Is this the definition of misogyny

[JuniperJungl]

I am waiting to be seen for a 36 week maternity appointment. Outside the birth centre in the waiting area there are only three seats, all bolted to the floor so can't be moved.

I stood up to ring the bell as had been waiting for ages and a man who had dropped his wife off earlier has arrived back with a primary school age child both coughing and spluttering like mad and have taken two of the three seats. I have moved away from them as they are visibly unwell and am now crouching on the floor.

He said there is a seat available so I should take it, I said I'm trying to stay away from coughs.

Not misogyny but just downright rude. It doesn’t sound related to your sex tbh.

That is not misogyny, it is just rude , inconsiderate and horrid.

Misogyny would be telling you that you didn’t deserve a seat because he is a man and so more entitled to sit down than you ( there are many places in the world where this would be a perfectly acceptable statement).

No, but he should let You sit in the chair and he can go and cough somewhere else.

He's literally waiting for his wife in the waiting area.

It’s lousy manners rather than misogyny, but on the other hand, if they have colds and are waiting for their partner/mum they are going to be spreading their germs regardless.

Just sit on the third chair and face the other way.

Is this for real? He was letting you know that there was a seat that you could occupy, instead of crouching on the floor. He may not have realized that you were trying to avoid his poorly children. Goodness gracious!

No that’s not misogyny.

I don’t even think it’s rude tbh - there was a spare seat you could have used.

No one was stopping the OP from sitting in the chair.

No. It's not misogyny. There's three people waiting and three seats. It's your choice not to use it because of them coughing.

Them coughing or waiting isn't happening because the man feels he's more entitled to be there than you. Your annoyance at your perception that his choice be there is rude/entitled is your issue.

You presumably would have been equally annoyed if it was granny and child waiting?

Why is everything on MN is either misogyny or gaslighting.

Not misogyny, but slight misandry that you expect the man to stand for you.

Good manners mean he probably should given you’re pregnant, but the primary age child should still be able to sit so you’d only have one chair gap from the coughs - would that be enough for you? And are you too pregnant/incapacitated to stand?

It’s inconsiderate to be unwell and mix with vulnerable people, but unfortunately many don’t think that far. Other than that, not unreasonable for him and his son to sit in a chair if there are enough chairs. But I’d expect them to offer the seat if another pregnant woman arrives and there are no chairs left.

Or limerance.

No it’s not, but it’s up to you whether you want to sit on the empty chair or not, so many people have coughs and colds at the moment, just do what you can to avoid catching anything.

This is why I still wear a mask in public spaces. Perhaps give that a shot.

OP what is the definition of misogyny?

Is this post for real? Why are you crouching on the floor?!!!

Misogyny is hate directed at a person or group of people strictly on the basis of them being women. It's a means of segregation and oppression and causing harm and although not always the case, it's acts can be deeply rooted in extremism.

I don't think him and his kids coughing were there with the intention of harming other women. He was probably supporting his wife and had no childcare and they're all ill.

It was stupid and selfish and the medical staff should have cleared him off and sanitised the area but no, I don't think his actions were to isolate, segregate or oppress women.

Why would you think it's misogyny - do you know what the word means? He's an arse to be there with a child if they are both ill, ill people should avoid medical settings, but there's nothing wrong with the basic story "man arrived with child, found three empty seats and occupied two of them, leaving the third free for a pregnant woman to sit in if she liked."

I am not sure you understand the term OP.

You clearly don’t understand the meaning of the word misogyny.

I would have thought in a maternity waiting area the comfort and health of a heavily pregnant woman should be more important than that of a man waiting for his wife. He acknowledged their illnesses before I did and kept telling his child to cover their mouth but obviously the child couldn't reliably do that.

No! You do know that the definition of misogyny is the dislike or contempt of women?

There were three seats, he and his kid sat down in two and there was one left. You had a seat available and chose not to sit there as the kid was coughing.

Not everything is an offending big deal. Get a grip.

Kindly though @JuniperJungl it's still not misogyny. It's thoughtless at worst in my opinion.

Schrödinger’s Cold - the cold where you need to ‘buck up - it’s just a cold - you’re not ill’ whilst simultaneously being the cold where you need to stay home not to infect people.