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To not let my sister bring her own meat on Christmas day!

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FelizNavidadAmiga · 20/12/2024 21:33

First off, we are a strictly vegan household for moral reasons. I invited my sister for Christmas lunch as she is recently divorced and has nowhere else to go. I usually put on a magnificent spread with roast vegetables, tagine, stuffed peppers, vine leaves, falafel, home made hummus etc. My sister has just sent me a message saying she's going to bring her own chicken to cook. AIBU to say no way! I don't want chicken cooking in my nice clean vegan oven! Plus the smell makes me feel ill 🤢 I don't want to upset her as she's very sensitive at the moment but surely she can do without chicken for 1 day.

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Tbry24 · 20/12/2024 23:06

Vaxtable · 20/12/2024 21:47

I think she should be able to bring already cooked chicken should she wish, as a host you should be prepared to accommodate

Cerrainly it’s expected that meat eaters have to accommodate vegan and vegetarian friends, so I fail to see why it shouldn’t work the other way

Edited

Because it’s a food we don’t eat or want cooked near us. whereas the OP is cooking food everyone can enjoy.

And as a vegetarian I don’t expect people to accommodate me or do anything different I would eat what’s vegetarian from what they are cooking. If that’s nothing I won’t be eating.

TheCatterall · 20/12/2024 23:06

@FelizNavidadAmiga meat eating white British person here and I would f’ing love your magnificent spread.

your sister can do without meat for one day and if she can’t she can eat at her own home.

I find it incredibly disrespectful that someone would expect to bring, cook and serve meat in a vegan household.

Keep your boundaries. You are a meat free household and she should respect that.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 20/12/2024 23:07

Balloonhearts · 20/12/2024 23:04

Well if its the vegans on this thread they reckon they should suck it up and respect the house rules!

I wouldn't have the slightest difficulty cooking for a vegan. Husband and I cook vegan food more than non vegan food.

QuestionableMouse · 20/12/2024 23:09

Plitterfced · 20/12/2024 22:06

Absolutely 🤣🤣🤣 can’t believe some of the comments on what sounds like a beautiful menu!

It's not necessarily that more traditional Christmas food is more exotic, it's that for me that sort of food doesn't sit well with me - every time I've had vine leaves I've had the most awful stomach cramps all day.

Goblinchristmas · 20/12/2024 23:09

Most quorn isn’t vegan.
As a vegetarian I wouldn’t let her cook chicken in my oven but I would want roast potatoes and maple glazed carrots and parsnips. Prefer honey, but not vegan. Also I love brussel sprouts so would want to bring my own little plate of food and some vegan gravy.
Then I would have some of your buffet food. I eat roasted veg and hummus a couple of times a week. Don’t like really like tagine but hopefully some nice bread.
I would go to my car to drink my tea and coffee with milk ( as have tried the alternatives and I don’t like them)

Isatis · 20/12/2024 23:10

Do you ever eat at her house, OP? How does she cater for you?

5128gap · 20/12/2024 23:10

I'm vegan and I'd allow meat to be eaten in my home. It's a personal choice, but I genuinely don't judge other people for making a different one or push it on to people. I think its fair to say it can't be prepped or cooked in your kitchen though but I'd not stop someone eating their choice of food at my table, any more than I'd refuse to eat at a restaurant with someone eating meat.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 20/12/2024 23:10

ttcat37 · 20/12/2024 23:00

Only on Mumsnet would stuffed peppers and vine leaves be called ‘very bog standard food’

And by people who think chicken and turkey are the be all and end all of a celebratory meal. Chicken especially is so dull.

PokerFriedDips · 20/12/2024 23:12

Yanbu it is reasonable for a vegan kitchen to stay vegan and not have meat in the house, but you should help her find an alternative place to go for Christmas Day if she doesn't want to eat vegan on thr day. Are there other family members or friends she could go to?

You have every right to stick to your principles. She has every right to feel that falafel and vegan lasagne don't make what she would consider a festive meal.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 20/12/2024 23:14

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 20/12/2024 22:16

Pathetic

You're pathetic

Dollshousedolly · 20/12/2024 23:14

There are ridiculous comments on this thread saying the meal wouldn’t be filling, - really hummus and falafel on the side or as a starter, followed by a bowl of tagine and roasted veg isn’t filling, not to mention the stuffed vine leaves and peppers ?? Some of you must have huge appetites.

It’s picnic food - some of you must have magnificent picnics altogether!

The hummus would be more of a snack food - when it may well be part of a starter for all we know.

The funniest comments are those saying that the meal has no carbohydrates.

marmia1234 · 20/12/2024 23:14

Plitterfced · 20/12/2024 23:06

FYI - most veg are mainly carbs 🤣🤣🤣

Most green veg are less than 3% carb. You might be thinking of potatoes.

