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For not wanting to share my lottery winnings with my sister after she let me move in with her?

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SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

OP posts:
mummytrex · 13/12/2024 16:14

Following on from my earlier post, do you really think that if the roles were reversed she would share her winnings with you? Doubt it based on how she has treated you in the past - she wouldn't even give you a roof over your head and begrudgingly allowed you to use her garage and shower in return for unpaid help and rent!

Wittyapple · 13/12/2024 16:15

Please dont give your sister a penny OP

wayfairer · 13/12/2024 16:16

I think you should let your father/cousins know she charged you 375 to live in your own van on her driveway. How could they pressure you to give her money yet be ok with your paying her to live in your own van! Not even the sofa etc and babies don't need a whole room to themselves! Sorry but I don't think she was honest about it all for all you know her partner didn't know anything about the 375? Did you ever mention it to him? I do wonder sometimes who really knows what when people tell 1 person 1 thing and another person something else.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 13/12/2024 16:17

Yanbu.

IF you want to help you could offer to have the kids and her sleep in the house while she pays you market rent (if you have a spare bedroom) and she does your chores for you - which is a kinder offer than she gave you with her garage.
You could also rent out your drive to her for £350 a month and she can sleep in your van there.

Thatcastlethere · 13/12/2024 16:17

She's an entitled bitch.
Absolutely do not sacrifice buying a flat abd your own security for her.
Tell her she can live in your garage and pay you 375 a month and pet sit your cat if she wants to leave her husband.
Good christ she was making money off you when you were living in her garage.. why didn't she save that up to leave if she wanted to!!
Honestly fuck her.
Like I'd say help her out and give her the money you were going to use to do up your flat.. if she hadn't been such a total cheeky entitled cow about it all. But now I don't think you should give her anything... running off and whinging to family.. getting everyone to harass you about it?
No. Fuck her. She doesn't know she's born. She's absolutely on the take. Don't falk for it. She made money off of you when you were at your lowest and now she wants you to sacrifice your long term security for her?! No way.

TheyCantBurnUsAll · 13/12/2024 16:17

She basically treated you like an au pair. Au pairs are paid, fed , given a bedroom and paid no less that £120 a week. She gave you worse accommodations no food and charged you rent!!

Offer her your parking space and lend her your old van for the same rent she charged you

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 13/12/2024 16:18

Noshowlomo · 13/12/2024 14:25

She provided you with a garage, you still had to pay to live there and were given a long list of duties that you had to adhere to. You then got ill because you lived in a van in a garage. I’m sure they didn’t go out of pocket because of you, in fact they benefited financially.

And they benefited practically with a free babysitter!
Usually if you what an au pair you have to pay them pocket money and give them a room and food

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 13/12/2024 16:18

Ps well done op for turning things around and sorting your life out- don't let her ruin this next chapter

Stillhere2024 · 13/12/2024 16:18

I've just bought a euromillions ticket, you've inspired me! But as to what you should do, come on, you must prioritise yourself. When you needed help your sister wasn't there. If I was you I wouldn't share any -good - financial news with her in the future. I bet she won't leave him anyway even if you do give her the money. She sounds manipulative.

wayfairer · 13/12/2024 16:19

I agree with the other posters regarding her probably not leaving him.

kkloo · 13/12/2024 16:20

The right thing to do is to look after yourself and your future OP.
You went through some very difficult circumstances and your family showed you that they cannot be relied upon if you ever found yourself in another difficult situation so you need to secure your future as best you can.

Your sister treated you like a major inconvenience, then took advantage of you and is now making out she did you the favour of the century. Can't believe she wouldn't let you move your van to hers until you had the money for the rent saved.

Your father and cousins are being very generous with your money, how about they pool some money together to give to your sister seeing as they care so much

MuchTheSameThanks · 13/12/2024 16:21

Tell her to piss off. She treated you appallingly and is trying to bully you now. Tell her she can park her car in your garage and do all your cleaning and laundry so long as she pays you £400 a month.

I would say do not give her a penny just now- until you've had a chance to think about what you'd like to do for her. Do not, under any circumstances, give her your refurb fund. She's pressurising you like a horrible bulllying older sister.

