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To feel like I might never spend the holidays with my family again

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MaLanny · 28/12/2024 19:22

Hi all,

I feel awful writing this but I need some perspective. This year I was really lucky and had the most amazing Christmas with my fiancés family. For various reasons we haven't done Christmas with his family before, my parents always guilted me into spending it with them.

Christmas with my family has always been a little underwhelming, even as a kid. My parents were never the type to make a show of Christmas, decorations were minimal, dinner was all premade stuff and the whole day just sort of dragged. They have never been thoughtful gift givers preferring to just give money to get your own thing etc.
Now I don't fault this, if this is how they like Christmas then great.

Fiancés family are the opposite. His aunt and uncle hosted for us, his brother, his parents and grandparents and for his cousin and her lovely little girl.
In the morning we woke up late, and opened presents, my fiancé had put so much thought into the gifts, and he was genuinely excited to see me open them. Even down to the wrapping which included bows and ribbons and he was like a kid excitedly saying "look it has polar bears and it's green it's your two favourites" like he really thought it all through. We then got dressed up which is totally alien to me at Christmas as a pyjama family but it was lovely.
When we got to his aunt and uncles we did the gift exchange there and it was the same, all gorgeously wrapped, really well thought out considerate presents. His family have a rule where the "grandparent" generation cook, so his aunt and uncle and his parents sorted all of dinner. Apparently it's so as our generation have more kids (only his cousin has a kid so far) we get to spend Christmas with them and playing with them without worrying about cooking. Which again just feels so thoughtful. So when they went off to cook, my fiancé and his brother and cousin set up the toy car race track they'd got for the little girl and everyone raced their cars. She loved it and it was so refreshing as if it was my parents, we'd have been sat silently in front of the telly!
Dinner was incredible, salmon roulade starter, goose and beef wellington for main with all the trimmings, proper Christmas pudding and a lovely trifle.
After dinner we all went a walk and stopped in the pub, which again was just nice to be out for a little as my family would never do that.
Back in, film on but there was no pressure to be quiet and watch, half of us were on the floor with the little girl playing with her toys, it just felt so festive. The conversation was lovely, no one was shouting or arguing.
Once the little girl went to bed we all played games.

In all my life I've never had such a lovely Christmas. I've never felt so cared about. The effort was incredible and you could tell they all really loved doing it.

His family also go all out for new years, host a party etc.

Now we are TTC and my mum knows. She keeps going on about how if I get pregnant soon she will get babies first Christmas since we spent this one with my fiancés side. But honestly I don't know if I could go back to my parents for Christmas ever again. It's so much more festive and well thought out at my fiancés and it felt so welcoming and fun.

AIBU to think that for as long as I'm with my fiancé and his family are hosting Christmas like this (which they have done more or less every year of his whole life so not likely to stop soon), id rather go there and have a lazy Boxing Day with my parents? Or is it on me to make sure i see my parents at Christmas too even if I enjoy it less?

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Santaisinbedalready · 28/12/2024 19:26

Have next Christmas morning at home. Pop and see your dm and go to ils. No way would I sacrifice a great Christmas for the one they have on offer.....
Don't be guilt tripped op.

Changingplace · 28/12/2024 19:28

Don’t let anyone start planning out next Christmas for you irrelevant if anything else. Shut your mum down on this idea now, say you’re not planning that far ahead and may want to have your own family Christmas and leave it as that.

Clipclopflop · 28/12/2024 19:30

You say there was no arguing. Can you disclose more about this? What was the home environment like growing up?
Your mum sounds entitled.

PangoPurrl · 28/12/2024 19:34

Best of luck with TTC! If and when there is a baby's first Christmas for you perhaps a nice solution would be for your folks to join Fiance's family for some or all of the day? If there's room/inclination..

MaLanny · 28/12/2024 19:35

Clipclopflop · 28/12/2024 19:30

You say there was no arguing. Can you disclose more about this? What was the home environment like growing up?
Your mum sounds entitled.

My parents can't (and never have) been able to get through a full day of no arguing. No matter what there is an argument. Dad didn't put the turkey joint in at the right time, or my brother showed up 20 minutes late (which will have thrown the whole day off in my mums eyes even though we all just sit and watch telly). Dad will grumble about the cost of everything and how pointless Christmas is. Eventually all the little nit picks build up and one of them goes to bed at 7 in a bad mood. It's the same every year, heck it's the same every week!

