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For not wanting to share my lottery winnings with my sister after she let me move in with her?

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SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

OP posts:
asthecrowdwaschantingmore · 13/12/2024 16:33

SockFluffInTheBath · 13/12/2024 16:28

Buy the flat OP. Tell her she can live in your van in your flat’s parking space for £400pcm as long as she cleans your flat.

100%

Richiewoo · 13/12/2024 16:33

Please do not give her any money. She yook advantage of you offering you a damp garage. Secure your future and buy your property . You've offered her some money and she snubbed you.

PoppyRoseBucky · 13/12/2024 16:35

I think you first need to rid yourself of the notion that you are somehow indebted to her. She didn't help you. She "allowed" you to live in your van in her garage for a whopping, extortionate sum of £375 per month, plus expecting you to provide free childcare, pet care, lifts, and other chores.

She made sure she and her oh so preciously boring DH benefitted handsomely from that arrangement, didn't she? It wasn't done out of the goodness of her heart or because she gave a damn.

Look at it like this-she was essentially your landlord that scalped you for money and chores. That was it. If you'd moved into a caravan on a plot of land and paid a sum of money to a landlord that was not family and completed chores for them in return to being allowed to stay there-would you feel obligated or guilty for not giving them money that you'd won after you moved out?

Of course you wouldn't! Your sister and her DH were your landlords and you were probably hindered, rather than helped. Ask yourself this-if you had been unable to pay the £375 and provide the chores-would she have still "helped" you?

She allowed you to remain in your abusive relationship for a further 3 months until you could financially benefit her. That is absolutely abhorrent. I know that this is difficult because she's your sister-but think about that. She would sooner see you in an abusive relationship, in physical danger, than help you if you couldn't be a financial benefit to her.

You do not owe her anything. You paid your rent and provided the chores as agreed. And since she was quite happy to allow you to remain in your relationship, she can stay in hers until she can scrape enough together to get out, can't she?

If you give her a penny of this, she'll demand more. You'll lose your flat. When are you going to get enough money again to be able to afford to buy your own place? It is absolutely ok and good to prioritise yourself. Your sister knows all about that.

Take a leaf out of her book and put yourself first. As for your families comments, what are they doing to help? It's very easy to call someone else selfish and decide how to spend other people's money when they're not putting their hands in their own pockets, isn't it?

Also-don't think of this as lottery winnings. That may make you feel like it's not yours. Like it's something that's up for grabs. It's not. It's your money. You played the lottery and you won. Yes, that is lucky but it is still your money and you should benefit from it and enjoy it. I feel like you need to have a sense of ownership over this money to prevent you from being guilted into giving it away.

You are going to take a lot of flak for saying no-and the consequence may be that she doesn't speak to you again, but that is a choice that is for her to make. That shouldn't sway you to give her a penny.

The fact that she's willing to take this money, knowing how much it will set you back shows how entitled and selfish she is. She doesn't give a fuck about you and that is further evidence of it.

Loloj · 13/12/2024 16:38

What on earth?! This can not be a real story? If it is then sorry OP but your sister has hugely taken advantage of you. £375 a month for living in her garage is disgusting - and the fact that she wouldn’t let you “move in” for 3 months until you could afford it is worse! She has not helped you out at all. I would make it clear to your other relatives what her “help” actually was - bet they don’t know the full details.

Do not offer her a penny. Get your flat and keep enough back for renovations.

Donttellempike · 13/12/2024 16:40

SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

I wouldn’t give her a penny. She didn’t help you, she took advantage of you. And it’s nothing to do with anyone else. Enjoy your up turn in luck x

RubyRedBow · 13/12/2024 16:40

Never discuss money with anyone.

lionloaf · 13/12/2024 16:40

Buy the flat, and let her sleep in your van outside it. Oh and charge her £375 a month for the privilege.

40YearOldDad · 13/12/2024 16:41

What's the first rule of a lottery club? You don't tell people you've won!

It reminds me a lot of when an old relative dies, and all of a sudden, you start hearing from people who have not visited for the past 10 years, picked up a phone, etc.

You paid a fair rate to live in your own accommodation. remind her of those extra 3 months it took so you'd be able to pay that rent, and while you're thankful for her 'help' the deal is already done on your new flat.

