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To not let my sister bring her own meat on Christmas day!

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FelizNavidadAmiga · 20/12/2024 21:33

First off, we are a strictly vegan household for moral reasons. I invited my sister for Christmas lunch as she is recently divorced and has nowhere else to go. I usually put on a magnificent spread with roast vegetables, tagine, stuffed peppers, vine leaves, falafel, home made hummus etc. My sister has just sent me a message saying she's going to bring her own chicken to cook. AIBU to say no way! I don't want chicken cooking in my nice clean vegan oven! Plus the smell makes me feel ill 🤢 I don't want to upset her as she's very sensitive at the moment but surely she can do without chicken for 1 day.

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Dollshousedolly · 20/12/2024 22:14

Occasionalnamechanger · 20/12/2024 21:42

I think it's fair to ask her to not bring meat but your spread doesn't look very filling at all - is it worth chatting to her about what kind of food she might enjoy eating so you can compromise? Bring hungry on Xmas Day is a bit miserable.

Really, a veg tagine not filling, along with roast veg, stuffed peppers ?? Not to mention the falafel, hummus, etc. You must have some appetite.

Plitterfced · 20/12/2024 22:14

LostTheMarble · 20/12/2024 22:09

On Christmas Day? If I was going through a shit time and my closest loved ones invited me over for vegetables and leaves for my Xmas dinner, I’d probably give up and go drink Baileys down the park with a rotisserie chicken from Sainsburys.

Wow, really? Is meat that important to you? Spending time with family and friends that have gone out of their way to invite me over is what would matter to me. I really wouldn’t give the food a second thought. Yes even on Christmas Day. Different strokes I suppose.

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 20/12/2024 22:14

ElinAlma · 20/12/2024 21:36

Not unreasonable to say no.
But unreasonable to call this food: roast vegetables, tagine, stuffed peppers, vine leaves, falafel, home made hummus etc, a magnificent spread.

That's very bog standard food and not anything magnificent for a festive meal.

Edited

How bitchy are you?
Do you think you are some domestic godess?

AlertCat · 20/12/2024 22:15

i’m really shocked at the number of people who think it’s fine to accept an invitation to lunch but say that you’re going to cook your own lunch in the host’s kitchen because you don’t fancy what they’re having! How rude are all of you who can’t imagine foregoing meat for one single meal! Honestly is the dinner not about the company, more than the food??

ChristmasEveNotChristmasSteve · 20/12/2024 22:15

YANBU for not letting her bring meat to your house, but I'm vegan and YABU to have tagine and stuffed peppers for Christmas lunch. 😭

Username2532 · 20/12/2024 22:16

Maboscelar · 20/12/2024 21:52

It's an ethical decision and OP doesn't want a dead animal that was tortured and badly treated before its murder to be brought into her house. That's not a lifestyle thing.

YANBU OP. Tell her no.

Definitely a wind up thread and people are just biting, with extreme reactions.

user1473878824 · 20/12/2024 22:16

ElinAlma · 20/12/2024 21:36

Not unreasonable to say no.
But unreasonable to call this food: roast vegetables, tagine, stuffed peppers, vine leaves, falafel, home made hummus etc, a magnificent spread.

That's very bog standard food and not anything magnificent for a festive meal.

Edited

What a weird, nasty post.

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 20/12/2024 22:16

MumOfOneAllAlone · 20/12/2024 21:45

I said you are being unreasonable, sorry - tell her to bring cooked meat but your menu doesn't sound nice or christmassy

Even if you were going to someone else's place, you can typically expect the usual Christmas food, and it doesn't sound like it's on offer here x

Pathetic

Abcdefghijklmh · 20/12/2024 22:17

I’d just say to bring the chicken cooked - I think it’s fine she brings it but I agree if you don’t want chicken being cooked in your oven then that’s fine as well

Morecoffeeforme · 20/12/2024 22:17

Wonderi · 20/12/2024 22:11

Can you compromise and ask her to precook it?

I’m not sure why you’d have an issue with it being cooked there but it’s your home and so you can set the rules.

You realise meat smells right? And would probably splatter meat juice in an oven that hasn’t ever cooked meat before.

Mum2jenny · 20/12/2024 22:17

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 20/12/2024 22:13

Don't be ridiculous. Why on earth would people eat food they are not fond off, particularly at Christmas.
The madness is stroong on this thread.

My view of Christmas is it should be inclusive, if a person coming to my house won’t eat a particular thing, I’m not going to serve it.Be it meat/ fish/ offal I’m not serving it up on that day.

KnigCnut · 20/12/2024 22:17

Sounds like you are offering what I would call picnic food, not a magnificent spread. Delicious I am sure, but not a Christmas meal. And if that makes me a bitch, so be it.

Viviennemary · 20/12/2024 22:17

I agree. You are providing the food. She has chosen to come. She can't bring meat.

