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To not let my sister bring her own meat on Christmas day!

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FelizNavidadAmiga · 20/12/2024 21:33

First off, we are a strictly vegan household for moral reasons. I invited my sister for Christmas lunch as she is recently divorced and has nowhere else to go. I usually put on a magnificent spread with roast vegetables, tagine, stuffed peppers, vine leaves, falafel, home made hummus etc. My sister has just sent me a message saying she's going to bring her own chicken to cook. AIBU to say no way! I don't want chicken cooking in my nice clean vegan oven! Plus the smell makes me feel ill 🤢 I don't want to upset her as she's very sensitive at the moment but surely she can do without chicken for 1 day.

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StaunchMomma · 20/12/2024 22:04

MaMoosie · 20/12/2024 21:53

I think she should be allowed to bring it with her already cooked. Would she not cater to you if you were to go to hers? Catering to vegans when you’re not vegan is a huge pain in the ass.

It's different when there is a moral element, though.

Lots of vegetarian and vegan food is delicious, meat eater or not, and everyone can have some. It's also made form foods nobody is offended by.

Having meat in your house feels very different when you are strongly against it and, as OP already stated, the smell of cooked meat makes her feel nauseous.

Not really the same.

Poppyseeds79 · 20/12/2024 22:05

I turned vegetarian in my teens and on Christmas day I'd obviously skip the meat products and just plate up veggies for myself. I never really considered that everyone else choosing to eat meat on their plate was an issue. I made my choices and they made theirs...

Are you against her bringing the pre cooked chicken OP? If you are then absolutely just ask her to eat before or after her visit. She could sit in her car to eat a chicken sandwich if it's so non negotiable for both of you.

OOlivePenderghast · 20/12/2024 22:05

I think she is being unreasonable but could you compromise with cheese? Although appreciate that’s not Christmassy. I feel like that’s the only thing I would miss from your menu.

nocoolnamesleft · 20/12/2024 22:05

Your meal sounds singularly disappointing, and not at all a magnificent feast. But I still wouldn't bring meat to your house. I'd make damn sure I had a proper Christmas dinner the day before or after. But at my house, not yours. And would just go hungry at your place.

Morecoffeeforme · 20/12/2024 22:06

Vaxtable · 20/12/2024 21:47

I think she should be able to bring already cooked chicken should she wish, as a host you should be prepared to accommodate

Cerrainly it’s expected that meat eaters have to accommodate vegan and vegetarian friends, so I fail to see why it shouldn’t work the other way

Edited

Nope!

Because meat eaters can eat veg food and be fine. Doesn’t work the other way round

Plitterfced · 20/12/2024 22:06

HocusFord · 20/12/2024 21:47

You can tell which posters on here think putting marmalade glaze on a gammon counts as exotic fare.

Absolutely 🤣🤣🤣 can’t believe some of the comments on what sounds like a beautiful menu!

IAm16StoneHalloween2024 · 20/12/2024 22:07

@FelizNavidadAmiga what about sharing your Christmas recipes? Here, or in the vegan section? I’m sorted for Christmas Day but new recipes are always welcome.

Dollshousedolly · 20/12/2024 22:09

ElinAlma · 20/12/2024 21:36

Not unreasonable to say no.
But unreasonable to call this food: roast vegetables, tagine, stuffed peppers, vine leaves, falafel, home made hummus etc, a magnificent spread.

That's very bog standard food and not anything magnificent for a festive meal.

Edited

That’s a mean comment. Most components of a Christmas dinner are bog standard too, it’s just all the various dishes at one meal that make it special really. Not everyday you’d have two meats, potatoes served two or three ways, a selection of veg, gravy, sauces, etc all at one meal.

The OP’s Christmas dinner is a lovely selection of dishes, that you wouldn’t usually serve all of them at one meal.

Soubriquet · 20/12/2024 22:09

I do think it’s very rude to bring a chicken to cook in your house. Would you allow an already cooked chicken if she brought it on her own plate or is that still a no?

LostTheMarble · 20/12/2024 22:09

Plitterfced · 20/12/2024 22:03

🤣🤣🤣🤣 and a roast chicken truly is the pinnacle of a magnificent feast!
like in what reality is beautiful tagine, falafel, vine leaves and hummus less of a feast than a £4 shitty roast chicken?

On Christmas Day? If I was going through a shit time and my closest loved ones invited me over for vegetables and leaves for my Xmas dinner, I’d probably give up and go drink Baileys down the park with a rotisserie chicken from Sainsburys.

Delphiniumandlupins · 20/12/2024 22:10

Vaxtable · 20/12/2024 21:47

I think she should be able to bring already cooked chicken should she wish, as a host you should be prepared to accommodate

Cerrainly it’s expected that meat eaters have to accommodate vegan and vegetarian friends, so I fail to see why it shouldn’t work the other way

Edited

Because carnivores are not offended by having vegetables on their table/in their kitchen. Vegans and vegetarians are likely to have ethical reasons why they don't want to be around meat. So it's not comparable.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 20/12/2024 22:10

Lulubear50 · 20/12/2024 21:36

There is no middle way here. She either comes with no chicken or she can make other arrangements for Christmas Day.