BobbyBiscuits · 13/12/2024 16:43

'can I have half your winnings?'
'erm. No.' 🤣🤣🤣

I bet you wish you'd kept it quiet now. You don't owe her anything just because she says so. Would you owe her half your wages? Of course not. If she wasn't such a grabber maybe you'd consider gifting her something but clearly she's not deserving if it.

Betsybee88 · 13/12/2024 16:43

Your father and cousins can club together and raise her a deposite seen as they are so passionate for her to get out.
Don't lose out on your own chance of happiness for hers.

lionloaf · 13/12/2024 16:45

Also she has plenty of time to save up herself. She isn’t fleeing from abuse, her husband is just a boring bastard.

Ladybugger · 13/12/2024 16:45

Oh I just pressed YABU in error and now can't undo it! My guess is all of the YABUs are people like me with fat fingers!
You are definitely NOT being unreasonable!

Margorett · 13/12/2024 16:46

You're sister used you and didn't really help you out at all. DO NOT GIVE HER A PENNY. She is selfish and uncaring.

Cherrysoup · 13/12/2024 16:48

Either way, I’d say your relationship with her is dead in the water. Do your family know how she treated you? That she took nearly £400 off you every month and you got pneumonia?! Think I’d be reminding them. Don’t wreck your future chances because her Dh is ‘boring’. That would be stupid.

JazzyBazzy79 · 13/12/2024 16:49

Your sister sounds like a horrendous person :( focus on your life. X

NautilusLionfish · 13/12/2024 16:50

SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

I am often all for helping family. I do wonder how much her husband influenced how she treated you. In any case, offer her the same deal as she offered you. She can find a caravan and stay on the plot, rent you have to account for inflation since, and she can help around for free. Remind her its the same fair deal she offered you and as with her deal, its non negotiable. One good turn deserves another

Anuta77 · 13/12/2024 16:51

So your sister involved your father and cousins to make you look bad. That's manipulation. Threathening that you won't see your nephews is manipulation. I don't even mention giving you a list of chores on top of charging you rent when you were vulnerable. It's not a relationship I would want to keep. I have a toxic sister and presently, she's not invited to my house, sister or not, I don't take sh*t from anyone.
You deserve your winnings, it's an amazing opportunity to bring you back on track and move forward!
And I might understand your father getting mixed up a bit, no parent likes when their kids are in a fight, but the cousins can shove it. If their opinion matter tell them your side of the story and don't be afraid. Anyway, a boring husband is not the end of the world. She can manage with all the money she got from renting the garage to you and from saving on nannies and petsitters.

PositivePorpoisePeople · 13/12/2024 16:51

Offer to lend her the van and she can move into her own garage.

YANBU. She made money from your predicament and got free home help to boot.

I think offering her the refurb money is extremely generous and that should only be only be a loan.

Lavenderfarmcottage · 13/12/2024 16:52

You were being abused and she made you stay there for an extra 3 months before you could move in. This is traumatic.

Lavenderfarmcottage · 13/12/2024 16:53

Ps: enjoy your new home and refurbishing it :)

Rosscameasdoody · 13/12/2024 16:53

Offer her the same as she offered you, on the same terms. Don’t give her a penny. You need to look after you. She’s taken advantage of you when you were at your lowest ebb. She’s awful and you owe her nothing.

Hocuspoc · 13/12/2024 16:54

SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

I have just one question. Why would you tell anyone that you won money on lottery? Honest question.
Nothing good had ever come out of that.
If you didn't tell her and she asked for help anyway you could gave still given her the money you offered (the refurbishment amount you saved) and she would have been grateful.

BonneMaman77 · 13/12/2024 16:57

YANBU
If it were me, I would not give her any money at all. The way she treated you by forcing a delay of any time but 3months of leaving an abusive relationship is unforgivable. She sounds disgusting. And certainly not deserving of any more gifts from you. Remember you paid her to stay there over the odds and so she didn’t do you any favours.

Blogswife · 13/12/2024 16:57

Tell her that you’re happy to put her up in your garage for £375 a month in exchange for housework and gardening but you won’t be giving her half of what is essentially your house deposit

OAPapparently · 13/12/2024 17:00

She sounds like she enjoys spending your cash! It doesn’t read like your stay with her actually gave you much apart from a damp garage over your head. Where as she was raking in your money even then, having free rides to hospital and free childcare and now she wants to take half of your winnings via a massive guilt trip! She sounds like a piss taker and you shouldn’t feel you owe her anything - the scales tipped in her favour even when she let you stay in her garage.
Concentrate on yourself and your future.

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