To think all NICU nurses should wear body cams to keep babies safe?

[ElsaGreen]

After the awful tragedy of the Lucy Letby case, we need to do more to protect the most vulnerable children, children who cannot even speak for themselves.

Letby is not the first nurse to murder patients, there was also the case of Beverly Allitt. The doctor Harold Shipman also murdered patients... I know these healthcare professionals are in the minority...but how can vulnerable patients be kept safe without additional monitoring?

If we made all healthcare professionals wear body cameras would this help to prevent future murders?

This is the most poorly thought out post I've ever seen on MN

First response nails it

I don’t think you’re onto something

I'd be so relaxed with an hcp filming me whilst he's doing a gynae exam. Or, actually, any medical procedure or consultation. Not!

You either trust people or you don't.

I'd love the Gyn fitting my coil to wear a body cam. Ooh, footage of my colonoscopy. The GP checking for a breast lump could watch the footage on repeat.

No because confidentiality exists for a reason. I have been a Nurse for nearly 30 years if I wanted to kill a patient a body camera wouldn't stop me, what a ridiculous suggestion.

I should probably add the disclaimer that I don't really believe the above, it would be ridiculous wouldn't it? A small number of sociopathic individuals should not be allowed to tarnish the reputation of an entire profession.

Why then, is it considered reasonable to apply these kinds of sweeping generalisations to home educating parents?

@ElsaGreen After the awful tragedy of the Lucy Letby case, we need to do more to protect the most vulnerable children, children who cannot even speak for themselves.

I hope you also feel this way about abortion

What a bizarre turn op.

Well I think this takes the prize as the most batshit post on Mumsnet for 2024… both the original post and the update!!

Basically everyone should wear a bodycam at all times or have a chip implanted so they can be monitored 24hrs a day, that would stop any crime ever being committed. Unless of course the monitors need monitoring, where does it all end.

A small number of sociopathic individuals should not be allowed to tarnish the reputation of an entire profession.

They haven’t tarnished the reputation of an entire profession. Just what on Earth are you talking about?

Who would check the footage?
How long would it be held for?
How would they protect a patients dignity and privacy?
How many amazing medical professionals would be put off the profession under such constant scrutiny?

Well, if anyone's home educated children need more external oversight, it's yours!

New are you?

Lol ok then. Fierce backtracking when you realised it wasn't going the way you wanted it to, more like.

Yes my OP reads as batshit...but nobody is using that word about all the threads suggesting that home educated children need more protection from their own loving parents.

What's the difference?

That was my reaction too. This poster must be very sheltered.

No, I just wanted to make a point (I know it's crude to do it this way). I didn't actually want to insult nurses.

If you search my history you will see that I am indeed a home educating parent.

Hilarious backpedal there OP.

Where does it all end? See George Orwell, 1984.

I think you might need to pop these on your home curriculum for English Language: hyperbole and false equivalence.

Op, pray tell me where it's been agreed that home educated children will be subject to constant CCTV surveillance?

As from what I've read, the suggestion is the local authority know which children are being homeschooled, visit to check they're ok, and that parents can't homeschool if the parents are judged to be abusive or neglectful. Can't quite see the parallels myself.

I think bananas should spontaneously combust.

I mean, obviously I don't think that. But you can see how it directly correlates to people who choose to home educate their kid.

Also for what it's worth, I'm working with two families with children severely emotionally damaged by 'loving home educated parents'

One family = conspiracy theorists
One falsely claimed to flee domestic abuse, cut the children off from everyone, and the children were sexually abused

None of those children received any kind of education in their 'home schooling', it was purely to keep the children isolated. It would have only required very basic checks to make sure that the home schooling was genuine. The conspiracy theory family didn't have a single internet enabled device or book or pen in the home when the police got in...