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ChristmasPudd1990 · 2024-12-17T09:00:45+00:00

Does this scream "Photoshop" to anyone else? Lilibet's shoes, Meghan's leg and outrageously long arm,L is dressed for summer,A dressed for winter,the 3 year old looks more like 6. Jeeez...how embarrassing...🤦♀️

Manypaws · 17/12/2024 22:35

MerryMaker · 17/12/2024 22:34

I have reported the comment.
Courts say she was sex trafficked, And that she was raped and sexually abused.
Blaming a girl for her own abuse is terrible. I can not get over how awful that comment is.
Luckily the public generally agree with the courts and see her as a victim. A victim who donated most of the compensation she received to relevant charities.
Rich men have always claimed that girls and boys say he raped them to get money. Gary Glitter claimed this as have others convicted of rape and sexual abuse.

Well said

Extiainoiapeial · 17/12/2024 22:36

NAPAC knows from what we hear consistently on the support line just how damaging attempts to undermine and discredit their experiences are to survivors

^ A statement from the charity NAPAC in relation to Prince Andrew after his legal team minimised all those girls went through

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 17/12/2024 22:54

TheLimeHedgehog · 17/12/2024 17:26

I guess the late queen was right "recollections may vary", so according to Cringe and Whinge you can never lie 😂

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Even the late Queen said they were liars!

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 17/12/2024 23:01

thepariscrimefiles · 17/12/2024 19:18

Well Meghan is beautiful and I presume that both her children are gorgeous. Much better looking than anyone else in the Royal Family.

I find the things that Andrew does much more hideous. Hobnobbing with a convicted sex offender, paying off a victim of sex trafficking and hiring an alleged Chinese spy as his chief representative in China, and inviting him a few times to Buckingham Palace, St James’s Palace and his house. He's a fat ugly fucker as well.

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OMG how can you say that about children you haven't even seen? How do you know they are "gorgeous"??

I think the Wales children are pretty good looking, but then I have been able to see their faces!

Andrew wasn't always "a fat ugly fucker" (charming description!!) - he was actually an attractive man in his youth!

Lighteningstrikes · 17/12/2024 23:03

Yes, awful

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 17/12/2024 23:04

UniqueOP · 17/12/2024 19:37

There's no proof that Virginia slept with Andrew, and I don't think he did. She tried to say that Alan Dershowitz slept with her too, but when she realised that he wouldn't back down but would defend himself, she said "Oh, I must have been mistaken." Mistaken?! The RF had to pay Virginia off because the alternative would have been a messy trial where everything private about Andrew, including information about his genitalia, was put into the public domain. It was sheer extortion on her part, and it worked with the RF but not on Dershowitz. She accused Dershowitz and then withdrew. Well, he either raped you or he didn't. I also don't think she was trafficked; she was not kept prisoner and went home to her dad every night. She could have left any time, and others who she tried to recruit and rejected Epstein's advances were told to leave, they weren't forced. She was a willing and well-paid sex worker.

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^ Well said but it won't be popular!

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 17/12/2024 23:07

Livingtothefull · 17/12/2024 19:18

I don't have a lot of sympathy for him I'm afraid. Unlike us he occupies a hugely privileged role, and the reality is that his private life is going to be of interest to the public. Particularly after his lavish very public (and publicly funded) wedding to Diana.

I don't buy that he was forced to marry Diana instead of the so called 'love of his life' (though Camilla was just one of many married lovers). He was 32 at the time of his engagement, Diana was 19. And I am a bit tired of Diana's supposed failings being rehashed, the woman has been dead nearly 30 years and doesnt have to impress us any more whereas C&C do.

It is true that the Church preaches forgiveness, but that is supposed to follow repentance. And I don't see a lot of repentance or humility in the way the most unpopular Camilla is shoved in our faces after a lengthy and expensive (to the taxpayer) PR campaign.

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How do you know?

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 17/12/2024 23:11

Livingtothefull · 17/12/2024 19:27

When a particular couple are targeted for criticism over and over again and on a huge scale - despite the fact that there are far more appropriate objects for criticism and despite the fact that this couple's relentless targeting distracts from legitimate criticism of others - it takes on the character of hate.

