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To be feeling incredibly sad about not having a cohesive friendship group/wider circle of friends?

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FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 14:48

I am feeling so utterly miserable about my social life and situation. Sorry for the vent.

I feel bad saying this. I do have friends - two close ones from university, and one really close one from elsewhere. A few others from here and there. I'm always able to make plans/see someone for a drink/go to the theatre/have dinner with someone etc. With the two uni friends, we socialise much more casually too, and hang out all day at someone's house, for example.

However, I was a bit shy at university and going through some personal stuff. Entirely my fault. But I didn't make as much effort to socialise broadly and haven't ended up with a large group of friends/wider network of people I'm in touch with. I'm in my 30s now and most people I meet seem to have a handful of close friends, but often they're part of a larger group and a wider social network of friends and acquaintances. Besides my two university friends, most of the other friends I have are just from here and there, and are individual friendships. I know I could host parties etc and get people together, which I have done in the past, but I don't necessarily think they'd all gel, and in any case it's just not the same as that feeling of affection that comes from the shared history large friendship groups have due to spending a lot of time in the same place.

I make a lot of effort to keep in touch with the friends I do have, but still feel incredibly lonely sometimes. It would be so lovely to have a larger group of friends, walk into a room with several people I know well, and be invited to more things, and just have that extended network of "friends of friends" and lots of people around.

Obviously I'm going to keep making efforts to socialise and say yes to things, maybe join a book club etc, but realistically I just don't see how I will be able to create that friendship group for myself from scratch. I don't have a partner and that feels like something I also want to change, but honestly the friendship thing is getting me down more right now. One of my close university friends, who is absolutely lovely, has such a wide circle of people she's in touch with from university and elsewhere, and her lifestyle is just filled with people and activities and stories. I feel so jealous and my life feels so small in comparison. But I don't actually feel like less of a sociable person, or less interesting, or less fun/likeable than her! It's all down to choices I made. University is typically the time you build these kind of friendships and networks that you're connected with long after, and I didn't utilise the time well in that regard, having come away with only two close friends and no acquaintances.

Not sure what I'm looking for really. Advice? Commiseration? Similar experiences? Positive stories of establishing close friendship groups later in life? Thanks for reading.

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Disturbia81 · 08/12/2024 16:28

I don't think that's a common thing to have a huge friendship group.

Cattyisbatty · 08/12/2024 16:57

Most of my friends don't have that sort of group - I'm in my 50s now.
I haven't really stayed in touch with any friends from uni, but then I didn't meet my 'tribe' there and although I had good friends while there, that didn't last much of out of my 20s (partly to do with distance).
I made the majority of my friends in my teens where we did have a cohesive group from around age 15-18 (uni age) and I kept my good friends from that era (there's no 'big group' anymore although when I have parties they are all pleased to see each other and know some of my other friends too).
Others are from previous workplaces, school mums (although now DC are adults this has dwindled massively - was nice when it lasted).
So my soical life is probably the worst it's been for a while, but I have DH and some good friends, also some health issues which means it's not as easy to go out as it used to be and often I do it to please others (DH).
You're still young so I would try to find some type of group hobby where you will naturally have something in common.

NewName24 · 08/12/2024 17:13

FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 16:02

We go for dinner, meet for coffees, cinema trips/theatre with the ones who share those interests, meet after work for a drink etc. I invite people over for dinner and drinks sometimes. The problem isn't really my existing friendships - they are good and mostly strong - it's the not feeling part of a broader group.

I think this is a really healthy place to be, in terms of friendships.

You have longstanding friends with shared history.
You have local friends who you can do things with.
You have friends you enjoy hosting for.
You have people you can meet after work.
You have people you can do different things with (hang out all day / meet for coffee / go to the theatre).

It seems the only small thing you seem to be missing or yearning for is group you can all get together for a bigger party. In truth I don't think many people have that. Those that do will either have a large number they can invite from one thing (so many of the guests will already know each other), or feel comfortable inviting lots of individuals from separate parts of their lives.

OnlyHerefortheBiscuits · 08/12/2024 17:45

FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 15:17

Thank you for your comment. I absolutely agree I probably have a better social situation than many people. It's a blessing to have any close friends at all, let alone three. But it just feels...small? I rarely hang out with more than one person at a time!

Me neither! I have about 4 or 5 individual friends but none that know each other if you see what I mean.

Therefore, I never socialise in a group of people together. That format only happens at work events with teams of colleagues.

FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 18:35

Comforting to know some others feel similarly sometimes. I know there's been comments about large friendship groups being full of drama etc, but from what I've seen (appreciate I'm not in them, but have been on the past) that doesn't seem to be the case if it's mostly reasonable, well-adjusted adults!

