whether what they say is right or not.

OP, best of luck. It's hard to know what to do when you're getting "advice" from all angles!

Tahlbias · 30/12/2024 10:08

I really do hope that your husband gets the help he needs. Mumsnet is full of judgemental characters and others who are genuinely helpful and concerned. Rise above the judgey characters. Good luck

MferMonsterSearchingForRedemption · 30/12/2024 10:09

Lostcat · 30/12/2024 01:34

what exactly do you think 111 are going to be able to do to help him?

Have you ever rung 111 with this kind of issue? Have you personally dealt with a situation like this?

As long as OP can keep him safe tonight, it can wait until the morning

111 option 2 is the mental health line.

I have called them plenty of times. For my husband and professionally.

They can indeed help. The mental health nurses can do a brief assessment over the phone and refer to the Crisis Team for a start. The mental health line is run by MH professionals.

Deppcandouno · 30/12/2024 10:11

YourGladSquid · 30/12/2024 09:57

Imagine starting the day wishing ill on other people, how odd.

I hope your DH gets help soon, OP - psychosis is no joke but with the right help he’ll be okay.

Not odd. Proportionate given the ill intentioned nature of some of the comments.

I’m number 1 in the queue to speak to the crisis team

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Member984815 · 30/12/2024 10:11

Fingers crossed you get the right kind of help soon, it sounds scary for all of you.

crackinghead · 30/12/2024 10:13

I hope you get the help he needs. I have had to take my DH to a&e twice due to similar behaviour. Thankfully he was willing to go as he had enough insight to realise he was unwell.

I found them to be very good in a crisis, not so good afterwards, MIND however were great, so do try and get support from every direction.

MWNA · 30/12/2024 10:36

"I’m number 1 in the queue to speak to the crisis team"

Thinking of you and really hope they're helpful. I feel for you all. Mental illness can turn a family upside down

GreyAreas · 30/12/2024 10:42

OP, if the crisis team are useless then do insist on his GP seeing him, they can rule out stuff and get him assessed by the mental health team.
He's unlikely to be admitted or sectioned, honestly, just because those things barely exist in reality in the UK any more, they are kind of a mirage, existing in imagination only.
Make a full list of any co-occurring physical symptoms, recent events or illnesses, drugs or medicines and be a detective, don't let anyone put it all down to mental health until physical illness is ruled out.

Fraaances · 30/12/2024 10:46

I hope you get the help you both need. It’s really frightening when a loved one suddenly isn’t themself anymore. It’s really hard to know when to step in because they’re not well enough to advocate for themself.

DuckDuckG00se · 30/12/2024 10:53

jimmyateworld · 30/12/2024 06:56

I thought seriously mentally unwell people lacked insight so the fact op husband says he thinks he should be sectioned doesn't seem right

Not all of them, don't use this as a blanket rule if you ever encounter someone in a mental health crisis. I've been involved with a few who recognised, as far as they were able to (one was nearly completely uncommunicative),that they were deeply unwell /something was very wrong with them.

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