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No. It doesn't. Only in your own narrow frame of comprehension.

I don't "hate" anyone in life - it takes too much energy. But I do despise the way these two have behaved.

And yes, there are plenty "more appropriate objects for criticism" but that does not mean that the two of them are excluded!!

TofuTart · 17/12/2024 23:15

toucheee · 17/12/2024 13:58

It's better to call out nastiness rather than ignore it.

Is this how you would act in the street if you see someone be nasty, just walk away?

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Agree, I can't stand bullies, never have been able to.
Whether in RL or online. Call the shits out every single time.

ThatKhakiMoose · 18/12/2024 01:22

MerryMaker · 17/12/2024 22:16

@UniqueOP you are wrong. Trafficking has never only covered cases where people are physically dragged somewhere and locked up.
The girl was sex trafficked i.e. flown to an island for a party and coerced into having sex with men.
You are minimising what happened. I wonder if you also minimise what happened to the girls in Rotherham since they were not physically dragged into flats and locked up?

Honestly your comment is disgusting. A disgrace to minimise the rape and sexual abuse of girls.

I say this very gently, but I also don't 100 percent understand why Ms Guiffre didn't just stay away from the mansion in Florida when it became clear what they wanted her for.

But then, I don't know what it's like to be in the sights of people like Maxwell and Epstein.

MerryMaker · 18/12/2024 02:01

@ThatKhakiMoose do you understand why the girls in Rotherham kept going back to their abusers?
It sounds like you have little understanding of trafficking or the sexual abuse and rape of girls. Please do some reading up on it.

MerryMaker · 18/12/2024 02:06

@ThatKhakiMoose I say this very gently, but if you have children please do some safeguarding training or at least reading to understand the grooming process. You need to understand this to protect your children.

ThatKhakiMoose · 18/12/2024 02:13

MerryMaker · 18/12/2024 02:06

@ThatKhakiMoose I say this very gently, but if you have children please do some safeguarding training or at least reading to understand the grooming process. You need to understand this to protect your children.

I don't have children. Also, I don't really know any details about the Rotherham case, except that it was really bad and involved countless victims.

So why don't victims who aren't locked up stay away? Do they get brainwashed? It seems that there might be parallels to abusive relationships. People post on here about their spouses being awful to them and everyone says "Just leave" but anyone who's been abused knows it's not that simple, because there are really lovely times too. Maybe these traffickers who don't actually lock people up go for similar tactics.

toucheee · 18/12/2024 05:33

UniqueOP · 17/12/2024 19:37

There's no proof that Virginia slept with Andrew, and I don't think he did. She tried to say that Alan Dershowitz slept with her too, but when she realised that he wouldn't back down but would defend himself, she said "Oh, I must have been mistaken." Mistaken?! The RF had to pay Virginia off because the alternative would have been a messy trial where everything private about Andrew, including information about his genitalia, was put into the public domain. It was sheer extortion on her part, and it worked with the RF but not on Dershowitz. She accused Dershowitz and then withdrew. Well, he either raped you or he didn't. I also don't think she was trafficked; she was not kept prisoner and went home to her dad every night. She could have left any time, and others who she tried to recruit and rejected Epstein's advances were told to leave, they weren't forced. She was a willing and well-paid sex worker.

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You really do live in cloud cuckoo land. There’s no way the Queen would have paid Virginia £12m if Andrew hadn’t taken advantage of a 17yo girl and had sex with her.

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ChristmasPudd1990 · 18/12/2024 05:45

MinSpy · 17/12/2024 22:07

Sorry I haven't read the full thread because it's v long! But I have seen the photo.

Who is the girl with the long black hair hugging Meghan? We just see her back and hair. She looks about 8 maybe? Anyone know who she is?

Ooh no don't say the girl looks older!! You'll be accused of bullying 😱🤦‍♀️🙄

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Ffs how nasty can you be these are two small children is it not enough fir you to call the parents ugly but now you have to imply the kids. Will be ???
Utterly vile .

YankTank · 18/12/2024 06:39

x2boys · 18/12/2024 06:31

Ffs how nasty can you be these are two small children is it not enough fir you to call the parents ugly but now you have to imply the kids. Will be ???
Utterly vile .