Balloonhearts · 20/12/2024 23:15

broccolienthusiast · 20/12/2024 22:26

You mention the word “vegan” and everyone loses their shit 😂 this place is worse than reddit

Not quite. You have to really go some to be worse than reddit. Worse than Quora, I'll grant you 🤣 I've just been called a bitch and a troll over there for pointing out that trying to recover illegal property from a thieving neighbour would get the op arrested for possessing it in the first place. Nowt as queer as t'internet.

Pleiades2020 · 20/12/2024 23:15

YANBU. It's your house, your kitchen, your oven. And it's Christmas, it's about being with people the food is unimportant really if you think about it. I mean, the traditional meal is just a dead bird and vegetables, nothing special. Your meal sounds delicious.

I don't think people realise just how greasy meat makes an oven. When I moved into my home the oven was broken so I had to get a new one. I love knowing that no meat has ever been inside it. It also doesn't get very dirty.

To many vegans and vegetarians the small of cooking meat is really grim.

ManchesterLu · 20/12/2024 23:15

The best way to solve this is that you eat as separate households and then meet for drinks later on.

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 20/12/2024 23:15

MumOfOneAllAlone · 20/12/2024 23:14

You're pathetic

Oh, are we playing that game?
Proves the point.

Edingril · 20/12/2024 23:17

When we have guests we have a variety of food and leave moral choices to the people eating it

We don't need to feel superior and dictate to others what they are allowed to eat or not it is up to them

ttcat37 · 20/12/2024 23:17

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 20/12/2024 23:10

And by people who think chicken and turkey are the be all and end all of a celebratory meal. Chicken especially is so dull.

Agreed. When I ate meat, I dreaded turkey. It’s so unpopular I don’t think I’ve ever known anyone eat it apart from at Christmas. The concept of eating what you really enjoy on Christmas Day seems to be very alien to many.

Foreverchangeable · 20/12/2024 23:17

Sorry, haven't read the full thread. I'll be having a vegan Christmas lunch but it'll be something akin to the traditional roast ( mainly to fit in tbh). Although your lunch sounds lovely, would a fake turkey roast/ vegan wellington etc please her and not offend you?

Sunshine1500 · 20/12/2024 23:17

Your food sounds delicious, however I’d maybe compromise and let her bring her own portion of cooked chicken if it makes her happy. I definitely think it’s extremely cheeky to expect to cook it in your oven.

Plitterfced · 20/12/2024 23:18

marmia1234 · 20/12/2024 23:14

Most green veg are less than 3% carb. You might be thinking of potatoes.

broaden your horizons. The wonderful thing about veg is they come in lots of different colours, and you are also Incorrect 👍🏼

Balloonhearts · 20/12/2024 23:22

WishinAndHopin · 20/12/2024 23:04

You are shaming vegans by labelling us as "judgy" and unhealthy. You are a hypocrite.

To be fair if we're going off the back of this thread, judgy isn't an unfair descriptor.

Can everyone not just calm down and accept that no one is actually being unreasonable in this scenario? * AIBU implodes *

OP only likes vegan food. Sister does not like vegan food and has asked to bring her own. Op, quite reasonably does not like the idea of meat in her house.

We're seeing the same effect on here, each group judging the other. It's not on. Not everyone likes the same things. Doesn't mean the people who do or don't eat things like stuffed peppers are superior.

Isittimeformynapyet · 20/12/2024 23:23

A tagine is pretty much a "good thick soup".

"Slow roasted" butternut squash is the same as roasted butternut squash - basically an orange smoosh.

And vegan haggis is one of the most upsetting things I've ever eaten.

Can't go wrong with a nut roast with a tomatoey gravy with all the usual Christmas stuff for me. No roast potatoes, no Christmas 🎄

marmia1234 · 20/12/2024 23:27

I'm just pointing out that "veg are mostly carbs" is wrong. Even potatoes are less than 20% and that's the highest. There are lots in between 20 and 1 but none are "mostly" carbs. And my horizons are broad thanks.
Legumes are a different matter.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/12/2024 23:27

Delphiniumandlupins · 20/12/2024 22:10

Because carnivores are not offended by having vegetables on their table/in their kitchen. Vegans and vegetarians are likely to have ethical reasons why they don't want to be around meat. So it's not comparable.

Exactly. Incredible that this should need to be spelled out.

Also incredible that a family of Middle Eastern heritage eating a traditional feast day menu seems incomprehensible to so many. How can you not grasp that different cultures have different traditions? Why would you think that a Middle Eastern feast would leave you feeling hungry? I love that sort of food. It tastes great and it's very filling. If OP's sister doesn't fancy it, she will have to make other arrangements.

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