To be worried about what the Labour government will do next?

[Scenicgirl]

Let's be honest, Labour has been a massive disappointment for this country, pissing off the pensioners with taking away the WFA, the farmers, NI changes which impact employers, immigration etc and today refusing compensation to the WASPI women after they ridiculed the Conservatives when they didn't commit to a solution. Don't we deserve better than this constant shit show of lies and deceptions which were clearly spouted out purely to gain power?
For the 1st time in my life, I worry about where we are heading.

Really? It pales in comparison to when Liz Truss tanked the economy and sent mortgage rates soaring? It pales in comparison to Johnson and Co having parties when people were dying on hospital trollies? It pales in comparison to the almighty shitshow of Brexit?

Please explain.

He’s making an excellent start of proving his “worth” in Clacton! I wonder if anyone who voted for him is starting to regret it, seeing as he’s more interested in posing in front of Putin-esque portraits of Trump than actually representing his constituents. Does he even have a constituency office yet?

They've had a few months to start to undo the mess the conservatives got us into over the last 14 years. I don't agree with some of the decisions made so far, but I guess they are making unpopular decisions early as it's a long time to the next general election.
I think it's way too early to judge, we need to see how their longer term plan works out.

They're too thick to notice, as long as he throws a few anti immigration anti establishment soundbites their way they'll think he's God still.

No. Although I doubt the press will come out in support of the disabled in the same way as they have the pensioners if she does start cutting their benefits. It will serve them right, be about time too, and the Tories should take note. Or maybe they’ll have amnesia about what Esther McVey and Iain Duncan-Smith did, and speak out against the Government? Who knows?

I am concerned about reform to disability benefits but I think we need to avoid hyperbole. Personally I feel benefits may be limited and removed from people who need them but there’s a lot of fear and anxiety around what will happen next year and we really don’t need to heighten that.

I felt like that for years under tory and before that the condem gov.
Tory would say no money left in the pot so cut all social care....labour have just not given out.. there is a difference

Tbh I'm mote worried about reform, the massive US financial input to them and what reform will do to honor musk for his contribution. I'd juxh rather close ties with the EU than the US which I'd what we are heading for. Then you should be worried...all womens rights, workers rights will be gone.

"Too thick to notice". Nice. You sound like you have a profound and nuanced handle on politics and really understand the motivation of poorer people. I expect you are a Labour supporter, given your disdain for the working class.

I do yet your point, after many years of chaotic government, I think people had really high hopes that Labour would turn things around. And maybe their hopes were too high/unrealistic and they do feel dissapointed, I'm definitely in that group.

The labour policy I was really keen on above all others was the free breakfast clubs for all primary school children across the country, this would have helped my family, and also many families I know where often single mums are stuck in low paying school hour jobs because they can't afford wrap around care, having free wrap around care would have hopefully helped them break out of the poverty trap, raised their earnings, reduced reliance in benefits, raised aspiration and ultimately saved the country money. As a school governor there is a strong link between poor attendance, lower achievement and families on low incomes, and some children are being failed despite the very hard work of the school.
However this has not materialised, except for a very small number of schools, which really disappoints me

Agree. Racists will continue to vote for him, including the elderly ad well as thr usual inbred morons

"ad well as thr usual inbred morons"

Love it

I am working class thanks. Born and bred. Daughter of a single mum who worked two jobs and is still working well into her 60s.

I have the opinions I do on Reform voters because my family is full of them.

How did I know you were going to claim to be "working class"! 50p to me.

You are wrong when you say the NHS is underfunded as though this is something new. It is collapsing now because of the extra numbers they have to treat, which it simply was not designed for, the increasing needs of an ageing population with greater complex needs, the after effects of of Covid-19 pandemic, inability to retain specialist staff, low staff morale and too many people in highly paid jobs who have meetings about meetings, all just the tip of an iceberg as this isn't new, the service has faced years of inadequate planning.

AND PLEASE DO NOT CALL ME A MORON!

If you read the post that I quoted, you will see they said they wanted all children to have equal access to the ‘same education’ which is different to what you are saying, I think people should worry about inequality in state schools as that is where 93% of the school population are educated. It is easy to be like the previous poster and say ‘fuck private schools’ instead of actually campaigning for better and more equal state education. The type of private school children that people get angry about would go abroad to be educated if you got rid of private schools here (many of them aren’t even from the uk anyway), so it is a bit pointless worrying about them.

Can I just ask why this country is giving 3bn to Ukraine?

Why is our country giving them that amount of money?

I've never really understood why our country has given others loads of money when this country needs it. 🧐

Yes I do see your points. I’m obviously concerned about the possibility of Reform/Conservative coalition at the next election, particularly if they get massive funding from Musk and use that in targeted advertising. But I think the risk of Reform forming a majority government is so small as to be non-existent. Also, in 2029 we’ll be at the end of the Trump years and the political landscape may well have changed significantly.
I wonder if the Conservative Party will revolt against Badenoch’s eagerness to turn further towards the radical right and her openness to working with Reform? They’ve come a long way from their roots now and their current position doesn’t seem to resonate with people who’d traditionally support them. The age where people turn from voting Labour to voting Conservative is rising all the time.

Don't be so short sighted. If Russia wins in Ukraine, do you think that has no effect on the rest of the world?

It is in absolutely no one's interest for Russia to win.

People just like to complain. I'm glad Labour are taking difficult decisions that other politicians ignored & put off. I like Starmer.

In 1992 the Tories were still successfully(!!) blaming Labour govt for economic problems (13 yrs after Labour lost power). Now Labour gets blamed for everything in economy even though they didn't make Brexit happen and were out of power for 14 years until 5 months ago. Pah.

There are many positive changes (which would never have happened under the Tories) but the vast amount of positive changes just don’t get reported, for example :
• Increased minimum wage.
• Increased pay for teachers and nurses.
• Increased right to Flexible working for all employees . 

• Increased Unfair dismissal protection.

• Sick pay from day one. 

• Parental leave from day one. 

• Protection from being exploited by Zero-hours contracts

• Increased Protection from sexual harassment.
• Preventing "fire and rehire"
• Increased protection against dismissal for pregnant employees and those returning from maternity leave.

When they won I thought they'd do two or even three terms. Now I wonder if the only thing that keeps them in next time will be Reform splitting the right. Although I can also see Farage winning, not that keen, but how Starmer is using envy as his north star perhaps he wouldn't be much worse, different worse yes...

To be fair it wasn’t exactly smart to vote for a representative who clearly never had any interest in actually representing his constituents.

I’m sure you understood the spirit of the previous post rather than worrying about semantics. I’m equally sure you don’t genuinely think anyone is advocating for the loss of specialised state education in favour of a quasi-communist system.

I think the bookies have Nigel Farage on as the next PM. Who knows anyway. I just wouldn't bet on the status quo these days. Who would predict on 2015 we would be out of the EU a few years later.

Reform are concerning as they have no one with government experience (and also obviously need to make sure they get rid of any wrong sorts). If more Conservatives defect that would change. I don't think this country would vote for an extremist party. I just think the centre ground has shifted left so views that used to be considered pretty centrist are now considered more right wing. People don't like being accused of facisim if they hold views that most people would consider mainstream (eg immigration being top of the list of priorities as well as the economy). If Labour and the Conservatives don't seem to be effective in managing it many people will look elsewhere.