Colleen

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Watched Colleen Rooney in the jungle and now rewatching the wagatha thing on itv2, she just comes across so well, I actually love the background story and wonder even though they have all this money, I wonder if they ever crave those simple days of being 16 before it all kicked off. Just very normal people.
She seems so strong, classy, kind, just a morally good person really.

Seriously - he bought her a £30k engagement ring when she was 16 & they were living in their own privately owned home at 18

He was also named on the England Squad at 17 & sold to Manchester united shortly afterwards

She also knew his cousin at school & her father was close to his uncle while he advanced through the youth groups

As lovely as she is. There's absolutely no way she "knew him before he was rich/successful" he was an absolute child prodigy who was lauded from the minute he tried out for Everton to the day he was sold to Man united

Also to add: Wayne Rooney might have some questionable moral values (drinking & cheating) & an over attachment to a girl he had a crush on in highschool but wasn't interested till later (Coleen) but the constant undermining of his career & exceptional talents - far more so then any other footballer in his early age groups - to Build up the image of a happy go lucky girl who "knew him before hand & should be admired for not being like everybody else" is so incredibly offensive to the family who literally raised & forced him into the absolute top leagues of football so that he could support himself through life

You have no idea at sixteen how your life is going to turn out though. Huge numbers of young footballers fall by the way side through injury or other difficulties.

And what you said about them marrying young is half my point. They have done well to survive all of those trials and tribulations.

You carry on if you want to look at their relationship and see only money. But I choose and prefer to see other things. I am sure she is pretty wealthy in her own right now anyway. It’s obviously not money keeping them together now.

Looks Like Wayne’s mum has landed on the thread 😂

Eh? Surely they are a team? He supports her and vice versa. That’s usually how marriage works anyway.

No. As I said up the thread, they didn’t have a Catholic wedding. They brought over a priest from Liverpool, but chose to get married in a deconsecrated church where you couldn’t have a Catholic marriage ceremony. (Catholic weddings can only take place in consecrated Catholic churches. They were warned in advance by the local bishop and offered the use of a nearby church, but declined.) Unless they’ve since had a discreet marriage ceremony and kept it out of the media, they’re not married at all in the eyes of the church. If they divorced, Colleen could remarry in a Catholic Church because she was never married in canon law in the first place. It would count as her first marriage.

So no, I don’t buy the narrative of ‘Catholics don’t divorce, therefore she’s tragically trapped by a footballing sleazebag who looks like a potato’. Half the people I know who are divorced are Catholics. She’s choosing to remain married to him, as is her prerogative. I see that as a completely neutral choice. It’s a bit puzzling how much she’s being attacked for it on here. Why would it make her any more or less admirable if she’d divorced him?

100% but my point is the whole "knew him before he was rich" is entirely made up by the press

He worked incredibly hard. Had a very strict family & was successful in his career she was right to want to be with somebody like that & for her to want to make that relationship work even when he fell short on the relationship front.

She's got lovely kids & a nice life now which is a good thing but the constant undermining of his career to build up their relationship when they've never really split & bring totally different things to their marriage is just fueled by the media & her fans

I've always liked Coleen and wanted her to win I'm A Celeb. She seems such a genuinely decent, nice woman.

Besides the point I know but I also think she looks lovely without having completely changed her face. I think it's quite sweet that she hasn't got rid of that unsightly lump, but I suppose he's a good father to the boys.

Have to agree. And I loathe him. Rome model fur cheats and thugs imo.

I misread your last two sentences and was genuinely thinking ‘Does Colleen Rooney have some unsightly carbuncle on her face that I’ve never noticed, and which she’s chosen not to have surgically removed?’

Whose underlining his career? I can’t be arsed to read back but no one has mentioned his career I don’t think until you did!

Are you a member of his family or something? Everyone knows he’s a talented player. That kind of goes without saying.

But you make it sound like that it’s all one way and like Colleen has played no part in his success, when I am sure they support one another.

Mumsnet is a funny place sometimes. I really should go and write Christmas cards 😄

I'm enjoying her doc

Never seen

Will see part 2 tonight

She has such a cool calm way about her

I think she would make a great chat show host

The way she deducted it was RV

I met her many years ago and she was exactly the same then as she comes across now on TV. If that doesn't say authentic and genuine I don't know what does.

I think she did it because she wanted ppl to see the real her and not what the media and RV try to portray her as.

She would get half of what he owns anyway so if she wanted to leave she could but she obviously loves him.

I wonder what all the other players in the team thought when they realised Vardy dobbed them In and then how they were with Jamie after that.

His cheating was NOT 20 years ago! It may have started 20 years ago but he’s been caught with his pants down a lot more recently than that, shitty bastard!

I think your wrong RV should not have done what she did it was awful she didn't give a flying fig about putting Colleen through it and RV was the one that took it to court knowing that she was lying, don't dish it out of you can't take it back.

I work in PR and the media and all my journalist friends say he is still cheating left right and centre and has a number of NDA's out to stop stories being published (as does David Beckham.)

I like Colleen but my god she makes questionable choices.

I agree. I really like her, I think she's most likely a wonderful and devoted mother and wife, and has lived her life for her children, so now they're all at school it's time for her to be a bit selfish and do something for her.
We will never know the whole truth about how Wayne behaved, or how he is towards her, but that's okay because it's between them, and who are we all to judge. I loved watching her on Fearne Cotton's Happy Place podcast

Catholics get divorced. In fact, the Catholic Church won't start its annulment process until the parties to the marriage have a civil divorce.

Annulment is the adjudication by the Church's canon lawyers that a valid sacramental marriage never existed. Both parties are free to remarry in the Church if an annulment is granted.

The Church can forbid remarriage in the Church to one or both, too, depending on the reason(s) for the annulment - if one party is incontrovertibly gay, for instance. There are a few other reasons, all to do with an assessment that the person isn't capable of adhering to the marriage vows.

There are cultural reasons for a woman to decide not to divorce, perhaps to do with a religious viewpoint, or perhaps to do with culture of a family of origin, or perhaps personal ability to compartmentalise, who knows.

I think being a mother to 4 children is a great achievement

She'd be giving up half custody of the kids though ...

Which is worst then how much money she would get

I think Colleen is family orientated. They way she helped nurse her sister shows how strong she is. Her faith is strong and therefore she can forgive. Family is everything to her and good on her. As for those who say she hasn't got a single achievement to her name you are wrong. If you mean she hasn't a job title so therefore is nothing then shame on you, do you really think a career makes you a superior person ?

Really there isn't more to great achievement than being a mother ?

Plenty of women are mothers who are terrible people (not CR ...)