to think taking weight loss injections/tablets is an easy cop out?

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I am seriously considering going ahead with this. I am nearly pre diabetic stage and the heaviest i’ve been in my whole.
It started to affect me health wise so i know i really do need to lose weight but can’t help feeling one should be able to do it without medication as then how am i going to be able to maintain it if i need help getting there??

Who’s ready to play bingo?

Isn’t using a washing machine a cop out?! You could just take your clothes to the river and bash them on the rocks. It’s more effort but isn’t it worth it…?

Things evolve and it would be ridiculous not to evolve with them.

I don't think you're meant to take them for life?

And so effectively goady too!

It’s a shame posters feel it necessary to justify using WLI at all.

Yes, mounjaro can be taken for life, wegovy/ozempic is two years as it stops working, mounjaro doesn’t.

I'm obese. I'm extremely active, but I have a couple of medical conditions that mess up my hormones, meaning it's extremely easy to gain weight, but hard to lose it. I've also had restrictive eating disorders in my youth, which I've swapped for binge eating in adulthood. My relationship with food is fucked.

I started Wegovy this year, but I've also started therapy. I'm hoping that I can change my relationship with food and get into a better headspace, so that when I come off the jabs, I can maintain. I see them as an aid, not a miracle cure.

Respectfully, and with empathy, you are being mad.

We understand SO much more about how weight loss and dieting work (or, more frequently, don’t work) now than we did in the bad old days. We know that brain chemistry affects appetite, satiety and other food-regulating cues to a huge degree. We know that dieting slows the metabolism, meaning you’re fighting an uphill battle to lose weight and keep it off whenever you diet. We know that concepts like will-power and self control are virtually useless when it comes to long-term weight loss and are only so prevalent in diet culture because weight shaming is a very effective way of making people pay for diet and exercise plans.

Weight loss drugs even the playing field by helping to ensure you aren’t fighting your own body and brain when it comes to weight loss. They aren’t a cop out, any more than antidepressants are a cop out for people whose brain chemistry gives them depression. They are going to revolutionise the entire way we approach weight loss and, potentially, free thousands (if not millions) of people from the stigma associated with struggling to lose weight.

Please release yourself from feelings of guilt or failure. If your doctor agrees that weight loss drugs are safe for you to use, you should do what feels right to you and free yourself from completely unnecessary shame and self-reproach.

I know, I don’t know why folks don’t just tell her to crack on and diet, and ignore,

Think what you like. They work and that’s all I care about.

I maintain my weight with exercise, a certain amount of calories a day and it’s hard yes but I think weight loss injections are a much harder way to lose/maintain weight. It’s certainly not the easy way! For a start self injecting is not anything anyone wants to do. Plus there can be some nasty side effects if you’re unlucky.

They are strong drugs and you still have struggles, they’re just different ones.

They are not a ‘cop-out’. Don’t be so antagonistic.

Ozempic/wegovy is no more likely to stop working than mounjaro. I'm well into my third year of ozempic and it is still working effectively for me.

Morning @HansHolbein Great to see the bingo card in use again 😂😂

Might be able to pick up some additions

You're seriously comparing those two things? 🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣

How? It’s only approved to be used for 2 years.

Ozempic stopped working for me, and I put the weight back on.

I only have about two stone to lose, so am going to try traditional methods but if that fails, I’ll try MJ. My only concern is the price.

@Pumpkinforever Hey bingo buddy! I’m looking forward to reading the same old faux concern fuckery on thread #172722727227272 slagging off WLI

I don't think it's an easy way/cop out. I think it's bloody stupid though.

There is a lot of posts on here recommending lying to get them privately, how to not tell your GP, telling people with kidney problems how to get them.

People are so obsessed with numbers on a scale they're playing down right dangerous roulette with their overall health. Apparently the risk of fat related illnesses override the actual health of essential organs.

It needs strict regulation fast.

I tried to do it myself for many years and failed.

My mum died of cancer at 67 and my dad dropped dead from a heart attack at 77.
The rewards far outweighed the risks so I went for it and easily lost 3 stone to get to a healthy weight. I'd recommend it to anyone struggling with their weight in a heart beat.

Easy way out? Not in my experience
Every diet I've tried for 30 years has failed, bariatric surgery failed. I'm finally down to a reasonable weight on mounjaro but every single weekend I've been floored by side effects. I do the injection on Friday, sat and sun I can't eat, I'm nauseated, I can't sleep, everything aches. By Monday I can function, go to work and repeat. It's been horrible. But I'll stay on it for life if I have to.

I don't really care if it is or it isn't a cop out. Opinions will vary but I'm just grateful to no longer be uncomfortably overweight.

For the last few years I've lost and regained the same stone reaching a stall point every time where whatever diet I'm doing falls apart. This time I've lost 3 stone so far and my health and mobility is so much improved. I suspect I was pre diabetic at my heaviest and hopefully no longer am.

Will I be able to maintain it long term? I don't know the answer to that but I do know it's easier to exercise, move about and make better choices when I'm not already rotund and sluggish with dodgy blood sugar.

There is no moral issue, or moral value in taking weight loss help or not. It is purely a health choice. There is a price to pay for being overweight and there will likely be a price to pay for taking wegovy or mounjaro. You have to do what works best for you. It's good to have options.

Go for it. We do many things to make life easier, why not weight loss jab? Some people maintain healthy weight more easily than others. Sounds like risks of not loosing weight are worse than any feeling of cheating.

I’ve never struggled with my weight so I have no skin in this game. But the way I see it, it’s kind of like taking anti depressants.

You take anti depressants (in most cases, not all) to lift your mood enough to be able to work on what you need to work on to get through it. Then you wean off them once you’ve learned the coping mechanisms you need.

If you take a weight-loss drug, along side learning healthier habits etc, then once you’ve gained come off it you’ll be more likely to maintain the weight loss? I can imagine it feels like an uphill struggle when you’re facing trying to lose so much weight, this is an aid to get you through that initial struggle

For a start self injecting is not anything anyone wants to do.

Really @Cucumberpickler ? Are you sure? I was happy to do it. It was once a week with a very short, very fine needle. It goes into the ample belly fat or thigh fat. I lost weight. It worked.