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My husband is acting is strangely

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Deppcandouno · 29/12/2024 21:11

My husband is acting in a very depressive manner and is reading bizarre meaning into things like adverts. He is also saying phrases that don’t make any sense like ‘we need to level up like super Mario’ and expecting that what he has said is normal. He keeps disappearing to do household jobs and is gone for an hour but has no recollection of what he has been doing. He has said he is concerned about his mental health and feels he meets the criteria to be sectioned. What do I do? Pl ease help.

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ThatKhakiMoose · 30/12/2024 01:02

Jaehee · 30/12/2024 00:57

My thoughts too. It's quite shocking, especially letting him wander off in his condition. Whatever the reason for the symptoms, he's vulnerable and clearly needs medical attention.

Oh, this is grounds for divorce, 100 percent. That poor, ill man. The one person who's meant to have his back won't even ring 111 or 999 when he's so sick he's wandering around outside. She's withholding medical treatment from him. Absolute witch.

Icepinkeskimo · 30/12/2024 01:04

Has anyone considered the OP may not be responding as she has/is taking steps regarding her dh?
Let’s not jump to conclusions.

YesIdolovehim · 30/12/2024 01:05

BobbyBiscuits · 30/12/2024 01:01

@YesIdolovehim totally. I'm glad you're getting the help you need. I'm not really in a position right now to go private and the NHS have pretty much turned their backs on me. But I'm still grateful as I'm able to survive. So many others really aren't able to cope.

❤️ Take care of yourself@BobbyBiscuits. I remember you from some of your other posts and you are always so kind and knowledgeable on MH issues.

YesIdolovehim · 30/12/2024 01:06

Icepinkeskimo · 30/12/2024 01:04

Has anyone considered the OP may not be responding as she has/is taking steps regarding her dh?
Let’s not jump to conclusions.

🤞🤞

ThatKhakiMoose · 30/12/2024 01:07

Icepinkeskimo · 30/12/2024 01:04

Has anyone considered the OP may not be responding as she has/is taking steps regarding her dh?
Let’s not jump to conclusions.

She already basically said that we can squeal as much as we like but she's not helping him:

"And yes, you can all exclaim that I should intervene now, but our son is asleep and I can’t drag him to an and e."

She's withholding emergency medical treatment from her DH because she doesn't want to wake their son. 🙄 Seems to escape her that he could go in an ambulance alone. I don't know why she's refusing to let him have medical treatment, but I think she's an abuser.

CrowleyKitten · 30/12/2024 01:08

CatsBeCrazy · 29/12/2024 21:47

Sounds like psychosis OP . I get messages through the tv when I have 😭

yeah, that's very common. my husband had that too. fortunately, his actual psychosis symptoms are very well managed by his meds, but he does sometimes disassociate, and his anxiety can get very bad. those are the things we mostly have to live with day to day now his meds are keeping him fairly stable. he's not improved beyond the point he is at, but the point he is at, he is still mostly able to have a decent enough life, unless the anxiety is particularly bad

Lostcat · 30/12/2024 01:10

I’m so sorry this sounds like psychosis

ThatKhakiMoose · 30/12/2024 01:13

Refusing to call an ambulance for someone who clearly needs emergency medical treatment surely must be a criminal offence?

CrowleyKitten · 30/12/2024 01:14

MferMonsterSearchingForRedemption · 29/12/2024 21:47

With my husband, he can have fleeting insight into his mental health when he is in psychosis at times. He knows something is wrong and when he is getting ill. However, recently, it didn't take him long to go from having this insight into his MH to having none at all, and becoming a danger to himself. It can certainly escalate quickly.

You need to call 111 OP, it could be a UTI, a head injury etc and that needs ruling out. They will decide if he needs to be seen today by the crisis team or the mental health liaison team if your A&E has one. If they think he can be managed and treated in the community with crisis support that is what they will try to do.

They may well wait to see him until tomorrow if you feel he can keep safe, but if that does happen, the second you have any concerns for his or your safety call emergency services.

I hope it isn't psychosis and it is something easily treatable.

Edited

it can be very varied how aware you are. one year my S.A.D. was so severe I was hallucinating weird creatures. and it was weird, because I was sitting there watching this creepy looking thing in the corner of the room and thinking "well, that's not really there. how weird. I'm hallucinating." did check with my husband with a "that thing in the corner isn't ACTUALLY there, is it? it's just my brain playing up."

