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Teacher treating children too young

313 replies

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 21:40

My child is in a year 3 class, the teacher now sings a song to get them to sit on the carpet and has organised a book advent for this week. The children are 7 and 8, I feel they are far too old to be sung to sit on the carpet. Aibu to talk to the headteacher?

OP posts:
Popfan · 02/12/2024 22:29

Age 7 / 8 is still pretty little. A song to signal they should be on the carper is both lovely and age appropriate. The book advent also sounds great and could also work with much older children.

Soontobe60 · 02/12/2024 22:37

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 22:25

I didn't say it was harming anyone, more that I expected a teacher to not be singing to 8 year old. I would of thought an experienced teacher would have more age appropriate strategies.

As a Primary school teacher, I would have thought a university lecturer would know that ‘would of’ should be ‘would have’ to be grammatically correct.

Jumpers4goalposts · 02/12/2024 22:49

OP I think you need to read the room.

WearyAuldWumman · 02/12/2024 22:53

Thegoatliesdownonbroadway · 02/12/2024 21:36

I am 65 and would love to be sung to on a carpet.

Nearly 65 and the same...but I don't think that I'd be able to get back up these days... (Patella alta and arthritis.)

CyanMaker · 03/12/2024 00:03

I think the teacher needs to do what works for her group of kids. If you object to the song tell us your ideas of how to get the kids' attention.

Awaywiththefairies078 · 03/12/2024 06:24

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 21:40

My child is in a year 3 class, the teacher now sings a song to get them to sit on the carpet and has organised a book advent for this week. The children are 7 and 8, I feel they are far too old to be sung to sit on the carpet. Aibu to talk to the headteacher?

Are you serious?! Kids love singing. As a year 5 teacher I don’t have songs for jobs but if I said to the class, well done, give yourselves a pat on the back for something, they all burst into song- “give yourselves a pat on the back, a pat on the back, a pat”.. you get my drift. They love it.
And why go straight to the headteacher? Why not just chat to the teacher if that concerned?

SweetChilliGirl · 03/12/2024 06:29

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 22:25

I didn't say it was harming anyone, more that I expected a teacher to not be singing to 8 year old. I would of thought an experienced teacher would have more age appropriate strategies.

I would have expected a 'University Lecturer' to use accurate grammar. Please tell me where you work so I report you to your boss.

Hobnobswantshernameback · 03/12/2024 07:39

Not that I think the OP is vaguely interested given that they are too busy with their would of shit stirring
but for those that are
here is why singing is about more than music

www.youngacademics.com.au/singing-to-support-language-development/

Spriterat · 03/12/2024 07:56

And we wonder why teachers don’t want to stay in their jobs.
unbelievable that you would actually consider speaking to the head about this.
How would you suggest the teachers organises the students? Have you any experience in a classroom?

TheCompactPussycat · 03/12/2024 10:42

EmpressOfTheThread · 02/12/2024 19:58

I wonder if the OP will return......🤔

I doubt it. Once you've lied about your job to try to gain credibility, you've already lost your argument. I suspect the OP has never been near a university in her life.

sashh · 03/12/2024 10:52

EmpressOfTheThread · 01/12/2024 22:16

Wouldn't that be lovely! Imagine if sales assistants sang to you at the counter!

I once bought a washer because the sales assistant serenaded me.

OP

In the nicest possible way, you are bonkers.

I've taught mostly teens - adults, I gave out stars, small prizes and OMG the day I took in felt tips with 'Frozen' characters on them! If you want 17 year old girls to get on with their work give them 'Frozen' pens.

Littlefish · 03/12/2024 11:07

You are utterly nuts op.

Actually, what you've said just makes you look like a twat.

I've taught from nursery to year 6 and used songs and rhymes in every single year group extremely effectively for classroom management, times tables, spelling etc and, shock horror, sometimes just for fun!

There is plenty of research available about the positive effect of music on brain development and guess what, it's not restricted to under 7s.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 03/12/2024 11:11

Do any of the children have an issue with it? I would assume not
Anyway it's not like she's sitting them down to watch Teletubbies, it's a simple song as part of the class routine - I'm sure they still do all the age-appropriate class work

IainTorontoNSW · 03/12/2024 11:29

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 22:25

I didn't say it was harming anyone, more that I expected a teacher to not be singing to 8 year old. I would of thought an experienced teacher would have more age appropriate strategies.