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I was thinking the same thing. I guess we all can’t be perfectly gorgeous human specimens like @theblackandwhite .

theblackandwhite · 18/12/2024 06:39

I give you the full comment I was responding to.

Well Meghan is beautiful and I presume that both her children are gorgeous. Much better looking than anyone else in the Royal Family

x2boys · 18/12/2024 06:44

theblackandwhite · 18/12/2024 06:39

I give you the full comment I was responding to.

Well Meghan is beautiful and I presume that both her children are gorgeous. Much better looking than anyone else in the Royal Family

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You said the chances of their kids winning any genetic lottery Is slim that's just plain nasty
How would you like people to mply your two very small children will ugly????

thepariscrimefiles · 18/12/2024 07:36

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 17/12/2024 23:01

OMG how can you say that about children you haven't even seen? How do you know they are "gorgeous"??

I think the Wales children are pretty good looking, but then I have been able to see their faces!

Andrew wasn't always "a fat ugly fucker" (charming description!!) - he was actually an attractive man in his youth!

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I said that I presume they are nice looking. In relation to the Wales' children, Charlotte is quite pretty but the boys aren't as nice looking as William and Harry were as children.

The Harry and Meghan haters constantly criticise Meghan's appearance when she is obviously very pretty. It's true that Andrew was probably the best looking of the Queen's four children when he was young, but it's almost poetic justice that his appearance has deteriorated in tandem with his behaviour and reflects all his vices, e.g. arrogance, greed, gluttony and predatory sexual behaviour.

thepariscrimefiles · 18/12/2024 08:08

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 17/12/2024 23:04

^ Well said but it won't be popular!

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Well said?? Who would pay £12 million, with all the negative publicity that it generated, unless what would be revealed was even worse than that? He was friends with a convicted international sex trafficker for god's sake.

The Harry and Meghan haters are obsessed but the Andrew defenders take delusion to another level. I never thought I would feel sorry for Charles, but he is in a Catch 22 situation with the latest scandal of the Chinese spy and the further embarassment Andrew has caused the Royal Family. Charles either has to provide Andrew with sufficient funds to stop his grubby deals and relationships with foreign spies and dictators or cuts him loose to fend for himself financially, which will obviously bring more scandal to the Royal Family's door.

As Marina Hyde said in the Guardian:

'But speaking of signs, if only there’d been some before this week that could have indicated to the royal family that Andrew was permanently unsuited to activities involving either judgment or money.'

FeliciWhat · 18/12/2024 08:14

x2boys · 18/12/2024 06:44

You said the chances of their kids winning any genetic lottery Is slim that's just plain nasty
How would you like people to mply your two very small children will ugly????

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What's wrong with being ugly???
or plain??

Stop with the pretty privilege please.

The truth is the majority of people including kids don't look beautiful, that's why beauty is so coveted. Most people and kids look plain. Only perhaps 5% of the population are conventionally attractive.

I like plain, its' normal and human..

I do not like obsessively and artificially altered looks, it's neurotic.

People should accept their plain selves and embrace others' plain looks.

x2boys · 18/12/2024 08:34

FeliciWhat · 18/12/2024 08:14

What's wrong with being ugly???
or plain??

Stop with the pretty privilege please.

The truth is the majority of people including kids don't look beautiful, that's why beauty is so coveted. Most people and kids look plain. Only perhaps 5% of the population are conventionally attractive.

I like plain, its' normal and human..

I do not like obsessively and artificially altered looks, it's neurotic.

People should accept their plain selves and embrace others' plain looks.

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Nobody wants their children to be called ugly or plain paticularly not strangers and even if you do think a child is ugly or plain you keep it to yourself because that's whst decent human beings do
It's one thing to have an opnion on an adults looks but to imply a very small child is going to be ugly is a vile thing to do if you can't see that ,then that says more about you.

thepariscrimefiles · 18/12/2024 08:51

ChristmasPudd1990 · 18/12/2024 05:45

Ooh no don't say the girl looks older!! You'll be accused of bullying 😱🤦‍♀️🙄

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I don't understand your comment. Why would anyone be accused of bullying for saying that this girl looks about 8 years old.