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To not let my sister bring her own meat on Christmas day!

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FelizNavidadAmiga · 20/12/2024 21:33

First off, we are a strictly vegan household for moral reasons. I invited my sister for Christmas lunch as she is recently divorced and has nowhere else to go. I usually put on a magnificent spread with roast vegetables, tagine, stuffed peppers, vine leaves, falafel, home made hummus etc. My sister has just sent me a message saying she's going to bring her own chicken to cook. AIBU to say no way! I don't want chicken cooking in my nice clean vegan oven! Plus the smell makes me feel ill 🤢 I don't want to upset her as she's very sensitive at the moment but surely she can do without chicken for 1 day.

OP posts:
Lottie6712 · 21/12/2024 10:04

I think it's completely mad to bring meat to a vegan household. (Also very odd not to be grateful for being hosted and accept the meal that's being served...) Your menu sounds delicious!

RampantIvy · 21/12/2024 10:05

MaMoosie · 20/12/2024 21:53

I think she should be allowed to bring it with her already cooked. Would she not cater to you if you were to go to hers? Catering to vegans when you’re not vegan is a huge pain in the ass.

Only if you lack imagination and don't understand how Google works Hmm

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 21/12/2024 10:05

PerditaLaChien · 21/12/2024 09:57

Your offering sounds quite low in protein and not really in keeping with the point of secular (eg. Yule origin) Christmas, which is basically a seasonal, local midwinter "feast".

I understand you not wanting meat cooked in your oven but perhaps suggest she brings some cooked in advance instead?

I think its a pity to spoil someone else's special festive meal by restricting their food choices. I'd be absolutely gutted if someone expected me to have a vegan Christmas lunch without the traditional foods.

There are many non animal sources of protein. Even if by some gastronomic miracle OP managed to miss all of them the absence of protein for one day won't matter.

Rosscameasdoody · 21/12/2024 10:05

PerditaLaChien · 21/12/2024 09:57

Your offering sounds quite low in protein and not really in keeping with the point of secular (eg. Yule origin) Christmas, which is basically a seasonal, local midwinter "feast".

I understand you not wanting meat cooked in your oven but perhaps suggest she brings some cooked in advance instead?

I think its a pity to spoil someone else's special festive meal by restricting their food choices. I'd be absolutely gutted if someone expected me to have a vegan Christmas lunch without the traditional foods.

I'd be absolutely gutted if someone expected me to have a vegan Christmas lunch without the traditional foods.

So then you would, understandably, decline the invitation, not rock up with a raw chicken ?

ueberlin2030 · 21/12/2024 10:05

soupfiend · 21/12/2024 09:59

What do you mean 'not enjoy it'

A tagine is a cooking pot in which you do any number of dishes, you can cook anything in it, its the style of cooking and the way the heat works in it that means its a 'tagine'.

They're conveinent little pots, apart from storing the thing.

A tagine is also a food dish, and I presume pp weren't referring to eating cooking receptacles.
I can only assume you thought you were being clever....

SequoiaTree · 21/12/2024 10:06

I'm doing a traditional Christmas dinner but I'd be delighted to be served your meal. Especially having it cooked for me

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 21/12/2024 10:06

RampantIvy · 21/12/2024 10:05

Only if you lack imagination and don't understand how Google works Hmm

To be fair lacking in imagination and being unable to use Google isn't that uncommon on MN !

Rosscameasdoody · 21/12/2024 10:07

ueberlin2030 · 21/12/2024 10:05

A tagine is also a food dish, and I presume pp weren't referring to eating cooking receptacles.
I can only assume you thought you were being clever....

’Tagine’ doesn’t describe one food dish though - there are many forms and many recipes.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 21/12/2024 10:08

Isn't a lot of this just about tradition? If this was any other time of year, would people still be so critical of the OP's menu? I suspect a lot is just deeply rooted in the ingrained tradition of turkey, veg, plum pudding etc. because some comments here give the impression that there is actually fear of deviating from the norm. It's almost superstition. What do people think will happen if they don't eat poultry at Christmas? Why bow to pressure to eat exactly the same as everyone else? Never understood it.
We are not a vegan household, but the OP's Yuletide feast sounds wonderful to us!

ueberlin2030 · 21/12/2024 10:08

Rosscameasdoody · 21/12/2024 10:07

’Tagine’ doesn’t describe one food dish though - there are many forms and many recipes.

Yes, and maybe pp have never enjoyed anything cooked this way?

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 21/12/2024 10:09

ueberlin2030 · 21/12/2024 09:52

Chips are just food that anyone not allergic to potato, or anything they're prepared in, can eat.

They are also vegan. Apparently some posters never eat vegan food/ can't stand vegan food, blah blah.

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 10:10

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 21/12/2024 02:08

I get it. There's a lot of foods I just can't eat either and most of them are on the OP's menu. It sounds like my idea of food hell.