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Honestly I have tried this - but it just doesn't happen! They are all quite different, in different life stages, and they get along fine when we meet but I don't think the motivation is there for anyone. Besides me, they're all part of wide friendship circles!

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leia24 · 08/12/2024 18:46

I think the idea of having a girl gang is overrated.
I am never ever lonely but I don't have a big friendship group from school or uni. I have my old mum friends from baby groups (baby is now 15), I have work friends I've picked up along the way (who have become very close friends), and I have mums I've found connections with at my daughters hobby. I also am very close with my sister. Loads of people I can call, text, meet up with for dinner, different groups I can go on a night out with, but not one big solid forever friends group. And it's fine and I'm really happy actually.

FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 18:47

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Ughh I don't know, maybe I'm not explaining it well. You're quoting very specific phrases I've used from other threads, lol. Maybe "tonnes" was an exaggeration. I do have quite a few individual friends though - maybe 12 or so, all from different stages of life but all totally unconnected to each other. All my socialising is always one-on-one, never a group situation, there's never that dynamic of belonging that comes with being part of a group.

So yes, I guess that is what I'm saying.

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FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 18:49

leia24 · 08/12/2024 18:46

I think the idea of having a girl gang is overrated.
I am never ever lonely but I don't have a big friendship group from school or uni. I have my old mum friends from baby groups (baby is now 15), I have work friends I've picked up along the way (who have become very close friends), and I have mums I've found connections with at my daughters hobby. I also am very close with my sister. Loads of people I can call, text, meet up with for dinner, different groups I can go on a night out with, but not one big solid forever friends group. And it's fine and I'm really happy actually.

That sounds nice. I think my issue is, besides my two university friends who do know each other, literally none ofmy socialising is in a group. There are no groups. It's always one on one. Just feeling a bit disconnected I suppose. * *

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FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 18:50

FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 18:49

That sounds nice. I think my issue is, besides my two university friends who do know each other, literally none ofmy socialising is in a group. There are no groups. It's always one on one. Just feeling a bit disconnected I suppose. * *

Like I don't necessarily want/need a solid forever friendship group. I get that's unrealistic and life doesn't always work like that.

I'm just literally part of no groups at all. I think that's what's getting me down.

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Early 30s, no partner. Im guessing I'd feel differently if I had a partner, but I'd still want to feel like I had good social circles of my own outside the relationship.

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lollylo · 08/12/2024 19:20

I picked up 2-3 friends from each life stage. So now I’m several decades in I have a set of friends. How old are you?

Driedonion · 08/12/2024 19:22

I had great friends at uni but only kept in touch with 2 long term.
Some friendships just don’t last and are only “for a season”.
I would concentrate on making more new friends rather than having regrets about the past.

Baddaybigcloud · 08/12/2024 19:24

You’ll probs get a group or at least a few mum friends when you have kids

Whippetlovely · 08/12/2024 19:29

The best quote I ever read was the miracle of Jesus was that he had 12 close friends in his 30's.

FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 19:30

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I do. And I meet my friends' friends there and its nice and we get on. But they don't translate into actual friendships, or me becoming part of that group in any meaningful way.

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LostittoBostik · 08/12/2024 19:31

I think some of this is age. I had a group like that at school but never since. Uni I had people I was friends with here and there but never a cohesive gang.

As an adult I've picked up some close new friends from workplaces or through parenting/nursery/school run, but they are mostly one-on-one or just three of us meeting up.

I've also been jealous of those big groups in the past but I've actually realised they are quite rare

LostittoBostik · 08/12/2024 19:35

Whippetlovely · 08/12/2024 19:29

The best quote I ever read was the miracle of Jesus was that he had 12 close friends in his 30's.

Ha ha ha! Relatable

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FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 19:42

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But it doesn't feel full. I don't socialise with all those friends regularly - we keep in touch but many have moved away, some have had kids so less time etc. There's about three people I see regularly. When you average it out, I end up having some kind of social plan every week, but that includes stuff like just popping over for a quick coffee or seeing my sister in law. It's not a full social life with exciting plans and regular invites to fun things. That's my point. Anyway, thanks for your comment.

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Whippetlovely · 08/12/2024 19:44

Op do you have kids? I think people feel differently at different stages of their life. I have a couple of school friends known for 20+ years, the rest of my friends are all ex work friends. (I didn't go to uni) I don't have large groups of friends and I'm not bothered. I have various friends I don't see for months but we do message and I know will be there if I need them. A couple that I see regularly and the others every few weeks as and when we can meet up. When you have a family it takes up a lot of your time and you have less time to socialise. Also your interests do change as you get older and you will drift apart from your uni friends, I have more in common with my work friends than my oldest school friends. In face my true friends really are my work friends so if I were you I'd try and build friendships with people at work if you can. After all these are people you spend most of the day with so will naturally get to know very well