Avoidingsleep · 20/12/2024 22:18

Why not suggest she bring her own cooked chicken? That way your oven is untarnished, but she gets meat.

If she did Xmas you would expect her to provide a vegan option. This way she isn’t adding to your cooking or sullying your oven. I get it is against your morals, but surely everyone needs love and acceptance.
you would expect her to provide a vegan menu for you if she hosted, she isn’t even asking you to provide a non vegan item, just if she can bring something extra for herself.

Meet her in the middle and suggest she cook it beforehand.

Dollshousedolly · 20/12/2024 22:18

nocoolnamesleft · 20/12/2024 22:05

Your meal sounds singularly disappointing, and not at all a magnificent feast. But I still wouldn't bring meat to your house. I'd make damn sure I had a proper Christmas dinner the day before or after. But at my house, not yours. And would just go hungry at your place.

And what would your magnificent vegan feast consist of ??

BrendaSmall · 20/12/2024 22:18

You’re expecting her to eat your food at your house a
not take along what she likes to eat, what would you do if she invited you to her house and expected you to eat what she cooks, meat??

Renamed · 20/12/2024 22:19

Your food sounds like my favourite food OP especially if there’s a spinach pie in there… no way should she expect to cook a chicken in your oven! If she wants to bring some cooked chicken/ charcuterie I guess that could be ok?

NiftyKoala · 20/12/2024 22:19

It doesn't matter who likes your menu and who doesn't. You DH and DC do. She can't ear all the meat she wants in her own home.

Wrappingpapere · 20/12/2024 22:20

Workingclasslass · 20/12/2024 22:00

Okay, I accept that you don’t want any animal in your kitchen to be cooked because that goes against your morals fair enough but I quite frankly at your menu probably would stay at home on my own and maybe your sister is thinking she doesn’t want your food in a polite way, but if that’s the way then maybe she’s just stay at home too on her own and have Christmas by herself which is fair enough.

Edited

You would rather stay at home on your own at Christmas just so you can eat chicken?!?!?!

nocoolnamesleft · 20/12/2024 22:20

Dollshousedolly · 20/12/2024 22:18

And what would your magnificent vegan feast consist of ??

I have endured a significant number of vegan meals. Not one of them was a magnificent feast.

HocusFord · 20/12/2024 22:20

KnigCnut · 20/12/2024 22:17

Sounds like you are offering what I would call picnic food, not a magnificent spread. Delicious I am sure, but not a Christmas meal. And if that makes me a bitch, so be it.

Sounds like you don’t know what a tagine is.

Plitterfced · 20/12/2024 22:21

Imagine not eating meat for one day being so important to so many people. I’m truly baffled. 😮!

LightDrizzle · 20/12/2024 22:21

I think you are totally reasonable but as she’s family and had a rough time I’d go out of my way by asking if she has any vegan ideas she fancies in addition to your proposed menu. Is she Middle Eastern? If it’s English Christmas flavours she fancies you could probably include something vegan that incorporates sage and onion and accompany with spiced red cabbage if you wanted to be very kind.

If you need to explain maybe you could say it’s a bit like being a non-smoker and someone asking if they can smoke in your house: you wouldn’t seek to stop a smoker smoking in their own house or where it’s permitted, nor would you expect them not to smoke at their home if you were visiting, even though you wouldn’t enjoy it, but having someone smoke/ prepare and eat meat into your own kitchen just isn’t something you want and fairly or unfairly it would spoil the meal for you entirely.

I’m an omnivorous Christmas Dinner nut and love goose with devils on horseback and all the trimmings and sauces so I’d be contemplating the vegan lunch without great enthusiasm for the food on that day but I’d mask that and enjoy the company and occasion and cook my dream Christmas dinner on either the 24th, 26th or on New Year’s Day. It’s not a biggy.

I hope it goes well and there’s no bad feeling. There shouldn’t be as you are kindly hosting her.

Morecoffeeforme · 20/12/2024 22:21

LostTheMarble · 20/12/2024 22:14

Christmas meal, not just any meal. This is unbelievably reminiscent of the salad thread the other day, I’d bet a Christmas cracker it’s the same person on a wind up. So I’ll bow out, I suspect HQ are fully in Christmas mode and don’t particularly care for low level wind ups.

Christmas meal!! Of all things!

Well the sister should be bringing Turkey and all the trimmings then shouldn’t she! How dare she bring chicken for the sacred Christmas meal!

Youd be horrified to hear about the year we went to the local curry house for our Christmas Day lunch! We all had the veggie thali you’ll be pleased to hear (not! 🤣)

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 20/12/2024 22:21

KnigCnut · 20/12/2024 22:17

Sounds like you are offering what I would call picnic food, not a magnificent spread. Delicious I am sure, but not a Christmas meal. And if that makes me a bitch, so be it.

If the cap fits..
And who are you to determine what is acceptable Christmas food? Are you the founder of the food police?

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