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AIBU to say I'm surprised a healthcare CEO hasn't been assassinated sooner?

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Chowtime · 05/12/2024 12:44

Obviously what's happened in America with regard to Brian Thompson is awful but surely it was only a matter of time before someone revolted against their billionaire dollar profits and lack of payouts for individuals who've paid in for years.

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Cellotapedispenser · 05/12/2024 15:41

I like this idea as this might get rid of Elon Musk. And no I wouldn't care if he dropped dead. He's like a bond villain but real, and now potentially interfering in UK politics.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 05/12/2024 15:44

I wonder if there will be a spate of copycat killings as this may have given some people ideas.

PerkyViper · 05/12/2024 15:44

Cellotapedispenser · 05/12/2024 15:32

I thought the same. The US healthcare system is horrendous. It's only surprising this hasn't happened sooner. The rich are just too rich now and poor people are dying of simple illnesses. Perhaps this will give them pause for thought.

It's very naive to think this grim event is going to give the whole health insurance industry (and it is an industry) "pause for thought".

Capitalism is about protecting profit not people. Americans think socialised healthcare is communism (and therefore bad), and people protected by the ACA (Obamacare) voted for someone who wants to get rid of it (Trump). the state of the American healthcare system is very sad but unlikely to change any time soon.

jellybellysaregood · 05/12/2024 15:45

Cellotapedispenser · 05/12/2024 15:41

I like this idea as this might get rid of Elon Musk. And no I wouldn't care if he dropped dead. He's like a bond villain but real, and now potentially interfering in UK politics.

what's wrong with you? Jesus.

itsnotabouthepasta · 05/12/2024 15:45

It absolutely looked like a professional hit.

What I REALLY don't understand is the sheer volume of Americans who genuinely believe that THEY pay for our healthcare. I can't understand it in any sense.

The irony is that they probably pay more upfront each month in insurance premiums than we do in NI contributions - yet free healthcare at the point of access is apparantly bad!

Chowtime · 05/12/2024 15:55

itsnotabouthepasta · 05/12/2024 15:45

It absolutely looked like a professional hit.

What I REALLY don't understand is the sheer volume of Americans who genuinely believe that THEY pay for our healthcare. I can't understand it in any sense.

The irony is that they probably pay more upfront each month in insurance premiums than we do in NI contributions - yet free healthcare at the point of access is apparantly bad!

Do you think it looked professional? He wasn't even wearing gloves.

I admit he seemed very confident with the gun but I guess many Americans are.

My moneys on a disgruntled customer

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Birdscratch · 05/12/2024 16:02

I have absolutely no grounds for saying this because I’m not exactly familiar with murder for hire but I’d have thought a professional might opt for somewhere without loads of cctv and witnesses. This happened outside the company’s annual investor conference so I’d guess it might be an investor?

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 05/12/2024 16:20

The BBC's US partner CBS News is now reporting that the words - "deny", "defend" and "depose" - were meticulously written, not etched, onto the casings, according to a source briefed on the investigation.

So many American's are truly familiar with guns. This gunman was definitely sending a message.

beenwhereyouare · 05/12/2024 16:21

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No, I have to live with what other fools voted for.

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 05/12/2024 16:26

There was an episode in one of the Law And Order set of programmes, in which someone in a health insurance company was murdered, and the motive exposed as limits to what the company would pay for leading to the death of the murderer's child (leukaemia what should respond to a fairly low risk drug, but the drug wasn't covered because it is fairly expensive and needed life-long; so instead they had to go with the bone marrow transplant which is a hostile treatment carrying risk of death but which was covered by the insurance, and the child died as a result of the transplant)

So although this real life incident might be giving people ldeas because it's all across the headlines, the idea was already out there

The engravings on the bullets do seem to suggest a link to healthcare, but from what I've seen, motive has not yet been established

izimbra · 05/12/2024 17:02

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NadjaofAntipaxos · 05/12/2024 17:03

Is anyone watching the TV series The day of the Jackal with Eddie Redmayne and Lashanna Lynch?
I saw the still picture of the killer this morning and then watched the footage and I was really struck by the similarity.
I've no theory of whether they are a contract killer or a family member of a wronged insurance claimant, but crikey they seemed calm and efficient.

CulturalNomad · 05/12/2024 17:07

The engravings on the bullets do seem to suggest a link to healthcare

...or a red herring meant to deflect blame?

Someone went to a great deal of trouble to make sure that the victim wasn't targeted at or near his home. It would be easier to follow someone during their normal daily routine and catch them unaware in a more private/isolated area.

There was also a choice not to try to stage this as a random street crime/mugging gone sideways.