ThatKhakiMoose · 30/12/2024 01:16

Lostcat · 30/12/2024 01:10

I’m so sorry this sounds like psychosis

OP doesn't care. Her husband is wandering around outside in the dark and cold and she won't even ring 111.

fridaynight1 · 30/12/2024 01:20

I imagine the reason the OP hasn’t come back to the thread is that she is getting her DH help.
Her DH is clearly very unwell.
A&E/111/police take psychosis very seriously as I am sure the OP also is.

Lostcat · 30/12/2024 01:20

Omg people need to calm down with the abuse directed at OP!! First of all, do you have any appreciation of the state of mental health services in this country? I’ve called 111 and 999 before for help with a friend in an acute psychotic state and they were beyond useless- basically said there was nothing they could do unless he started harming people.

OP also has a child at home. I’m sure she will keep and eye/ ensure her DP’s safety tonight and she’s said she will seek medical help in the morning. This is a totally reasonable/ practical approach.

CrowleyKitten · 30/12/2024 01:21

ManchesterLu · 29/12/2024 22:13

You should be more scared of what might happen if you don't, and he gets worse.

My uncle had to be sectioned for bizarre behaviour a couple of years ago. It helps. Please do it. Keep you both safe.

for my husband it was, without doubt, the most traumatic few months of his life.
HOWEVER. I have no idea if he'd still be with us if he hadn't been sectioned. it was horrible for him, traumatic for everyone, and a lot of things about what happened are not great (eg. they put him on Seroxat, even after the family told them he'd had that before, and had serious mood swings and aggression on it. when that's what happened, they insisted it wasn't side effects of the meds)

BUT. he got a diagnosis, and started on the path to finding the meds that would bring him back to his happy, kind, loving self. his psychosis is now well controlled by meds. his main symptoms now are extreme anxiety, and he can't work, or leave the house on his own, but he can enjoy life if me or a family member is there with him. and he's back to his mostly cheerful self, and is as kind, compassionate and loving as ever.

ThatKhakiMoose · 30/12/2024 01:25

fridaynight1 · 30/12/2024 01:20

I imagine the reason the OP hasn’t come back to the thread is that she is getting her DH help.
Her DH is clearly very unwell.
A&E/111/police take psychosis very seriously as I am sure the OP also is.

You clearly haven't read the thread. The last we heard from OP is that we can squeal as much as we like but she's not calling 111 tonight - and she said this with her DH wandering around outside. Check her last post.

"[News about DH "wandering about outside to no end] And yes, you can all exclaim that I should intervene now, but our son is asleep and I can’t drag him to an and e."

She's not taking it seriously AT ALL.

ThatKhakiMoose · 30/12/2024 01:26

Lostcat · 30/12/2024 01:20

Omg people need to calm down with the abuse directed at OP!! First of all, do you have any appreciation of the state of mental health services in this country? I’ve called 111 and 999 before for help with a friend in an acute psychotic state and they were beyond useless- basically said there was nothing they could do unless he started harming people.

OP also has a child at home. I’m sure she will keep and eye/ ensure her DP’s safety tonight and she’s said she will seek medical help in the morning. This is a totally reasonable/ practical approach.

It is not a reasonable, practical approach. The man is literally wandering around outside at midnight with symptoms of psychosis and OP will not even ring 111 for advice. He is having a medical emergency.

fridaynight1 · 30/12/2024 01:29

ThatKhakiMoose · 30/12/2024 01:25

You clearly haven't read the thread. The last we heard from OP is that we can squeal as much as we like but she's not calling 111 tonight - and she said this with her DH wandering around outside. Check her last post.

"[News about DH "wandering about outside to no end] And yes, you can all exclaim that I should intervene now, but our son is asleep and I can’t drag him to an and e."

She's not taking it seriously AT ALL.

You don’t know that. She was worried enough to post on here.

CrowleyKitten · 30/12/2024 01:29

Deppcandouno · 29/12/2024 23:42

I’ll get straight onto it in the morning. He’s wandering around outside at the moment to no particular end. And yes, you can all exclaim that I should intervene now, but our son is asleep and I can’t drag him to an and e. He has asd and lots of sensory issues.

it will be much worse for him if something bad happens to his Daddy due to lack of intervention. I'm not being overdramatic. yes, waking him up is a pain in the backside, but if you can't get someone to come over and be in the house with him,it honestly sounds necessary.

ThatKhakiMoose · 30/12/2024 01:32

fridaynight1 · 30/12/2024 01:29

You don’t know that. She was worried enough to post on here.

He's having a medical emergency and her last update LITERALLY said that she is not calling 111 tonight - even though he was wandering around outside as she said it. And she should not have been posting on here in place of getting him medical help.

