Conspiracy Theories part 2

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A follow on thread as the first thread is full. This message is directed towards @Corinthiana

A few negative newspaper headlines made Diana unpopular? Nonsense. She remained a figure of profound importance internationally. She died over the summer - August. So she was on holiday. She was divorced and they shared arrangements with the boys. So she was on a yacht? Did you run her personal schedule to know that this was a sign of her prioritising her relationship over her sons as this is what you appear to be implying? Do you honestly think that the public reaction in the immediate aftermath of her death was due to her sudden post death elevation to sainthood as opposed to her enduring popularity during her life? What an illogical statement.

She was indeed a very complex woman but the fascination with her was boundless. You sound reductive and agenda driven. Greed? She was from a true blue blooded family - she famously said to Prince Philip 'my family is older than your's'.

I said I find it quite suspicious/intriguing, please quote me correctly. I also asked the poster to show me an actual picture of Michelle pregnant, she linked to a weird set of fakes. I would like to see one. Joan's death is perplexing and suspicious to me. She died during a routine endoscopy of lack of oxygen having gone through many many surgeries. The timing was in close proximity to that statement. There is a plethora of other information about this issue on the internet. Hence it falls under the umbrella of what would be referred to as a conspiracy theory.

OP, it is worth remembering here that the Mccanns have two other children who are now adults and presumably would like to grow up in a normal life and not come across people like you harping on about your opinions.

Perhaps you might like to educate yourself over the fact that that police officer who wrote the book was also struck off for misconduct.

You know no more than anyone else regarding what happened to Madeleine McCann, so let’s not start shouting at people to educate themselves when there have never been any charges, any proof, and the child was never found.

I didn't realise that I shouted at you? I'm sorry if you don't like it, but do you also post on every single true crime forum on reddit, you tube etc. about this case or do you save your outrage for mumsnet? This case is in the public record and so people will comment on it, Kate wrote a book on it. The fact that you don't like it does not invalidate it as a subject of legitimate public interest. I am quite certain that the twins are not reading this thread and they will unfortunately be exposed to far more scandalous material than this thread. I do not think that any of the issues with Amaral have a significant bearing on his interpretation of the evidence in this case that led him to the conclusion that there was no abduction.

See what intrigues me is why some people are so defensive of their so called right to make accusations about people who have never been tried, never been convicted, never even been arrested for a crime.

I imagine that the OP was probably among those who were accusing Nicola Bulley’s partner of her murder and were likely feeling somewhat stupid when it turned out she’d fallen into and drowned in the river.

These true crime forums are typically full of batshit wannabe detectives who feel the need to have their opinions heard in the belief that they know what happened, even though the experts often don’t.

Just the one? So did everyone else not wear one in solidarity? Why wouldn't they offer her their seat? Why wouldn't she demand another car? What sort of driver service doesn't do proper up keep of their vehicles? A quick Google image search brings up at least 2 photos of her in a car without a seatbelt on!

Oh and Diana really wasn’t popular at the time, on the contrary she was a bit of a laughing stock by then. Hoaring around with other women’s husbands and boyfriends, with no consideration for the people who were affected by her behaviour. Manipulating the press into believing she was some kind of victim when actually she made a good living being an OW for several years.

The press only made her into some kind of saint after she died because they had been following her in the hopes of capturing yet more of her antics.

And then people made up all that crap about her going to get engaged to Dodi and being pregnant by him, when actually she’d been shagging him (having been the OW while he cheated on his GF with her) for a matter of weeks. It just suited the narrative to paint her as some kind of wronged fairytale princess, which she most certainly was not.

You 'imagine' incorrectly about Nicola Bulley - there you go with your flawed and ill founded reasoning. I made no accusations about the McCanns I merely cited the evidence generated in the case. Sadly you seem very misguided and willing to insult me for no valid reason.

I’m not shocked about the thread about conspiracy theories. And based on your previous posts I’m not particularly shocked that you’re making accusations about the sex of a black woman and suggesting she had something to do with another woman’s death? While she was on the operating table? Unless I’m getting you wrong of course - and that wasn’t what you intended? I do apologise if that wasn’t what you meant by your comments? Because they are terrible things to say, so maybe I have got it wrong?

So the thread is unpleasant but you refer to Diana 'hoaring' which I think is an incorrect spelling of the misogynistic and vulgar term 'whoring'? What a vile and disgusting thing to say. Shameful.

and were likely feeling somewhat stupid when it turned out she’d fallen into and drowned in the river

Probably not. People like that just double down and come out with even more outlandish reasons. I don’t think self-awareness, let alone empathy for others, figures.

I am saying it is perplexing. I am not saying Michelle did anything herself of course on the actual operating table. Are you so literal in real life? As for digging into my previous posts - you sound obsessed. Get a life.

You know you’ve won a discussion when people decide to have a pop at your spelling rather than formulate an intelligent response.

Thing is, everything said upthread about Diana is true. She cheated on Charles practically from the moment they were married. Yes, he did too, but she wasn’t an innocent bystander, it was a marriage of convenience, for both of them.

And then, after they divorced, she persisted in shagging other women’s husbands, to the extent that Will Carling’s wife put out a statement in the national press about it.

Clearly being cheated on didn’t actually have much impact if she was happy to be the OW to numerous other women’s husbands.

Most women who have been cheated on would never be the OW, because they’ve been on the receiving end, but Diana pretty much didn’t bother with single men, presumably not enough of a challenge for her.

It may be an unpleasant thing to say, but Diana was an unpleasant person.

You sound very bitter. Your 'intelligent' response appears to be a set of vile and vulgar accusations directed towards Diana based on her shagging and whoring. Far too clever for me so I'll leave you to it.

Michelle Obama being a 'man' has been widely spread on the internet for years, Joan Rivers repeating it was no reason to kill her.

there could be many reasons MO hasn't shared photos of herself pregnant: not wanting to entertain the theories; not having any; using a surrogate; adopting... none of these reasons makes her a man! People have always accused strong women of being men to insult their physical appearance or imply that only men can achieve greatness, it's not a new thing.

It was on a comedy show called Spicks & Specks, and repeated in the Murdoch media. From memory.

I’m not digging into your previous posts. I have a feeling I’d need a bath. I’m going by what you’ve actually said just on this thread. Honestly, just on this not very long thread, you’ve said plenty. So you’re not implying that Michelle somehow had something to do with Joan’s death. What exactly are you implying then?

People like me just don’t tend to espouse that black women (or in fact, any women) in the public eye are actually men and have something to do with somebody else’s death. Think I’m happier being someone like me. Thanks.

Whatever she is, it’s nothing good

I know someone who saw the plane hit the Pentagon, and have family who were involved in one of the most notorious American school massacres. They weren't harmed, but they saw the devastation. The parents of murdered children were routinely harassed by conspiracy nut jobs.

Imagine your children being murdered. Now imagine people shouting at you accusing you of lying about it.

And who would carry out such a tasteless campaign?

I find it incredibly odd that Kate McCann refused to answer the questions. Surely as a parent whose child has vanished, you would do all you could to get them back. I’m far from a CT but this case is a strange one. More than meets the eye for sure.

At the very least they are guilty of appalling neglect, as are their friends. I will never countenance leaving small children alone and uncared for as they all did.

As far as I recall she was advised not to by her lawyer. The questions are very clearly aimed at framing her not furthering the investigation.

metro.co.uk/2019/03/19/48-police-questions-kate-mccann-didnt-answer-8943052/amp/

Did you start this thread to see how many times you could use "legitimate public interest?"
Not that it makes much sense anyway.