This.
No way is anyone cooking a dead animal in my house, or making my house smell of it. 🤢
Your food sounds delicious, OP.

Plitterfced · 20/12/2024 22:10

FelizNavidadAmiga · 20/12/2024 21:33

First off, we are a strictly vegan household for moral reasons. I invited my sister for Christmas lunch as she is recently divorced and has nowhere else to go. I usually put on a magnificent spread with roast vegetables, tagine, stuffed peppers, vine leaves, falafel, home made hummus etc. My sister has just sent me a message saying she's going to bring her own chicken to cook. AIBU to say no way! I don't want chicken cooking in my nice clean vegan oven! Plus the smell makes me feel ill 🤢 I don't want to upset her as she's very sensitive at the moment but surely she can do without chicken for 1 day.

YANBU, I’m veggie for 20+ years but I do cook meat for my family all the time so not fussy about meat in the house however, I cannot stand grown adults acting like morons about meat. Tell her get a fucking grip, and she can go to KFC on the way and fill up on a chicken bucket before she arrives if she’s that desperate.

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 20/12/2024 22:10

Given that most vegan food (i.e. the crap made to look and/or taste like meat/fish), is made by processes that fuck the planet, unless you do not eat such crap, a vegan stance is disingenuous.

However, as a veggie, I wouldn't want a rogue chicken at my table. Tell her to eat your food or stay away.

Morecoffeeforme · 20/12/2024 22:10

LostTheMarble · 20/12/2024 22:09

On Christmas Day? If I was going through a shit time and my closest loved ones invited me over for vegetables and leaves for my Xmas dinner, I’d probably give up and go drink Baileys down the park with a rotisserie chicken from Sainsburys.

Vegetables and leaves 🤣

The OPs meal sounds delicious! And off you pop down the park just because you can’t have your precious meat for one meal 🙄🙄

Onlycoffee · 20/12/2024 22:11

I can't believe all the pp who don't understand the difference between a vegan not wanting meat in their kitchen and meat eaters having to cater to vegan/vegetarian guests.
You really don't understand the difference??

Op YANBU. Your sister shouldn't be rude and your menu sounds amazing!

Wonderi · 20/12/2024 22:11

Can you compromise and ask her to precook it?

I’m not sure why you’d have an issue with it being cooked there but it’s your home and so you can set the rules.

WalterdelaMare · 20/12/2024 22:11

Surely a compromise would be that she brings pre-cooked meat?

LostTheMarble · 20/12/2024 22:12

Morecoffeeforme · 20/12/2024 22:06

Nope!

Because meat eaters can eat veg food and be fine. Doesn’t work the other way round

The op would be fine eating meat, she just chooses not to. She can eat meat, she chooses not to, and in the same vein her sister could eat hummus but wants chicken instead.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 20/12/2024 22:12

It's a bit tough, but I think you should bend to be a good and kind host. I would cook a chicken dish, middle eastern spices, and serve it. The luxury of living in rich countries is being able to choose food preferences. You choose vegan. Your sister doesn't. A gracious host serves food a guest would enjoy.

NoBodyIdRatherBe · 20/12/2024 22:13

Your dinner sounds lush! I’m veggie but will be serving up meat as I’m the only vegetarian in the family so I don’t get the time to make the veggie stuff I’d prefer. She can go outside and eat a burger with the smokers.

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 20/12/2024 22:13

Mum2jenny · 20/12/2024 21:40

Most ppl will eat food they’re not fond of for a day, it’s not a too unreasonable concept. It just depends if the ppl they are visiting are seen to be more important than the food on offer.

Don't be ridiculous. Why on earth would people eat food they are not fond off, particularly at Christmas.
The madness is stroong on this thread.

LostTheMarble · 20/12/2024 22:14

Morecoffeeforme · 20/12/2024 22:10

Vegetables and leaves 🤣

The OPs meal sounds delicious! And off you pop down the park just because you can’t have your precious meat for one meal 🙄🙄

Christmas meal, not just any meal. This is unbelievably reminiscent of the salad thread the other day, I’d bet a Christmas cracker it’s the same person on a wind up. So I’ll bow out, I suspect HQ are fully in Christmas mode and don’t particularly care for low level wind ups.

Behindthethymes · 20/12/2024 22:14

As someone accommodating IBS, diabetes, ARFID and vegan requirements this Christmas, I think a reasonable compromise would be asking her to bring the chicken cooked.

NiftyKoala · 20/12/2024 22:14

I am a meat eater and I still think your sister is 1000% wrong. My sister is vegan I would never ever do this to her or even THINK to do this. She can cook al the chicken she wants, in her own home.

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