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My husband is acting is strangely

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Deppcandouno · 29/12/2024 21:11

My husband is acting in a very depressive manner and is reading bizarre meaning into things like adverts. He is also saying phrases that don’t make any sense like ‘we need to level up like super Mario’ and expecting that what he has said is normal. He keeps disappearing to do household jobs and is gone for an hour but has no recollection of what he has been doing. He has said he is concerned about his mental health and feels he meets the criteria to be sectioned. What do I do? Pl ease help.

OP posts:
Deppcandouno · 30/12/2024 10:56

We have a clinician call back in an hour.

OP posts:
CatsBeCrazy · 30/12/2024 11:05

Yeah mine was because I had postpartum Psychosis
I have had quite a few relapses in the 9years I've had him if my anxiety is bad aswell . It deteriorates quite rapidly. I could be lucid to ill within seconds of eachother . My partner tried everything phoning the doctors , driving me down to the doctors , doctors trying to coax me out of the car (I didn't trust them) in the end he had to phone the police crying because I jumped of the wall they then called an ambulance. That's why it's really important to get him there when still lucid . Its not nice when police come into your home like your a criminal when you already don't trust anyone 😭

CatsBeCrazy · 30/12/2024 11:13

Good luck Op , hope he now gets the help he needs x

Lostcat · 30/12/2024 11:26

Deppcandouno · 30/12/2024 10:56

We have a clinician call back in an hour.

That's great OP, I really hope they can get him the right support. It must be so scary for you x

Nc261224 · 30/12/2024 11:37

Good luck @Deppcandouno!
I hope your DP and you get help quickly!
You have to push for help sometimes, don't let them to fob you off.

Yhe person I was helping managed somehow to seem normalish during appointment (happens apparently) but deteriorated quickly afterwards. Thankfully it all happened in A&E and she received the help she needed.

Maurora · 30/12/2024 11:47

YesIdolovehim · 30/12/2024 10:04

Thank you! A voluntary section is an oxymoron.
It’s scary how some other people on this thread have been spouting rubbish as if they are experts on the subject.

Look... I've been in hospital twice for 28 days at a time. Both times were 'voluntary' as I went willingly but I wasn't allowed to leave for a few weeks, so it was a section 5. Just because I don't know the NHS Googled terminology of what each section means or how it's implemented, doesn't mean you should be cruel or scared about someone else's experiences and understanding of what happened to them during acute psychosis.

My ex partner had no idea what to do. She didn't call the police or an ambulance, it took a friend/social worker to suggest the CRISIS team. Until it affects you and your family, most ppl don't know what to do in that situation, especially with a young child (mine was nearly two at the time and asleep).

At the door when I was taken away it was deemed a voluntary admission with a section 5 from the point the doors closed behind me in the mental hospital in less than an hour from leaving my front door.

You're right, I'm wrong. Life's too short to argue about semantics.

Really pleased to hear that the OP is in touch with the CRISIS team.

This is a rude awakening for my first time on Mumsnet - proceed with caution :/

YesIdolovehim · 30/12/2024 11:57

Maurora · 30/12/2024 11:47

Look... I've been in hospital twice for 28 days at a time. Both times were 'voluntary' as I went willingly but I wasn't allowed to leave for a few weeks, so it was a section 5. Just because I don't know the NHS Googled terminology of what each section means or how it's implemented, doesn't mean you should be cruel or scared about someone else's experiences and understanding of what happened to them during acute psychosis.

My ex partner had no idea what to do. She didn't call the police or an ambulance, it took a friend/social worker to suggest the CRISIS team. Until it affects you and your family, most ppl don't know what to do in that situation, especially with a young child (mine was nearly two at the time and asleep).

At the door when I was taken away it was deemed a voluntary admission with a section 5 from the point the doors closed behind me in the mental hospital in less than an hour from leaving my front door.

You're right, I'm wrong. Life's too short to argue about semantics.

Really pleased to hear that the OP is in touch with the CRISIS team.

This is a rude awakening for my first time on Mumsnet - proceed with caution :/

It isn’t just semantics though and it doesn’t help anyone going through a MH crisis to give them blatantly incorrect information.
I wish you all the best and I’m pleased that the OP is in touch with the crisis team. Hopefully her DH can get the help he needs.

CatsBeCrazy · 30/12/2024 11:58

My DP has the crisis team number now if I'm acting out of sorts. They have also told me to phone them if I need to talk.It's just a shame it's so many people that come out though as I found that really hard . So I find it easier talking to my GP instead

MferMonsterSearchingForRedemption · 30/12/2024 12:21

Maurora · 30/12/2024 11:47

Look... I've been in hospital twice for 28 days at a time. Both times were 'voluntary' as I went willingly but I wasn't allowed to leave for a few weeks, so it was a section 5. Just because I don't know the NHS Googled terminology of what each section means or how it's implemented, doesn't mean you should be cruel or scared about someone else's experiences and understanding of what happened to them during acute psychosis.

My ex partner had no idea what to do. She didn't call the police or an ambulance, it took a friend/social worker to suggest the CRISIS team. Until it affects you and your family, most ppl don't know what to do in that situation, especially with a young child (mine was nearly two at the time and asleep).

At the door when I was taken away it was deemed a voluntary admission with a section 5 from the point the doors closed behind me in the mental hospital in less than an hour from leaving my front door.

You're right, I'm wrong. Life's too short to argue about semantics.

Really pleased to hear that the OP is in touch with the CRISIS team.