You claim to be an academic (university lecturer) and you seem to know bugger-all about good pedagogy or student management.

You are also low on the scale of English usage too. e.g. "I would of thought" [sic] instead of the correct "I would have thought". In several of your posts in this thread you consistently misuse the intransitive form of verbs. Either, English is not your first language or you set yourself very low standards of articulate communication.

Better that you learn to accept that your child's teacher uses songs and musical cues to establish class routines and to focus the children at particular times of the school day.

If you feel that you must intervene, do approach the teacher and ask your questions from an "I need information" POV.

Ask the teacher, "I am a little surprised at some of your classroom methods that I hear about from my child. Is your singing and use of music in line with the needs of some of the student cohort?"

Maybe, also, try, "I have found (at home) that my child is more of a visual/aural/kinaesthetic learner. My spouse and I find direct requests work well with her/him nearly all the time."

And, perhaps, "Do you have any specific advice that we need to know to assist our child glean the most from the curriculum this year. We'd be more than happy to reinforce your guidance."

CrowleyKitten · 03/12/2024 15:53

7 and 8! by that age they should be sitting on a hard floor! not on a CARPET! stop mollycoddling them.

Ivyn · 03/12/2024 15:56

Spriterat · 03/12/2024 07:56

And we wonder why teachers don’t want to stay in their jobs.
unbelievable that you would actually consider speaking to the head about this.
How would you suggest the teachers organises the students? Have you any experience in a classroom?

My thoughts precisely.

Maxstress3 · 03/12/2024 15:57

Everyone has mentioned the support for the teacher and singing in class and rightly so. BUT what I am looking at is the poor child, would hate to know their life at home! Let the kids be kids

itsgettingweird · 03/12/2024 15:58

Playing a song or singing a song that lasts a minute or so after something like lunch where there need to transition from running around to inside or from sitting at a desk to moving to the carpet is very inclusive.

It allows all those who need a fidget break the length of the song to prepare and get settled.

We all need movement breaks and it's a great way of setting the bounties and a time limit without making it negative.

But you'd rather judge the teacher 🤷‍♀️

Takeoutyourhen · 03/12/2024 21:30

How has your meeting with the head gone OP? Or have you gone straight to your local university and initial teacher training hubs to get them to abandon this music nonsense before anyone qualifies?

ILoveVeg · 03/12/2024 22:44

OP seems to have gone a bit quiet......

Saschka · 03/12/2024 23:02

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 22:25

I didn't say it was harming anyone, more that I expected a teacher to not be singing to 8 year old. I would of thought an experienced teacher would have more age appropriate strategies.

Yep, outrageous that the teacher is using music in the classroom. Literally no children like music or singing or dancing. Playing them a clip from Call of Duty would be much more appropriate for a group seven year olds.

OP I really hope this is a fake post because if not you sound deranged. It’s not like the teacher is making them watch full episodes of Cocomelon.

Let your seven year old be a seven year old, instead of bragging about how “advanced” they are by not liking songs any more.

Jolenepleasetakeawaymyman · 05/12/2024 06:53

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 01/12/2024 21:51

What does your child like OP if they're too grown up for a song?

Playing GTA, vaping and drinking a can of Monster maybe.

BusyMum47 · 05/12/2024 06:56

QueenOfWeeds · 01/12/2024 21:49

The teacher bought them books! Absolutely complain. Please do. It’s a long term, the staff could use a laugh.

How else would you like the teacher to get the children to sit down? Songs are a great cue without being naggy, and also act like a timer. 30 second song = 30 seconds to be sitting down ready, but without actually putting the pressure of a timer on.

This!! ⬆️ FFS.

As an exhausted, stressed out Primary School Teacher, thanks for all the supportive messages on here. 💗

EmpressOfTheThread · 05/12/2024 07:41

@BusyMum47 - you're doing a brilliant job! 👍

BusyMum47 · 05/12/2024 07:57

EmpressOfTheThread · 05/12/2024 07:41

@BusyMum47 - you're doing a brilliant job! 👍

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