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AIBU to say I'm surprised a healthcare CEO hasn't been assassinated sooner?

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Chowtime · 05/12/2024 12:44

Obviously what's happened in America with regard to Brian Thompson is awful but surely it was only a matter of time before someone revolted against their billionaire dollar profits and lack of payouts for individuals who've paid in for years.

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CulturalNomad · 09/12/2024 21:22

SquirrelSoShiny · 09/12/2024 21:15

The hate online for that McDonald's employee is already something to behold. I would not want to be working there.

The anonymous keyboard warriors ganging up on someone working a minimum wage job in the fast food industry ... 🤔

SquirrelSoShiny · 09/12/2024 21:24

CulturalNomad · 09/12/2024 21:22

The anonymous keyboard warriors ganging up on someone working a minimum wage job in the fast food industry ... 🤔

Indeed.

jasjas3008 · 09/12/2024 21:44

BruFord · 09/12/2024 14:29

@CulturalNomad Yes, slightly different, but I had surgery earlier this year and as I have a high deductible plan, I paid the amount negotiated by the insurance company, about $4,500.

Without insurance, my bill would've been over $30,000!! It makes no sense to me, because if the hospital was willing to accept $4,500 for the procedure, why not just charge everyone that?

Few people can pay $30K upfront anyway, I'd have had to go on a monthly payment plan, which is inefficient for the hospital.

I had a small non patched, hernia op, covered by AXA PPP, the price without insurance was £3200.

BUT i was accidently sent the insurance invoice, £1200....

2019 prices all UK.

Why?

EsmaCannonball · 09/12/2024 22:05

An anti-capitalist activist who eats in MacDonald's?

CulturalNomad · 09/12/2024 22:22

EsmaCannonball · 09/12/2024 22:05

An anti-capitalist activist who eats in MacDonald's?

I think the online "Viva la Revolution" crowd are going to need to be patient and see what this young man from a very privileged background has to say for himself before anointing him some kind of hero.

There's nothing honorable in sneaking up on someone and shooting them in the back.

LeavesOnTrees · 09/12/2024 23:58

Apparently he suffered a spine injury last year, which suggests a motive..
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I hope the McDonald's employee gets left alone, he was going to get caught sooner or later. Plus he seems to have made no effort to not look totally guilty - he could have at least got rid of the gun.

gannett · 10/12/2024 10:20

CulturalNomad · 09/12/2024 22:22

I think the online "Viva la Revolution" crowd are going to need to be patient and see what this young man from a very privileged background has to say for himself before anointing him some kind of hero.

There's nothing honorable in sneaking up on someone and shooting them in the back.

I think you're confusing dark online humour with anyone actually believing the assassin is an unalloyed hero.

The focus should be on whether Brian Thompson lived anything resembling an honourable life. He's the one who leaves a legacy of utter evil behind him.

KenAdams · 10/12/2024 10:57

His background makes the whole thing curiouser. On the surface, it seems like he could have afforded the surgery anyway?

Moresweetsplease · 10/12/2024 11:00

Not sure how accurate this is but from what I read he is estranged from his wealthy family so I’m not sure how much money he actually has.

The focus should be on whether Brian Thompson lived anything resembling an honourable life. He's the one who leaves a legacy of utter evil behind him

@gannett Completely agree 🎯

justasking111 · 10/12/2024 13:07

The American insurance company that decided to not cover you under anaesthesia if the operation took longer than anticipated is unbelievable.

My husband waited at the spire as the previous operation over ran due to complications. He was an hour late going in. He'd be horrified if that patient was gouged.

40YearOldDad · 10/12/2024 13:45

Mrsbloggz · 05/12/2024 12:58

I'm sure lots of billionaires will be feeling very nervous now.
Not that I am in any way shape or form in favor of vigilanteism but at the same time . . . he really had it coming😬

What a fucking statement, 'he really had it coming', for doing his job, regardless of if you agree with his job or not. What next, you can't get a council house, so you murder the council leader? Give your head a wobble.

We all have different tipping points, and what we believe is unjust, but murdering a CEO because of the health care in America.

I'm sure billionaires will now have a lot of security, but what about the lower level managers who can't afford 80-100k security detail. Are they fair game to send a message if you can't get to the CEO?

gannett · 10/12/2024 14:00

40YearOldDad · 10/12/2024 13:45

What a fucking statement, 'he really had it coming', for doing his job, regardless of if you agree with his job or not. What next, you can't get a council house, so you murder the council leader? Give your head a wobble.