Fiancés family were just so chill. Our cab was late so we arrived 30 minutes later than expected, no one said a thing, no one was upset or angry. They got us some drinks as soon as we walked in and just didn't mention it. No one cared about what was on the telly as it wasn't the focus, conversation and games and playing with the little one was.

My family could never!

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MaLanny · 28/12/2024 19:36

PangoPurrl · 28/12/2024 19:34

Best of luck with TTC! If and when there is a baby's first Christmas for you perhaps a nice solution would be for your folks to join Fiance's family for some or all of the day? If there's room/inclination..

My parents wouldn't even consider it. They don't live locally so would have to travel the day before. My dad would moan that it's all a load of crap and why would anyone put so much time and effort into one day. My mum wouldn't like not having control and if I do much as suggested they put on some nice clothes they'd tell me to F off!

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Autumn38 · 28/12/2024 19:39

Given your updates I’d definitely be spending Christmas with your in-laws. Christmas at your parents sounds totally joyless

FictionalCharacter · 28/12/2024 19:40

She keeps going on about how if I get pregnant soon she will get babies first Christmas
Shut this down straight away. She doesn't get to tell you where to spend your Christmases, and she certainly doesn't get to claim your baby for any given occasion.
Tell her that you will decide where you go. If you don't shut it down, you'll get started on the annual "trying to keep everyone happy and be 'fair' to parents and in-laws" angst that spawns dozens of MN posts every year.

Chocolatey1234 · 28/12/2024 19:40

We have a quiet Christmas DH is poorly now so Christmases have got quieter. I try my best and we have some games but DH gets tired. I worry if either of our two find partners who have a livelier Christmas than us they will be off for good in a heart beat.

Your Christmas at your finances sounds ildilic. But agree don’t make plans either way just yet.

BIL’s wifes large extended family all seemed extremely sociable loving friendly and fun. I was a little envious of my much quieter much less social much more subdued introverted family. In no time at all major cracks appeared and all was not as it first seemed and now several family members are no longer speaking to each other.

HPandthelastwish · 28/12/2024 19:40

Christmas day does not have to be celebrated on Christmas day unless you are religious.

Don't tell mum your plans for next year. Offer another day or say once LO is here you are spending it as a three or going away they don't have to know where. You don't owe it to anyone to split your day, you spend it as you please.

Changingplace · 28/12/2024 19:41

MaLanny · 28/12/2024 19:36

My parents wouldn't even consider it. They don't live locally so would have to travel the day before. My dad would moan that it's all a load of crap and why would anyone put so much time and effort into one day. My mum wouldn't like not having control and if I do much as suggested they put on some nice clothes they'd tell me to F off!

They sound awful, I honestly wouldn’t bother with them next year it sounds horrible.

OliveLeader · 28/12/2024 19:43

Absolutely go to your in-laws. You deserve to celebrate Christmas in a lovely, festive way. Your parents won’t like it but please make this decision for you and your future child(ren), not for parents who aren’t bothered about the day.

Dramallama91 · 28/12/2024 19:45

YANBU - I much prefer spending Christmas with DHs family for similar reasons.

Unfortunately my mum thinks there is some grandparents hierarchy with her at the top and there is drama every year over what we do for Christmas. It's exhausting.

Spikeishere · 28/12/2024 19:46

Sounds very lovely! Yes I'd be tempted by it forever tbh

jhar · 28/12/2024 19:48

Do your siblings have children.

Follow the kids and pass it off as that. Then pick a specific day you will spend with them.

We always do DH family, always have. Even before we had children. We went where the children were and based it on that. The reality was identical to yours.

Imisschocolate17 · 28/12/2024 19:50

You most definitely can choose to never spend Christmas Day with your family again, there are plenty of other days around Christmas that you can spend time with them instead. My in-laws make next to no effort for presents, the actual gift exchange itself is so awkward and lack lustre because of it and little fun or joy. I decided years ago there was no way we were doing alternate Christmasses with them and my DH didn't disagree thankfully

Imisschocolate17 · 28/12/2024 19:51

We also were always hungry, Christmas Day is not a day to be going to bed hungry!

MaLanny · 28/12/2024 19:54

Chocolatey1234 · 28/12/2024 19:40

We have a quiet Christmas DH is poorly now so Christmases have got quieter. I try my best and we have some games but DH gets tired. I worry if either of our two find partners who have a livelier Christmas than us they will be off for good in a heart beat.

Your Christmas at your finances sounds ildilic. But agree don’t make plans either way just yet.