Stand up for yourself. Do not be guilt tripped. She treated you very very shabbily, heartlessly and in a demeaning manner when you were vulnerable and needed her help. Remember that.

INeedABrewPlease · 13/12/2024 16:21

Sometimes, posts on Mumsnet leave me astounded. This is one of them. She didn’t help you in your time of need. She profited from you and she’s trying to do it again. This money is your chance for a decent life, there is nothing more secure than having your own place to live. Please don’t give her any money, she really does not deserve it.

ConfusedNoMore · 13/12/2024 16:22

Having been in an abusive relationship, one of the things I got from therapy is understanding why I chose the man I did and put up with the behaviours I did. I would suggest you do the same.

Your security is hard won. No pun intended. You keep that money.

Jellycatspyjamas · 13/12/2024 16:22

Just offer her 2k.

Nope, not a penny. She exploited you at your lowest ebb - I’d find that very hard to forgive. She gave you less support than a woman’s refuge would, she knowingly let you live in an unsafe place for 3 months and now you’ve had a bit of luck wants to exploit you again. I’d honestly tell her to fuck off.

blitzen · 13/12/2024 16:22

YANBU. Don't give her a penny and don't look back. She's not kind and you need to prioritise yourself x

Vaxtable · 13/12/2024 16:23

I would remind your sister that her help came at a large cost to you, ie helping for free and a monthly rent which she refused to not take for the first couple of months so you had to stay in abusive relationship for three extra months. In fact I would be telling the whole family that little fact. She didn’t help you then, you have to suffer more, and she’s notsuffering from abuse just boredom

so she can do what you did and save whilst in a relationship she doesn’t want t9 be in and then leave

Middlemarch123 · 13/12/2024 16:23

I wouldn’t give her the steam off my tea OP. You ignore her and carry on with your plans. She can sort herself out. Your family are on her side, so let them step up and help her.

Thatcastlethere · 13/12/2024 16:23

I really hope op realises how much she has been exploited here..
Not even a sister but I'd let a friend.. even one I wasn't particularly close to.. parl their van in my garage for a bit if they were fleeing an abusive situation
And I'd charge them nothing. If it were long term I might ask them to pay a portion if the utilities but that would be it.
And I'm on minimum wage and have 3 kids.
I'm astounded by the audacity of your own flesh and blood charging you what it would cost to be in a bedsit, on top of bills and on top of childcare and maid duties.. just to live in her damp cold garage. Beyond nuts. You quickly got yourself together as well it's not like you were in her space for years.
I'm so angry for you.
Please don't give this woman a penny.
Might be different if she apologised and said it was her shitty husband who had wanted you to pay rent and if she asked you nicely to help her out a bit... but demanding half!! Knowing it would mean you couldn't buy property!! And then getting in a strop coz you said no!!
Oh my God get in the bin.

binkie163 · 13/12/2024 16:25

Offer her the use of your van! If she wants to leave her husband, when they sell the house she will have enough for her own place. Husband is boring not violent so this is not an emergency.
You cannot come back from emotional blackmail, you will never trust her again and she will keep asking for more.

Fannyfiggs · 13/12/2024 16:26

Your sister is a dick. Do not give her a penny. Get your flat bought asap and tell her to fuck off.

user1471538283 · 13/12/2024 16:26

Tell your family how she "helped" you when you were fleeing abuse. I would help a stranger more. Then tell them it's not their money to spend. They can help her.

You use this money to make yourself secure.

SockFluffInTheBath · 13/12/2024 16:28

Buy the flat OP. Tell her she can live in your van in your flat’s parking space for £400pcm as long as she cleans your flat.

asthecrowdwaschantingmore · 13/12/2024 16:30

I'd tell her to do one.

only wanted to see you when she found out you had money.
And treated you like garbage when you needed help to escape an abusive relationship. She KNEW you were being abused, and made it harder for you to leave and actually profited from the situation.

Vile.

Waterweight · 13/12/2024 16:31

Your sister sounds like a manipulative cunt OP

So sorry she treated you like shit when you needed her & it sounds like someone's looking out for you lotto wise so grasp the opportunity to get your flat & don't look back

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