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sitting in costa coffee

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IveGotToGoToMeDads · 14/12/2024 15:26

Went to costa coffee ordered drinks, sandwiches & cake. Myself & partner said we will eat in rather than take away. Place was full most seats were taken apart from a four seater table where some woman was sat. I asked if the seats on her table were taken and she said we can not sit on her table as she is with her DS.
In the end a chinese couple offered their seats and we eventually got a seat.
AIBU expecting a seat on womans table for me and my partner as no one was sat in them?

OP posts:
XenoBitch · 19/12/2024 12:34

ButterCrackers · 19/12/2024 10:33

Exactly or to go out with a carer who is trained to help the person manage and to remove them when it gets too much.

I don't need a trained carer, and it offensive to suggest I do.
People should not be cheeky fuckers in the first place and still sit down with someone when they have already been told no.

Gogogo12345 · 19/12/2024 12:42

XenoBitch · 19/12/2024 12:32

I already mitigate it by politely saying that they can't sit with me.

Presume you never use public transport then as you wouldn't be able to do that on a bus train or plane.

ChristmasfoodisOverrated · 19/12/2024 12:44

Gogogo12345 · 19/12/2024 12:42

Presume you never use public transport then as you wouldn't be able to do that on a bus train or plane.

But you can in a chain cafe, so that can
be easily avoided. Being only 2 seats on a bus, chances are pp has somebody next to her, and planes you choose your seat, and usually with relatives/friends.

ChristmasfoodisOverrated · 19/12/2024 12:48

ButterCrackers · 19/12/2024 12:13

In the case of mental health issues, that have been greatly stated on this thread, then yes a trained carer could help. The mental health illness would be assessed medically to get this help. I have no problem with someone sitting on an empty seat at my table or bar but it seems that many people have serious health issues that prevent this behaviour. Mental health is the same as physical health and needs the right care.

Surely you're not saying if somebody says a CF can't squeeze on to their undersized table, than they need mental help, and a trained carer? Just spat out my tea 😂

TwistedWonder · 19/12/2024 12:51

ChristmasfoodisOverrated · 19/12/2024 12:48

Surely you're not saying if somebody says a CF can't squeeze on to their undersized table, than they need mental help, and a trained carer? Just spat out my tea 😂

Edited

Ridiculous isn’t it. And the thought that there’s untold trained carers out there so that anyone with social anxiety in any form (ott just values thrive space and privacy) can find one to take them to Costa just in case someone doesn’t take no for an answer - MN is the gift that keeps giving 🤣

XenoBitch · 19/12/2024 12:52

Gogogo12345 · 19/12/2024 12:42

Presume you never use public transport then as you wouldn't be able to do that on a bus train or plane.

I can go on trains in quiet times with my DP. I can not use buses at all.

Cafes are different, as I am sat there for some me time, and as I said upthread, I have issues with eating meaning that if someone sits with me, I wont feel able to consume what I bought. It took me over a year to eat infront my DP.

ButterCrackers · 19/12/2024 12:54

ChristmasfoodisOverrated · 19/12/2024 12:48

Surely you're not saying if somebody says a CF can't squeeze on to their undersized table, than they need mental help, and a trained carer? Just spat out my tea 😂

Edited

Of course not.

ButterCrackers · 19/12/2024 12:54

TwistedWonder · 19/12/2024 12:51

Ridiculous isn’t it. And the thought that there’s untold trained carers out there so that anyone with social anxiety in any form (ott just values thrive space and privacy) can find one to take them to Costa just in case someone doesn’t take no for an answer - MN is the gift that keeps giving 🤣

Diagnosed mental health issues - read my posts.

XenoBitch · 19/12/2024 12:55

ChristmasfoodisOverrated · 19/12/2024 12:48

Surely you're not saying if somebody says a CF can't squeeze on to their undersized table, than they need mental help, and a trained carer? Just spat out my tea 😂

Edited

That is how I read it too. If you can't deal with someone being rude and not taking no for an answer, then you need a trained carer and MH help. It is a joke.

How about people have a carer with them to make sure they don't go round being rude and trying to sit with strangers that have already politely said no.

ButterCrackers · 19/12/2024 12:56

XenoBitch · 19/12/2024 12:34

I don't need a trained carer, and it offensive to suggest I do.
People should not be cheeky fuckers in the first place and still sit down with someone when they have already been told no.

I’ve not mentioned you as needing a carer. You sound like you have serious mental health issues. I hope, if this is the case, that you have medical care.

ButterCrackers · 19/12/2024 12:58

XenoBitch · 19/12/2024 12:55

That is how I read it too. If you can't deal with someone being rude and not taking no for an answer, then you need a trained carer and MH help. It is a joke.

How about people have a carer with them to make sure they don't go round being rude and trying to sit with strangers that have already politely said no.

Where did you read that?

XenoBitch · 19/12/2024 13:01

ButterCrackers · 19/12/2024 12:56

I’ve not mentioned you as needing a carer. You sound like you have serious mental health issues. I hope, if this is the case, that you have medical care.

I see a support worker from a charity once a fortnight.
There is hardly any MH help in the UK. MH staff are leaving the NHS in droves. My local CMHT wont take me on just because I don't want someone sitting with me in a cafe, and it would be an utter piss take to bring that up when a lot of people that have no ND/MH issues at all also would not want a stranger sat with them.

imnotwhoyouthinkiam · 19/12/2024 13:04

Who's going to fund this carer for my severely anxious adult child so he can go for a coffee? Baring in mind it will take weeks for him to trust them enough to go for a coffee.

Surely it's much easier that I take him and politely say no on the rare occasion someone asks to share our table.

