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To think that if you’re even slightly rude to retail staff you should be banned from the store.

150 replies

ThisAquaCrow · 06/12/2024 15:33

Based on a conversation I’ve just had with a family member who has left work today again in tears because approximately 90% of the people she deals with range from low level rude right through to ‘you fucking bitch’ rude.

What is WRONG with people and if you are rude to retail staff on a regular basis, WHY?

OP posts:
ThisAquaCrow · 06/12/2024 17:14

Cailleach1 · 06/12/2024 17:09

I wouldn’t refuse to serve someone who had tried to jump the queue. I would have told them to join the queue as there were people there already there. i was in a bank once, patiently waiting my turn, when someone pushed in front of me and went to the counter. The person at the counter said, this person was before you. As a counter to the disgruntled entitled queue jumper, there would be a line of thankful people supporting someone who maintained fairness annd order like that.

You seem determined to blame retail workers. ‘I’m not serving you because you’ve jumped the queue’

The normal response ftom a civilised human being would be to join the fucking queue and wait their turn. Why would anybody need that spelled out to them?

OP posts:
Cailleach1 · 06/12/2024 17:15

Tracystubbs · 06/12/2024 17:09

I work in retail-9 years for my sins

I've been sworn at
Spat at
Punched/thumped/kicked
Threatened with rape
Had hot drinks thrown at me
Had hot food thrown at me
Had endless 'oi bitch/slag/useless fucker,where's my food?I've been waiting 20 minutes!' (We do check-more like 30 seconds)
Had threats to follow me home
Been groped
Had blokes walk up to me and thrust themselves into me
Been screamed at
Had people clicking their fingers at me
Been called thick
A teen who walked up to me and shoved his hands down my trousers
Had my hair pulled out
My uniform torn by angry customers
A bottle of orange juice thrown over my head (he ordered an orange juice,got an orange juice but had changed his mind-instead of asking if I'd mind swapping it,which I would have done,he walked in,grabbed me by my top and poured it over my head)

Loads more (the police are useless)

Lots of customers are amazing-they see I'm rushed off my feet and are lovely but at least once a shift,that one person will ruin everything

Thing is,I work damn hard,I will move mountains for you if your polite to me

Speak to me like I'm human and ill do whatever I can to help,I'll go above and beyond and everything else

Treat me like shit on your shoe and fuck you-im doing the bare minimum I can get away with

I cannot count how many times I've walked out of work in tears

(Our manager is amazing,but she can only do so much and the whole attitude of work is 'get on with it')

That sounds horrendous. It seems quite far from a subjective ‘slightly rude’ part of the question though. With the assaults, can or will the police not prosecute the assailants?

FoxtonFoxton · 06/12/2024 17:15

DD works in an incredibly busy retail store(clothing) and gets abuse regularly, mainly based around people wanting to return stuff. The vast majority of people are fine/nice fortunately. DD is very good at interaction and is polite and smiley so luckily also gets a lot of praise and the pay is decent so just puts up with the shit.

EmeraldRoulette · 06/12/2024 17:16

The replies here say it all

@ThisAquaCrow sorry your family member is having such a hard time.

mnreader · 06/12/2024 17:17

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Tracystubbs · 06/12/2024 17:17

Cailleach1 · 06/12/2024 17:15

That sounds horrendous. It seems quite far from a subjective ‘slightly rude’ part of the question though. With the assaults, can or will the police not prosecute the assailants?

The police are rang and if they bother to show up,they walk in with an air of 'what do you want us to do?'
It's all on camera,there are witnesses and they do fuck all
It's not worth phoning them

betterangels · 06/12/2024 17:19

Does it work both ways? And not only retail. I've been yelled at by staff several places in London this week for daring to want to go about living life in a wheelchair. Apparently, I should know to be invisible...

Cailleach1 · 06/12/2024 17:21

ThisAquaCrow · 06/12/2024 17:14

You seem determined to blame retail workers. ‘I’m not serving you because you’ve jumped the queue’

The normal response ftom a civilised human being would be to join the fucking queue and wait their turn. Why would anybody need that spelled out to them?

Not at all. I worked in retail jobs. Thankfully unlike the other poster, physical or verbal assault was never directed at me. I’m just saying I wouldn’t refuse to serve the person presuming they joined the queue in the correct place.

I’m curious as to what ‘slightly rude’ is though? Unfriendly, or abrupt was present. That didn’t bother me at all. In fact, less effort.

wombat15 · 06/12/2024 17:23

Seems like that would be a reversal of the customer is always right to the staff are always right.

I've worked in retail a lot over the years and while rude customers are a pain, being in tears seems a little over the top unless they are actually threatening.

CatsBeCrazy · 06/12/2024 17:23

My 16 year old is having this at the moment 😭 she said she didn't realise how bad people were until she had seen it with her eyes .
Grown men shouting out her for getting his own order wrong etc

80smonster · 06/12/2024 17:25

Primark? I think retail is probably fine, but like pubs and partners, it pays to be picky…

wombat15 · 06/12/2024 17:25

betterangels · 06/12/2024 17:19

Does it work both ways? And not only retail. I've been yelled at by staff several places in London this week for daring to want to go about living life in a wheelchair. Apparently, I should know to be invisible...

That's awful. I would complain to their head offices.