BIL’s wifes large extended family all seemed extremely sociable loving friendly and fun. I was a little envious of my much quieter much less social much more subdued introverted family. In no time at all major cracks appeared and all was not as it first seemed and now several family members are no longer speaking to each other.

It's not so much it being quiet, I do love how festive it was at my fiancés but it's also the lack or arguing and tension. There were no expectations to do anything and everything was very opt in and hiccups were just absorbed and laughed at rather than stressed over (like the little one knocked over a glass it smashed, no one shouted or got upset, it was laughed at, said oops must be more careful and drinking wine out of a champagne glass became a little funny part of the day). Everyone also just chipped in to stop it being stressful and with 4 adults with no kids on dinner they didn't seem overly stressed vs it being one person doing all the heavy lifting.
If it was just quiet I think I could handle it.

Also the attention to detail made it special. The little 3 year old had coloured in the name cards for place settings which was just so sweet and the presents all being wrapped so nicely - it's a small thing but it was just nice that everyone cared so much.

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Clipclopflop · 28/12/2024 19:56

Reading your original post it came across as 90% superficial reasons why you wanted to spend Christmas there, but the truth is your parents - for their own reasons - ruin Christmas. It doesn't sound like they've ever delivered a joyful one. What you really want is a peaceful Christmas with people who demonstrate care. That is totally reasonable.

I think you have emotionally immature parents.

Goofy03 · 28/12/2024 19:58

Do you know the ILs-to-be very well, outside of this Xmas Day? How much time do you spend with them?
It sounds idyllic but sometimes the case when you only know people superficially!

MaLanny · 28/12/2024 20:02

Goofy03 · 28/12/2024 19:58

Do you know the ILs-to-be very well, outside of this Xmas Day? How much time do you spend with them?
It sounds idyllic but sometimes the case when you only know people superficially!

I know them quite well.
They are just a pretty chill family, but with a lot of love and care for everyone.
I think they are much better at dealing with unexpected mishaps than my family are which makes everything seem more relaxed.

We are going skiing with fiancés brother and cousin and her little girl in February and even just the planning of that has been so nice, no bickering or upset and everyone is happy to compromise.

I think they've also been doing Christmas like this for so long that it's a well oiled machine and everyone knows what their part in it is which helps it move smoothly.

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Greengrasswalks · 28/12/2024 20:05

Tell your Mum you haven’t decided what your plans for next Christmas will be yet. You may be abroad.

You also don’t need to agree your plans re. future Christmases so far in advance.

You are allowed to wake up at whatever time you like at Christmas, and open nicely thought out and wrapped gifts in your own home.

And you don’t need to expose yourself or your loved ones to toxic behaviour, on any day of the year.

It’s time to start your own Christmas traditions.

BlueSilverCats · 28/12/2024 20:07

@MaLanny , out of curiosity , if inlaws xmas was the same as your parents' , but with the same cheery attitude, affectionate,calm, go with the flow and let's just enjoy each other atmosphere , would you still enjoy it more?

MaLanny · 28/12/2024 20:09

BlueSilverCats · 28/12/2024 20:07

@MaLanny , out of curiosity , if inlaws xmas was the same as your parents' , but with the same cheery attitude, affectionate,calm, go with the flow and let's just enjoy each other atmosphere , would you still enjoy it more?

Oh for sure, I love all the festive extras but if it was between the festive extras with arguing, upset and tension and a quiet day where you can be a little late or spill a drink and no one gets upset I'll take that option all day everyday.

The arguing and grumbling is what really ruins the day. Especially when they huff and puff like they are moving mountains and in reality it's low effort and a lot of drama to achieve that.

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OrangeSlices998 · 28/12/2024 20:10

My IL’s have a Christmas much like you're describing, big and family oriented. My dad was a miserable bastard who hates Christmas and ruined so many as an adult I stopped going even before I met DH, preferring to work or spend the day with friends and I saw them 26/27 instead. My first Christmas with DH’s family I was very overwhelmed but mostly by how lovely it was, even with the usual bickering and whatnot. It was so so different to my own experiences, I couldn’t believe it! Since then my parents have thankfully divorced so each year since with DC has been different but honestly I care much less about pleasing the grandparents because it’s about my DC now and ensuring they have a good Christmas and we begin building our own traditions.

Long winded way of saying - you don’t have to spend any Christmas Day with your parents if you don’t want to. You don’t owe them that, DC or not. Start a new tradition of seeing them another day?