There are going to be reasons behind all these choices.

justasking111 · 05/12/2024 17:17

The message was chilling as to why only the person who organised the hit knows for sure.

Underthinker · 05/12/2024 17:19

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And you think this is an acceptable thing to say? I bet you think you're progressive don't you?

CulturalNomad · 05/12/2024 17:27

Cellotapedispenser · 05/12/2024 15:41

I like this idea as this might get rid of Elon Musk. And no I wouldn't care if he dropped dead. He's like a bond villain but real, and now potentially interfering in UK politics.

Oh dear, looks like someone's virtue signal was short circuited🙄

Reasonablereasons · 05/12/2024 17:35

😯

outerspacepotato · 05/12/2024 17:43

United Healthcare has been denying 32% of claims using an AI tool that had an error rate up to 90% according to Ars Tecnica.

Brian Thompson was under investigation by the DOJ for insider trading. He sold shares worth 15 million before news broke of a federal antitrust probe into the company back in Feb.

The meeting he was supposed to attend still went on. Talk about some cold mfers.

I imagine this will give back to the office, at least for the CEOs, a step back.

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TempestTost · 05/12/2024 17:45

PerkyViper · 05/12/2024 15:44

It's very naive to think this grim event is going to give the whole health insurance industry (and it is an industry) "pause for thought".

Capitalism is about protecting profit not people. Americans think socialised healthcare is communism (and therefore bad), and people protected by the ACA (Obamacare) voted for someone who wants to get rid of it (Trump). the state of the American healthcare system is very sad but unlikely to change any time soon.

Obamacare wasn't as great as a lot of people in the UK seem to think.

Of people I know, quite a few found their situation pretty similar under Obamacare, a few of these however couldn't get the coverage they wanted any more.

A few were much better off, mainly people with pre-existing conditions.

But a few were also worse off.

A lot of people weren't super satisfied with it.

InterIgnis · 05/12/2024 18:03

Chowtime · 05/12/2024 15:55

Do you think it looked professional? He wasn't even wearing gloves.

I admit he seemed very confident with the gun but I guess many Americans are.

My moneys on a disgruntled customer

He was wearing gloves.

It could be. Not necessarily a contract killer, but could be someone that was/is military and involved in special operations.

Being confident with a gun is very different to being confident to walk up to someone in broad daylight, in the middle of a busy street, and assassinate them. At the very least he’s methodical, well trained and practiced. At no point did he appear to be panicked, and he successfully made his exit. There’s not many people able to do that.

PerkyViper · 05/12/2024 18:03

TempestTost · 05/12/2024 17:45

Obamacare wasn't as great as a lot of people in the UK seem to think.

Of people I know, quite a few found their situation pretty similar under Obamacare, a few of these however couldn't get the coverage they wanted any more.

A few were much better off, mainly people with pre-existing conditions.

But a few were also worse off.

A lot of people weren't super satisfied with it.

Where did I say it was great? Its not a perfect solution by any means, but step in the right direction in terms of how healthcare provision is perceived

Chowtime · 05/12/2024 18:09

itsnotabouthepasta · 05/12/2024 15:45

It absolutely looked like a professional hit.

What I REALLY don't understand is the sheer volume of Americans who genuinely believe that THEY pay for our healthcare. I can't understand it in any sense.

The irony is that they probably pay more upfront each month in insurance premiums than we do in NI contributions - yet free healthcare at the point of access is apparantly bad!

I don't know a single American who believes that they pay for our healthcare - where did you get that from?

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/12/2024 18:12

NadjaofAntipaxos · 05/12/2024 17:03

Is anyone watching the TV series The day of the Jackal with Eddie Redmayne and Lashanna Lynch?
I saw the still picture of the killer this morning and then watched the footage and I was really struck by the similarity.
I've no theory of whether they are a contract killer or a family member of a wronged insurance claimant, but crikey they seemed calm and efficient.

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In a country of 335 million, 16.2 ex service personnel and where 42% of households have at least one firearm, you're not going to go far without meeting somebody with the ability to operate a gun. True, to be able to use a silencer and adjust on the fly is more skilled than every single one of them, but when there are more households with a gun than there are households with two cars, it's not the case that only a professionally trained sniper (who, let's face it, wouldn't have been anywhere near the target) could be capable of the act.

Spirallingdownwards · 05/12/2024 18:19

Mrsbloggz · 05/12/2024 12:58

I'm sure lots of billionaires will be feeling very nervous now.
Not that I am in any way shape or form in favor of vigilanteism but at the same time . . . he really had it coming😬

Sorry what? He had it coming? How vile and disgusting.

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