We all have different tipping points, and what we believe is unjust, but murdering a CEO because of the health care in America.

I'm sure billionaires will now have a lot of security, but what about the lower level managers who can't afford 80-100k security detail. Are they fair game to send a message if you can't get to the CEO?

"Doing his job" is not a get-out clause. The job and the industry are built on death and misery. Doing his job was the problem. In a just world there'd be a path to accountability that wasn't a vigilante assassin.

Brian Thompson led a shameful life profiting off other humans' misery. He had it coming.

Mrsbloggz · 10/12/2024 14:13

40YearOldDad · 10/12/2024 13:45

What a fucking statement, 'he really had it coming', for doing his job, regardless of if you agree with his job or not. What next, you can't get a council house, so you murder the council leader? Give your head a wobble.

We all have different tipping points, and what we believe is unjust, but murdering a CEO because of the health care in America.

I'm sure billionaires will now have a lot of security, but what about the lower level managers who can't afford 80-100k security detail. Are they fair game to send a message if you can't get to the CEO?

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justasking111 · 10/12/2024 14:25

40YearOldDad · 10/12/2024 13:45

What a fucking statement, 'he really had it coming', for doing his job, regardless of if you agree with his job or not. What next, you can't get a council house, so you murder the council leader? Give your head a wobble.

We all have different tipping points, and what we believe is unjust, but murdering a CEO because of the health care in America.

I'm sure billionaires will now have a lot of security, but what about the lower level managers who can't afford 80-100k security detail. Are they fair game to send a message if you can't get to the CEO?

That occurred to me. Your neighbour works for a health insurance company. Does that make them fair game?

It's chilling.

gannett · 10/12/2024 14:42

justasking111 · 10/12/2024 14:25

That occurred to me. Your neighbour works for a health insurance company. Does that make them fair game?

It's chilling.

But not, in fact, as chilling as the health insurance industry in its entirety, and the normalisation of what it is built to do.

CulturalNomad · 10/12/2024 14:53

KenAdams · 10/12/2024 10:57

His background makes the whole thing curiouser. On the surface, it seems like he could have afforded the surgery anyway?

It's not even clear if he had any personal experience with United Healthcare or if he has a gripe against the entire industry and Thompson was just a relatively easy target.

In his manifesto he made reference to "these parasites had it coming" - Parasite(s), plural. Were more murders planned? Would explain why he held on to the murder weapon (which really makes no sense).

What is clear to me is that nothing in this young man's privileged country club/prep school/Ivy League background has prepared him for spending the next 1-2 years in a NYC jail awaiting trial. These are notoriously gang-infested, understaffed, violent facilities; he won't do well😬

CalicoPusscat · 10/12/2024 15:13

@CulturalNomad you really think only 1-2 years???
Edit: ohhh you mean time waiting for trial!

CulturalNomad · 10/12/2024 15:38

CalicoPusscat · 10/12/2024 15:13

@CulturalNomad you really think only 1-2 years???
Edit: ohhh you mean time waiting for trial!

Edited

Yes, he'll be held in one of those facilities while he's awaiting trial. Very doubtful given the nature of the crime that a judge would set bail.

I do wonder if he never planned on getting caught. There's that phenomenon known as "suicide by cop". Did he see himself killing a few people then going down in a blaze of " glory"?

EasternStandard · 10/12/2024 16:51

It's extreme where he had a good education etc

Prison will be pretty scary I would have thought, the reality against writing an anti corporate manifesto

CalicoPusscat · 10/12/2024 17:05

Apparently he told the McDonald's employee to phone the police and claim the reward

This is the Internet, who knows 🤷‍♀️

Resilienceisimportant · 27/12/2024 01:09

DanielaDressen · 07/12/2024 17:41

It’s a mix, they have Medicare which provides necessary essential stuff….so guess similar to the nhs but most Canadians will also have private insurance to help pay for drugs (don’t think there’s a capped fee like in the U.K., so can be more expensive) and it also helps with glasses and dentists.

Ummm no it’s not Medicare nor is it a mix. There are no private hospitals or private surgeries. It’s difficult to get a doctor due to location and availability but the doctors aren’t all in private practise waiting for you to ring their bell. . And yes very similar to NHS. Not really private healthcare in Canada as we don’t believe because you have money your health care should be better but you can get a medical plan through work to top up things like prescription fees, glasses etc

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