This is a rude awakening for my first time on Mumsnet - proceed with caution :/

Section 5 would only allow you to be detained for up to 72 hours whilst waiting for an assessment under the Mental Health Act. At that point, you would either be detained under a S2 (up to 28 days) or a S3 (up to 6 months), or they would have to let you leave.

If you were on a section 5 for a few weeks that is unlawful and would not have happened. A S5 is holding powers only, until a patient can be assessed properly.

It's not semantics. The MHA is a strict piece of legislation, and no one is on a Section 5 for a few weeks.

What can and does happen- but never should, is informal patients can be told that if they try to leave the ward they will be sectioned. This can lead to patients complying, so a 'de facto detention' that should never happen and is unlawful.

Scutterbug · 30/12/2024 12:53

Thinking of you both today. I hope he gets the help he needs today. Be aware that MH services are really stretched so getting the support can be hard.

BigMingeEnergy · 30/12/2024 12:56

Thank goodness you finally got him help op.

I hope he gets the help he needs.

Maurora · 30/12/2024 12:58

MferMonsterSearchingForRedemption · 30/12/2024 12:21

Section 5 would only allow you to be detained for up to 72 hours whilst waiting for an assessment under the Mental Health Act. At that point, you would either be detained under a S2 (up to 28 days) or a S3 (up to 6 months), or they would have to let you leave.

If you were on a section 5 for a few weeks that is unlawful and would not have happened. A S5 is holding powers only, until a patient can be assessed properly.

It's not semantics. The MHA is a strict piece of legislation, and no one is on a Section 5 for a few weeks.

What can and does happen- but never should, is informal patients can be told that if they try to leave the ward they will be sectioned. This can lead to patients complying, so a 'de facto detention' that should never happen and is unlawful.

I'm just a bloke who was unwell... Who recovered - I'm not an expert. This isn't an expert panel of GPs and MDs.

I was admitted voluntarily and then under a section 5. They didn't communicate with me the intricacies of the sequence of the regulation of how or why I was there and for how long and what changed and when. My partner became my registered carer... Where I was responsible for all things to do with bills, technology, upkeep of the vehicles etc that all fell onto my partner's shoulders. I had to request my medical records through a DSAR to work out what happened over the first year or so as I have no real recollection of events.

I'm not going to lay out the entire course of my mental health to answer every question on here. I tried to answer honestly from lived experience with regard to helping the OP. The slight error in what I thought I knew will not effect the help they receive... I didn't really want to divulge my own experiences in the vain hope that I'd be cut some slack lol

I had MHFA England training before I was ill, that was of little use when I fell ill myself. Being handed controlled medication by nurses when I was responsible for managing and administering controlled medication myself was ironic, to say the least.

I'm now a volunteer to help people with mental health issues, I'll be sure to amend my responses about voluntary sections. In conversation with others with lived experience within the peer group I'm part of, it's spoken about and never been contested. I'll be sure to mention the correct terminology when signposting.

Thank you for the clarification.

fishyrumour · 30/12/2024 13:50

Deppcandouno · 30/12/2024 10:56

We have a clinician call back in an hour.

Good luck OP. I hope he gets the help he needs.

Babbitbaddit · 30/12/2024 14:15

I hope it goes well for you and your family. Sounds like you’re trying your best in a difficult and scary situation

BusterGonad · 30/12/2024 14:32

Another stranger wishing your family good luck.

JFDIYOLO · 30/12/2024 15:59

Push for assessment for physical illness and don't be fobbed off with 'mental health"

Plastictrees · 30/12/2024 16:13

JFDIYOLO · 30/12/2024 15:59

Push for assessment for physical illness and don't be fobbed off with 'mental health"

What do you mean? He may indeed have a mental health condition, such as psychosis. There will be a thorough assessment.

enidblythe · 30/12/2024 17:45

Hoping your dh is getting look after with the right care and you are feeling supported.

Deppcandouno · 30/12/2024 18:16

We had a call from the GP and they have made an appointment for the 20th January.

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LawrenceSMarlowforPresident · 30/12/2024 18:24

Deppcandouno · 30/12/2024 18:16

We had a call from the GP and they have made an appointment for the 20th January.

Three weeks seems a very long wait if your DH is experiencing psychosis. Was the GP concerned about that at all?

Meem321 · 30/12/2024 18:32

My friend's husband made all these sort of claims...'memory loss' etc. Turns out he'd been living a double life with another woman and it was all about to be exposed when his crisis became apparent.

If he is actually in crisis, then 20th January is unacceptable.

Mirabai · 30/12/2024 18:33

Deppcandouno · 30/12/2024 18:16

We had a call from the GP and they have made an appointment for the 20th January.

Is that following assessment by the Crisis team? Have they examined him?

Does the GP know he’s experiencing psychotic type symptoms?

Ring the GP surgery at 8am tomorrow and request an urgent on the day appt.

3 weeks in unacceptable.

YesIdolovehim · 30/12/2024 18:49

The NHS MH services are definitely on their knees if that is the level of support available in situations like this.

Lostcat · 30/12/2024 19:08

LawrenceSMarlowforPresident · 30/12/2024 18:24

Three weeks seems a very long wait if your DH is experiencing psychosis. Was the GP concerned about that at all?

Yup this is exactly what I expected, which is why I thought it was ridiculous that everyone was haranguing and abusing poor OP for not dragging her young child and her unwell husband to A&E in the middle of the night.