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Are the Radford's massive piss takers?

332 replies

NoEscapingMe · 17/12/2024 18:18

It seems they've cruised along nicely. Thank you tax payer. 20 holidays in 1 year

OP posts:
Dita73 · 17/12/2024 19:32

@Username2532 the conversation will become toxic when discussing a paedophile

Needmorelego · 17/12/2024 19:32

@Startinganew32 I am not defending it.
I don't think it was right at all
I just don't think he is a paedophile. Just a stupid teenage boy who should have had more control over himself.

IsawwhatIsaw · 17/12/2024 19:32

They were shrewd enough to monetise having that huge family. Did any of those children consent to being used in this way? Endless tv shows, promoting the nonsense that they are self sufficient. They are understandably evasive about the benefits they claim, the cost of 21 sets of schooling, healthcare, housing and the rest…..

Startinganew32 · 17/12/2024 19:34

Needmorelego · 17/12/2024 19:32

@Startinganew32 I am not defending it.
I don't think it was right at all
I just don't think he is a paedophile. Just a stupid teenage boy who should have had more control over himself.

But the vast majority of late teens would not go out with a 13 year old.

ARichtGoodDram · 17/12/2024 19:34

Oioisavaloy27 · 17/12/2024 19:30

I don't think they would be eligible for TC because of how much they earn through the bakery which is a fair whack! They charge around £4.50 a pie and I remember him saying how many thousands of pies they sold in a week it was a lot of money.

They absolutely qualified for tax credits when they first hit the tv screens. The way Noel repeatedly dodged answering the question made that very clear.

The pie shop doesn’t make as much money as people assume as well. The figures have been posted online several times before from companies House.

they won’t qualify now with their income, but they certainly previously did.

Startinganew32 · 17/12/2024 19:35

Oioisavaloy27 · 17/12/2024 19:30

I don't think they would be eligible for TC because of how much they earn through the bakery which is a fair whack! They charge around £4.50 a pie and I remember him saying how many thousands of pies they sold in a week it was a lot of money.

Oh wow, £4.50? I doubt they sell thousands. Can you buy them in tescos? If it’s just Noel and some of the kids running it then no way do they bring in megabucks from the pie business.

Livelovebehappy · 17/12/2024 19:35

Can't be all fun and games being filmed for the TV programs. Children sre unpredictable little buggers - I would be stressed out to the hilt having to control 22 kids whilst being televised. But I guess it makes money and stops them depending on benefits, like a lot of those with kids who sit on their arses, not working, and taking from the tax payers.

IVFmumoftwo · 17/12/2024 19:36

MamaClausToTheRescue · 17/12/2024 18:50

didn’t they both either grow up in care or have a difficult start in life? If so, no judgement from me and well done to them both for what they’ve achieved.

i didn’t know they were doing tv and content creation but i know who they are because many years ago, back when ‘baby boards’ were a thing on babycentre (maybe they’re still a thing?), Sue R was one of the normal posters about her pregnancy and mentioned she had so many other kids. Then at one point said they were actually going to be on tv. Then years later I saw something about them in the paper or on tv and realised who they were.

Yeah I think I read some of her posts on there.

Needmorelego · 17/12/2024 19:38

@Startinganew32 yes the vast majority of late teens wouldn't date and sleep with 13 year olds. Most are (thankfully) not that stupid.
I'm just saying I don't think he is a paedophile. If he was he wouldn't have stuck with her. He would have found another 13 year old. Which is disgusting and gross.

Uricon2 · 17/12/2024 19:39

I have never followed them but know who they are. The huge Victorian and Edwardian families and probably those from centuries before (at least among the working class) were also predicated on older children looking after the younger ones. Sometimes it worked out OK and close relationships were forged, but it is not an ideal in the modern age, is it? I see no focus on achieving what they can in education and more importantly, a proper childhood, where parents do the parenting.

Startinganew32 · 17/12/2024 19:41

Uricon2 · 17/12/2024 19:39

I have never followed them but know who they are. The huge Victorian and Edwardian families and probably those from centuries before (at least among the working class) were also predicated on older children looking after the younger ones. Sometimes it worked out OK and close relationships were forged, but it is not an ideal in the modern age, is it? I see no focus on achieving what they can in education and more importantly, a proper childhood, where parents do the parenting.

Edited

Also in those families the parents had maybe 10 kids, not 20 and normally at least a few of them would die before they turned 5. And it was probably a miserable existence for all involved.

SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 17/12/2024 19:42

Bignanna · 17/12/2024 19:26

The opposite, I should think!