MarkingBad · 19/12/2024 13:46

Can we stop blaming neuro diversity and MH for not wanting to share a table please. There are plenty of varieties of MH issues and ND issues that do not affect people in a way that means they can't share a table.

I'm ND and I know others who are and or also live with MH issues who share tables.

Some do and some don't those choices and factors are personal to those people.

Saying we are always having to treat people who live with these issues with kid gloves infantalizes all of us and it is an incorrect assumption. No wonder quite a few people hate it when anyone mentions ND or MH and roll their eyes when every excuse is blamed on MH and ND, we're just people and we don't fit neatly into pigeonholes just like my folk don't

MarkingBad · 19/12/2024 13:57

MarkingBad · 19/12/2024 13:46

Can we stop blaming neuro diversity and MH for not wanting to share a table please. There are plenty of varieties of MH issues and ND issues that do not affect people in a way that means they can't share a table.

I'm ND and I know others who are and or also live with MH issues who share tables.

Some do and some don't those choices and factors are personal to those people.

Saying we are always having to treat people who live with these issues with kid gloves infantalizes all of us and it is an incorrect assumption. No wonder quite a few people hate it when anyone mentions ND or MH and roll their eyes when every excuse is blamed on MH and ND, we're just people and we don't fit neatly into pigeonholes just like my folk don't

Sorry not my folk I meant NT folk

losingweightandgainingconfidence · 19/12/2024 13:58

If I'm out for a coffee and there's only a 4 seater table available, I'll sit there.

XenoBitch · 19/12/2024 13:59

MarkingBad · 19/12/2024 13:46

Can we stop blaming neuro diversity and MH for not wanting to share a table please. There are plenty of varieties of MH issues and ND issues that do not affect people in a way that means they can't share a table.

I'm ND and I know others who are and or also live with MH issues who share tables.

Some do and some don't those choices and factors are personal to those people.

Saying we are always having to treat people who live with these issues with kid gloves infantalizes all of us and it is an incorrect assumption. No wonder quite a few people hate it when anyone mentions ND or MH and roll their eyes when every excuse is blamed on MH and ND, we're just people and we don't fit neatly into pigeonholes just like my folk don't

The people on this thread (myself included) are saying that their MH/ND makes it difficult for them to share tables is because, for them, it does.

No one saying that have to be treated with kid gloves either.... just that if someone says no when you ask to sit with them, then don't be a cheeky fucker and sit there anyway.

losingweightandgainingconfidence · 19/12/2024 14:00

losingweightandgainingconfidence · 19/12/2024 13:58

If I'm out for a coffee and there's only a 4 seater table available, I'll sit there.

Pressed post too early.

I'll sit there. I won't give up the table, but I will leave as soon as possible.

imnotwhoyouthinkiam · 19/12/2024 14:03

MarkingBad · 19/12/2024 13:46

Can we stop blaming neuro diversity and MH for not wanting to share a table please. There are plenty of varieties of MH issues and ND issues that do not affect people in a way that means they can't share a table.

I'm ND and I know others who are and or also live with MH issues who share tables.

Some do and some don't those choices and factors are personal to those people.

Saying we are always having to treat people who live with these issues with kid gloves infantalizes all of us and it is an incorrect assumption. No wonder quite a few people hate it when anyone mentions ND or MH and roll their eyes when every excuse is blamed on MH and ND, we're just people and we don't fit neatly into pigeonholes just like my folk don't

I'm not blaming ND/MH. They are the reason DS can't currently cope with sharing a table with strangers. That's only him I'm speaking for.

As a small child he would have loved it, and no amount of telling him that the other people didn't want to listen to him telling them about his latest obsession would stop him trying (usually successfully) to engage them in conversation.

MarkingBad · 19/12/2024 14:03

XenoBitch · 19/12/2024 13:59

The people on this thread (myself included) are saying that their MH/ND makes it difficult for them to share tables is because, for them, it does.

No one saying that have to be treated with kid gloves either.... just that if someone says no when you ask to sit with them, then don't be a cheeky fucker and sit there anyway.

Yes that is what I said that it is individual issues with individual people. It wasn't a comment to you but the very many PP who have suggested it is an ND MH thing

The irony of your last paragraph I shall leave hanging there

MarkingBad · 19/12/2024 14:06

imnotwhoyouthinkiam · 19/12/2024 14:03

I'm not blaming ND/MH. They are the reason DS can't currently cope with sharing a table with strangers. That's only him I'm speaking for.

As a small child he would have loved it, and no amount of telling him that the other people didn't want to listen to him telling them about his latest obsession would stop him trying (usually successfully) to engage them in conversation.

Ref my previous post to this one

It was not a personal comment to you

Nanny0gg · 19/12/2024 14:30

biscuitsandbooks · 14/12/2024 16:20

You can ask all you want, but the other people aren't obliged to say yes.

And if they choose to sit down anyway I doubt the proprietor would do anything

I was out with a friend on Monday and the place was heaving. The only free table was for four so we sat down there
And lo...someone asked if they could sit next to us

Would have been very unreasonable to say No

Nanny0gg · 19/12/2024 14:33

And if you do say no when you've taken up a larger table than you need, you're costing the business money

Very unreasonable

XenoBitch · 19/12/2024 14:34

Nanny0gg · 19/12/2024 14:33

And if you do say no when you've taken up a larger table than you need, you're costing the business money

Very unreasonable

If I am sat on my own, then my table is only 50% occupied. It is quite a stretch to say I am costing the cafe money by sitting alone.

Nanny0gg · 19/12/2024 14:36

XenoBitch · 19/12/2024 14:34

If I am sat on my own, then my table is only 50% occupied. It is quite a stretch to say I am costing the cafe money by sitting alone.

I can understand not wanting a stranger opposite, but if there is a whole table's worth of space next to you it is indeed costing money