I don't know if the OP's sister feels the same.

And btw I have an MSc with distinction....

But there is a simple solution. The sister can decline the invitation.

CurlewKate · 21/12/2024 10:10

@ueberlin2030 "It depends on what the vegan food is tbh. I refuse to eat something which has clocked up more airlines than me in the last month"

Let's hope you apply the same scrutiny to a traditional Christmas Lunch.

soupfiend · 21/12/2024 10:11

ooooohnoooooo · 21/12/2024 08:58

That looks amazing and not 'everyday'

I think posters have misunderstood some of the posts saying that OPs spread is not 'festive' and that its 'everyday food'.

The whole point of celebration food is that its not something you have every day for tea. Most people dont have a turkey roast for tea. A lot of people (Im one of them, having OPs food for tea/lunch most weeks), its everyday standard food, its not that different. No one is saying its not delicious, of course it is otherwise I for example. wouldnt eat it as often as I do. We have some stuff vine leaves in the fridge now for example, I make my own houmous, we have roasted veg and use a tagine often, mainly for chickpea dishes, stuffed peppers are a nice easy simple dish that is good for dinner.

ueberlin2030 · 21/12/2024 10:11

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 21/12/2024 10:09

They are also vegan. Apparently some posters never eat vegan food/ can't stand vegan food, blah blah.

They're just food imho, food that anyone not allergic to potatoes/the cooking oil can eat. TBH where I live a lot of chips are cooking in dripping, so not suitable for a strict veggie/vegan.

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 10:12

minipie · 21/12/2024 02:11

People bring food all the time when staying with family at Christmas, don’t they? We certainly do - eg a pudding for our kids as they don’t like Christmas pudding.

But not food they know the host specifically doesn’t want in the house!

ueberlin2030 · 21/12/2024 10:12

CurlewKate · 21/12/2024 10:10

@ueberlin2030 "It depends on what the vegan food is tbh. I refuse to eat something which has clocked up more airlines than me in the last month"

Let's hope you apply the same scrutiny to a traditional Christmas Lunch.

Yes. I am lucky to live somewhere with decent local produce and try to eat seasonally. Not always easy though. I aim for Scottish or British, or EU at a push.

CurlewKate · 21/12/2024 10:12

Also- some people seem to be completely unaware of the cuisine of the Middle East!

CurlewKate · 21/12/2024 10:15

@ueberlin2030 so no mince pies? No cranberry sauce. No carrots, or broccoli. No chocolate. No tea or coffee.

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 10:15

Topsyturvy78 · 21/12/2024 02:33

Because as someone else has said further up vegans would expect to be catered for in a meat eating household. So why shouldn't a meat eater be catered for in a vegan household?

I don’t believe that you don’t understand this.

ueberlin2030 · 21/12/2024 10:15

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 21/12/2024 10:06

To be fair lacking in imagination and being unable to use Google isn't that uncommon on MN !

If I'm cooking for people I prefer to make things I'm familiar with cooking - that's maybe why some non-vegans are less confident with a new recipe for a vegan suitable main? Not everyone can afford to buy all the ingredients to practice in advance. Luckily I cook a lot of veggie food so could adapt to be vegan but some folk just don't. A vegan at my house would enjoy all the vegetable and pulse based sides hopefully though.

ueberlin2030 · 21/12/2024 10:18

CurlewKate · 21/12/2024 10:15

@ueberlin2030 so no mince pies? No cranberry sauce. No carrots, or broccoli. No chocolate. No tea or coffee.

I don't drink tea or coffee.
Scottish/British chocolate exists, as do carrots. I don't eat broccoli. Mince pies I can take or leave. We have some cranberry sauce, so that's one exception. I do try because it's important to me.

soupfiend · 21/12/2024 10:19

ueberlin2030 · 21/12/2024 10:05

A tagine is also a food dish, and I presume pp weren't referring to eating cooking receptacles.
I can only assume you thought you were being clever....

No. A 'tagine' isnt just one dish, what dish do you think it is then?

WinterCrow · 21/12/2024 10:19

FelizNavidadAmiga · 20/12/2024 21:42

I'm open to suggestions. What would you bring?

I'd love falafel in flat-bread with salad & vegetables, but would ask if I could bring some vegan yogurt to mix with a spicy sauce and pickled chillies to go on top.

I wouldn't bring anything non-vegan, just like I wouldn't go to my jewish friend's house to eat and take my own pork chop. I mean, why would you?

ueberlin2030 · 21/12/2024 10:20

CurlewKate · 21/12/2024 10:12

Also- some people seem to be completely unaware of the cuisine of the Middle East!

Some of us are aware of it but have not enjoyed some of it several times. TBH though, it's quite privileged to judge folk who haven't been exposed to all the foods of the world.

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