Maurora · 30/12/2024 01:33

CrowleyKitten · 30/12/2024 01:21

for my husband it was, without doubt, the most traumatic few months of his life.
HOWEVER. I have no idea if he'd still be with us if he hadn't been sectioned. it was horrible for him, traumatic for everyone, and a lot of things about what happened are not great (eg. they put him on Seroxat, even after the family told them he'd had that before, and had serious mood swings and aggression on it. when that's what happened, they insisted it wasn't side effects of the meds)

BUT. he got a diagnosis, and started on the path to finding the meds that would bring him back to his happy, kind, loving self. his psychosis is now well controlled by meds. his main symptoms now are extreme anxiety, and he can't work, or leave the house on his own, but he can enjoy life if me or a family member is there with him. and he's back to his mostly cheerful self, and is as kind, compassionate and loving as ever.

I really feel for you, the aftermath of psychosis and the side effects of medication can sometimes be as bad, if not worse.

It does take time and hopefully, over time he'll get better... The anxiety can be crippling for him but also devastating for you, when it interferes with the day to day, making memories and just going out to do 'normal' family things.

Sadly, sometimes it needs a realisation and determination from the individual to make a move upwards. Medication is just a sticking plaster and a holding pattern and can't be relied on forever, in some cases.

Local social hubs with like minded people, talk clubs for blokes and over time, light volunteering will help, with hopefully a reduction in medication to the point of not needing it, if the original stressors are no longer present.

Lostcat · 30/12/2024 01:34

ThatKhakiMoose · 30/12/2024 01:26

It is not a reasonable, practical approach. The man is literally wandering around outside at midnight with symptoms of psychosis and OP will not even ring 111 for advice. He is having a medical emergency.

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what exactly do you think 111 are going to be able to do to help him?

Have you ever rung 111 with this kind of issue? Have you personally dealt with a situation like this?

As long as OP can keep him safe tonight, it can wait until the morning

ThatKhakiMoose · 30/12/2024 01:35

Can you imagine the cries and the outrage if a woman came on here and posted that she had had a medical emergency recently and her husband refused to get medical help for her? That he let her wander around outside at midnight in December and he didn't call 111?

CrowleyKitten · 30/12/2024 01:35

YesIdolovehim · 30/12/2024 00:28

“voluntarily sectioned” doesn’t exist. If you would go into hospital voluntarily then you don’t need to be sectioned

it absolutely DOES exist. when people recognise they need that level of help.
wasn't the case for my husband, he was section 28, detained under the mental health act. can't remember the coding for it now, but voluntary sectioning IS a thing. or, at least it was in the late 2000s.

4forksache · 30/12/2024 01:39

Call someone to come and sit with your son if you can.

Maurora · 30/12/2024 01:39

CrowleyKitten · 30/12/2024 01:35

it absolutely DOES exist. when people recognise they need that level of help.
wasn't the case for my husband, he was section 28, detained under the mental health act. can't remember the coding for it now, but voluntary sectioning IS a thing. or, at least it was in the late 2000s.

It was in Feb 2020 and later that year... The immediate family are asked and then the individual, although very poorly can sometimes be reasoned with.

The problem with being treated at home is it can adversely affect the relationship... The problem with being treated in hospital, it's not always that safe, there are a lot of 'revolving door patients' who put themselves at risk.

ThatKhakiMoose · 30/12/2024 01:41

Lostcat · 30/12/2024 01:34

what exactly do you think 111 are going to be able to do to help him?

Have you ever rung 111 with this kind of issue? Have you personally dealt with a situation like this?

As long as OP can keep him safe tonight, it can wait until the morning

He's wandering around outside in December while very ill. Does that sound like keeping him safe?

And yes, I've rung 111 plenty of times during my dad's two-year terminal illness, thank you, including when he was so confused he thought he was at an address where he hadn't lived for 60 years and when he thought I was poisoning him, among other things.

Since you clearly haven't dealt with this, as I can tell because you asked what they could do, I'll tell you: A nurse answers and they ask a bunch of questions. A LOT of questions. Depending on the nature of the illness, they either send an ambulance, go away and call a doctor and call you back with next steps, or tell you to get yourself or your loved one to A&E if that will be quicker than an ambulance. They let the facility know to expect you and what the problem is, so that they're ready for you when they arrive. If you can be seen at a walk-in clinic, they tell you which one to go to and they similarly inform the clinic.

They're pretty good when someone is seriously ill, like OP's husband.

I hope I've answered your three questions: The above is what they can do; yes, I have "rung 111 with this kind of issue;" and yes, I have "personally dealt with" something like this. Dad died a few months ago and mental confusion was part of his illness at both the end and in the summer of 2023. Happy now?

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