I doubt they give a shiny shite either way.

I could be wrong.

Oioisavaloy27 · 17/12/2024 19:42

Startinganew32 · 17/12/2024 19:35

Oh wow, £4.50? I doubt they sell thousands. Can you buy them in tescos? If it’s just Noel and some of the kids running it then no way do they bring in megabucks from the pie business.

They obviously sell them from their shop they sell online as well and they supply a chain of pubs as well as other places. Tesco no!

Startinganew32 · 17/12/2024 19:43

Oioisavaloy27 · 17/12/2024 19:42

They obviously sell them from their shop they sell online as well and they supply a chain of pubs as well as other places. Tesco no!

If they were making thousands of pies a week they would need a factory, not a shop and they’d need lots of staff, not Noel and some of the kids.

MerryChristmasYaFilthyBrusselSprout · 17/12/2024 19:44

I remember seeing the episode when 2 of the little kids went missing at a theme park I think it was. And the mother was going mad at the other children asking who was watching them. No you stupid woman it is yours and your husbands responsibility to watch your children. Don’t blame the other children for doing your job!!

Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 17/12/2024 19:46

I cant bear the way they (and so many others) use their children as collateral for their "content". Totally ignoring their kids privacy etc. Its grim and its abusive. There should be way more restrictions in place to protect kids whose parents do this.

FoxtonFoxton · 17/12/2024 19:46

Personally, I don't like children being featured on TV/YouTube. They can't give informed consent, and it makes me incredibly uncomfortable when their personal/medical issues are shown for all to see and have an opinion on. While they may not have an issue with it at primary age, will they feel the same way at teen plus? Like many family vloggers, their channel wouldn't exist without the children, which makes the kids the family financial support. It's exploitative. That for me is the FAR bigger issue than taxes etc.

Oioisavaloy27 · 17/12/2024 19:47

Years ago lots of people that large families it was the norm as there was no birth control. I kind of think in one way I take my hat off to them having that many children and being able to cope with them all but in another way I do feel sorry for the kids because they can't get that much one on one attention and it's not fair using kids to look after other kids. It is great the way they take them away all the time a lot of people seem to get really jealous of that if they can afford it why not?

I do sometimes have a laugh about it though thinking that in a few years Morecambe will be renamed Radistan because by the time the kids have their kids and grandkids almost every household will be a Radford

Stepfordian · 17/12/2024 19:49

JulianAssangesCat · 17/12/2024 18:20

I thought they supported themselves without benefits (other than child benefit)? The dad runs a bakery.

Unless he’s Mr Kipling I doubt he can support that many children from his little bakery!

Startinganew32 · 17/12/2024 19:51

Read the trust pilot reviews for their pie company…
Also according to their accounts, the pie company is of a very low value so I highly doubt it’s making them a fortune.

SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 17/12/2024 19:52

Stepfordian · 17/12/2024 19:49

Unless he’s Mr Kipling I doubt he can support that many children from his little bakery!

How fucking dare you. He's Mr Radford, with his delectable pies.

CountingDownToSummer · 17/12/2024 19:52

*@namechangeGOT
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Is 'content creator' the new official term for selling your kids privacy online and breeding for fame?

Yes I would say so.
I can see thousands of lawsuits in coming years where the children realise what has been done to them without their permission.
Their medical and personal information plastered all over for anyone to see. It's bloody awful

Oioisavaloy27 · 17/12/2024 19:53

Stepfordian · 17/12/2024 19:49

Unless he’s Mr Kipling I doubt he can support that many children from his little bakery!

I'm sure it was 4000 pies they sold a week so if it's £4.50 that's £18.500 a week so how can you say that?

healthybychristmas · 17/12/2024 19:54

Not according to company records it's not.

Lifeomars · 17/12/2024 19:55

Startinganew32 · 17/12/2024 19:26

Yeah, this was the 90s. No, it was not normal for 17 year olds to have sex with 13 year olds. At all. Not for 14 year olds to give birth. And she was 14 years and 2 months when she gave birth so for the majority of the pregnancy she was thirteen years old. Absolutely shocking and disgusting.

That is hideous on so many levels, the thought of a child having sex, then being pregnant and going through childbirth is just horrible, I know that of course it can happen physically but what on earth does it do psychologically? When I was at school one of my classmates had a baby at 15 which was adopted and she came back to school. The baby was adopted and of course all of us teenage girls had no idea how traumatised she was not just by giving up her baby but by the whole experience. She used to lie down on the floor of our common room and reenact the birth. Gave me a phobia about childbirth but what it did to her I dread to think, poor girl