Fabulouslyunfabulous · 06/12/2024 17:26

Absolutely people shouldn’t be rude to anyone but I think shops would quite quickly shut down due to lack of customers sadly.

I think that it’s fine to say that you won’t serve someone who is being rude at that time but long term bans won’t work.

betterangels · 06/12/2024 17:29

wombat15 · 06/12/2024 17:25

That's awful. I would complain to their head offices.

I don't live in the UK anymore, but I felt so small. It was awful.

Cailleach1 · 06/12/2024 17:31

Tracystubbs · 06/12/2024 17:17

The police are rang and if they bother to show up,they walk in with an air of 'what do you want us to do?'
It's all on camera,there are witnesses and they do fuck all
It's not worth phoning them

Well, I suppose you can see why some places have those screens with the openings. It is not practical in many circumstances. Of course, the people who do these things are the ones who are solely responsible for their actions. However, I think the management should try to come up with some measures to keep you safer. Or, to persecute the people who do this.

Hope it improves.

Pumpkincozynights · 06/12/2024 17:33

I don’t think it’s always feasible for staff to have a full blown conversation with customers, they are too busy. Gone are the days when the shop assistant had all the time in the world to chat about the price of fish.
The population has boomed, places are ( usually) busy. Then you get other customers huffing and puffing because the cashier is taking their time with an elderly customer. I don’t work in retail, thankfully, but I do work with the general public and sone of them are aresholes.
Also remember, many people feel very hard done by having to do their job day in day out whilst knowing others do all and are no worse off for it.

meatyryvita · 06/12/2024 17:33

My sixth form age daughter is working in a very naice local gastro pub and is horrified at how rude people are. In fact, what was really funny/horrifying is that a family that we know went there and she was their waitress. They know her and would normally engage pleasantly with her but they were evidently in their 'retail/hospitality' zone and completely and utterly ignored her i.e. they didn't even look up from their conversation to thank her for handing over their meals.

Sushu · 06/12/2024 17:33

Members of the public can be so entitled. Some people treat retail and hospitality staff as if they’re an entirely different species. They may serve you but they’re not servants and there is no excuse for speaking to them like that!

I don’t think low level rudeness is acceptable in any way, shape or form. However, I am not sure how sustainable retail would be to ban every rude customer, even though they deserve it.

Calling someone a “fucking bitch” is verbal abuse and deserves a ban.

Pumpkincozynights · 06/12/2024 17:34

Others do sod all

altmember · 06/12/2024 17:37

It depends what you mean by 'even slightly rude'? Obviously swearing, foul language and being downright nasty isn't acceptable, but those things are way beyond 'slightly rude'. Slightly rude could just be forgetting to say thank you (maybe your young kids are distracting you while you're trying to pay), or not making eye contact at the right time. And there's lots of neuro diverse people out there who might come across as 'slightly rude' just because of how they happen to communicate. Do you really think people should be banned from a store just because of minor things?

Ultimately retail and hospitality staff do need to be pretty thick skinned because part of the job involves dealing with the inevitable occasional unhappy customer.

pumpkinpillow · 06/12/2024 17:42

Where does she work, OP?
90% of people being rude seems really high.
The majority of people I overhear in shops are polite.

LlynTegid · 06/12/2024 17:55

Companies seem so desperate for business it seems they will not ban customers or respond to unacceptable behaviour. Not realising how short sighted it is as staff of good quality are less likely to remain.

AloneLike · 06/12/2024 18:01

InfoSecInTheCity · 06/12/2024 16:13

Yep. This morning I went to Iceland where the woman on checkout was chatting to her colleague throughout the entire interaction, didn't look at me once just scanned my stuff while gabbing about her plans for the evening and ignoring me. Then in Tesco I used the self serve and needed someone to take a tag off so I pressed the button for assistance and looked around, finally found someone who was facing the other direction on his phone, when he finally turned around I waved to get his attention, he saw me and turned round again, luckily another staff member saw and came over.

Service is shit in most shops now and it feels even more galling when customers are having to do more of the job themselves with self scan.

Just to give a contrasting experience for Iceland - I went in last week looking something which they didn't have - the staff member who was restocking the freezers couldn't have been more helpful, directing me to a nearby store where it was in stock.

Nothatgingerpirate · 06/12/2024 18:03

GermanBite · 06/12/2024 15:50

Does it work both ways? Will people be dismissed on the spot for being rude to colleagues and customers?

If so, I think we might face another recruitment crisis.

👍😉

LittleBitAlexisLaLaLaLaLa · 06/12/2024 18:08

Currently on maternity leave from my retail job and customers’ behaviour has definitely got worse over the years, it’s really shocking how awful someone can be to another person for no obvious reason at all. Customer service has taken a hammering too, mostly due to job becoming harder to do- hours being slashed, minimal staff to save money, more and more demands being put on colleagues for little thanks and it does affect morale.

I can mostly ignore low level rudeness even when it irritates me but the brazenness of shoplifters is astonishing. The sheer number of customers who are outraged that nothing is done to physically stop them does my head in as much as the thefts themselves- no I’m not going to risk my own safety or the safety of others for the sake of a backpack full of steaks/washing powder/whatever. Yes, we do call the police but they don’t even come out when it turns violent until days later. If they come out at all.

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