To be worried about what the Labour government will do next?

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Let's be honest, Labour has been a massive disappointment for this country, pissing off the pensioners with taking away the WFA, the farmers, NI changes which impact employers, immigration etc and today refusing compensation to the WASPI women after they ridiculed the Conservatives when they didn't commit to a solution. Don't we deserve better than this constant shit show of lies and deceptions which were clearly spouted out purely to gain power?
For the 1st time in my life, I worry about where we are heading.

Again. In your view. Which has been challenged here by greater intellects than mine.

Yes I would hope so.

Again. In your view. Which has been challenged here by greater intellects than mine.

You flatter those Labour mn posts as expected but still not correct

All posts have citing from BoE and S&P

Did you miss the BoE quote below?

As far as I know, no.

Won’t make much difference to Starmer dc. They could have gone anywhere with their parental connections. Oh! Wait a minute! They did, didn’t they. A multimillion £ flat to revise. Some state education. I would respect all these Labour people more if they put their money where the crap schools are. Let’s see if they, as parents, get round to improving them.

As far as I know, no.

It's a credible source why do you defer to some Labour mners over that?

I don't really care actually any more. I don't think Labour know what equality means since the budget. Preferential treatment for the public sector. Unequal treatment for everyone else. They can't shrilly cry about private school kids now when they are shafting farmers, WASPIs, young people, pensioners etc. It's one rule for Labour one rule for everyone else. So I'm afraid your argument doesn't work any more. If you argue "equality" you have to apply it equally to everyone.

Not my area of knowledge.

Terrible. We haven't got the money for that sort of luxury. When you ask farmers to die to fund the NHS, idealogical fiddling is disastrous. As we are seeing.

Well my mortgage went up by £500 a month thanks to Liz Truss and the Tory govt. our public services are decimated look at the mess the water companies are in! All the papers owned by billionaires unsurprisingly detest labour and are coming after them hard, yet when Truss messed up they let that go very quickly. Plus if she hadn’t backed down when she did we would have lost more money off our pensions as the Bank of England couldn’t intervene any more when she experimented with our economy. So no I am not worried about Labour.

Not my area of knowledge.

Yes I'm sure but it's the BoE, most will see it as a good source

I wonder if Reeves has a similar style atm. Just ignore stuff

Are you actually agreeing that this policy is idealogical rather than for money raising reason like RR is claiming? Quite refreshing!

@ChallahPlaiter since you answered yes to this how would you fund the 6,500 extra teachers?

Sure. But inequality is not a single line definition. Is it right to pay compensation to people who may not have actually lost out at all? To absolve a profession from paying IHT when there’s evidence of people taking up that profession as a means of tax avoidance?
The modern day concept of equality isn’t about treating everyone exactly the same. It’s about ensuring equality of opportunity. Nobody can argue that a two tier education system offers that.

Again not my area of expertise.

Unlikely, from the Chancellor.

Well I understand from today's figures that old Rach has actually done worse than Liz Truss vis a vis the bond markets!! Imagine how annoying THAT'S going to be to Rach when she has to argue that ok she's crap but at least Liz Truss was worse. Not so fast now....

Can we afford not to work towards a more equitable society?

Again not my area of expertise.

Unlikely, from the Chancellor.

Idk there seems to be some strong side stepping going on from Labour and on here

You'll notice though that under Labour bond yields haven't exactly come down though.

In fact yesterday the 10 year was at a 15 year high.

Wonder why that is ? (scratches head).

When you say "we" who do you mean? Because Labour aren't working towards a more equitable society (clearly) and unless one of us on this thread is Elon Musk I don't think anyone else can help with this?

As a society.

I see you are arguing that penalising people with tax means equality of opportunity. We all equally have the opportunity to be shafted by taxation. Is that what socialism is? It really is the utopia we all dreamt of.

No I’m not because I don’t see tax as a punishment. I see it as a contribution.

Out of interest do you do the voluntary increased monthly income tax contribution to HMRC? Easy to do via direct debit
Or do you just prefer spending other people's money when it comes to taxation?

Yes. No. Thanks to Labour revealing the hypocrisy of "equality" for all I think that argument has had its day. Ironic really that it took a socialist government to reveal the weakness. As in we are all equally stuffed apart from a chosen few favourites. Remember the Rule of The Socialist. Everyone is equal but some are more equal than others.