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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think it's impossible to do it all.

77 replies

Outandabout43 · 01/12/2024 08:20

Work full time
Keep a tidy house
All the washing
Help with homework
Cook fresh healthy food
Attend school events.
Take to clubs
Play woth children
Food shop
Sort Christmas/ birthdays
Life admin

And then you get told its important to have you time. When???? When am I supposed to have me time??

I love my children and DH pulls his weight too. I also know as the children grow, it will get easier, but seriously, how are we supposed to do it all??

OP posts:
RaspberryRipple2 · 01/12/2024 09:07

List all of these out on a piece of paper and rank each one on how important it is to you out of 10. Then prioritise the highest scoring ones and compromise on the others.

my dc are a bit older now but when they were younger I worked part time as spending time actively with them was more important. Now I don’t help with homework unless requested, house isn’t very tidy that often but I do have a cleaner. I play with dc occasionally, food shop is online and we sometimes eat home cooked food and sometimes have things with toast/freezer food.

I spend more time relaxing than on housework/admin etc as being happy/content is more important than any of these - as I can’t do the other things well if I don’t have that!

SomethingFun · 01/12/2024 09:09

I can do most things but I don’t have much time to myself. Which is a bit shit really. I want to focus on getting more rest so I am not so tired - I run out of steam about 7pm which would be when I would have some time to do something that replenishes me rather than spending hours on instagram because it’s easy and I’m tired.

BCBird · 01/12/2024 09:10

When you think about it rationally, it's clear it cannot all be done. In the past often one person would be at home doing everything, whilst the other worked. The person at home would have ' me time' if kids were at school. If both of you are working full time there is no way this can be done. You need some quality of life. This means either some things are not done, or not done to the standard you would like or you outsource them. One of the things I do- I live alone no kids but have a demanding job, is have 5 outfits thst don't need ironing. I also have a cleaner. I have my shopping delivered too. Perhaps you and your husband could sit down and see what changes you could make as a team?

Ponoka7 · 01/12/2024 09:13

I don't think that you can. I'm my DD's childcare and my eldest DD has opted not to have children, but loves doing activities with my GC. There's, in effect, four of us and we manage between us. I shop and take over things like seasonal window decorations, school stuff and some days out. School expects a lot of engagement from parents. I don't think that parenting has been this intense for other generations. I've seen a change even between when my eldest GC started school and the youngest.

sHREDDIES19 · 01/12/2024 09:18

I can do all those things but it involves being really organised and having slightly older kids that can occupy themselves. Not possible when they were very little.

SleeplessInWherever · 01/12/2024 09:24

I don’t do anywhere close to it all.

Some weeks everything is as close to under control as we can get, others it’s like 50% done. We are very much just surviving at the moment.

As long as everyone goes to bed fed, clean and happy - that’ll do for me. The rest of it gets done, when it gets done.

Loopytiles · 01/12/2024 09:28

For me it got a bit easier for a time but harder again with teenagers. Am constantly trying to find new corners to cut or balls that can drop, at work and home.

I find the prospect of what are meant to be enjoyable family things like hosting or holidays stressful.

Newmumburnout · 01/12/2024 09:29

Hi OP, I have been trying to tackle this very issue recently before it makes me depressed. Il give you ideas that I have had that have helped.

  1. Food shop - spend 1 HR creating a spreadsheet with 4 weeks of meals with links and then a shopping list for that week. Rotate on a 4 week basis. If you have one ask DH to do the online shop and never think of food shopping again. You and DH share cooking chores. Use a slow cooker and cook double portion and freeze. Include freezer meal in next week meal plan. Also choose easy meals for other ones.
  1. Cleaning- the organised mum method. It's worked for me very well. Get some good over the ear headphones and listen to you good podcast. It's half an hour per day and I look forward to it cos my podcast is so good. If your kids are older they must help..use baskets, I have a big basket downstairs where I can throw all toys at the end of the day. Keeps things tidy. Get a spray mop. Also easy to sweep and mop.any hard floors.
  2. give DH his jobs to do around the house and leave him to do them. It becomes obvious if they dont. Mine has the bathroom, laundry, bins.
  1. Subscribe subscribe and subscribe. I have toilet roll, washing up liquid, hand wash tablets etc on a subscription. Again done have to think about it. Doesn't cost any more than the supermarkets if you shop around.and you can choose environmentally friendly ones too.
  1. Use a mobile hairdresser who can come to the house and cut everyone's hair at the same time. Mine also colours mine.

I think I have done more but this is what I can remember and it has helped my enormously.

Hope this helps. ( Did not read all the posts so sorry if it duplicates)

Dreamsof · 01/12/2024 09:35

Ggmores · 01/12/2024 09:02

I think it’s possible. We think we ‘do it all’, but maybe our standards are different to yours. We have a cleaner one a week and apart from the occasional robo vacuum, we don’t clean anything else during the week (apart from a kitchen wipe down).

Food shop takes 10mins to do online. Birthdays/christmas we keep a running list on shared notes on our phones so ordering takes 10mins online when required.

I don’t think we have a lot of life admin, dentists are booked at the end of each visit. Doctors as and when online (often an easy video call), utilities/bills/mortgage aren’t frequent and compared online in no time.

We have a good selection of quick easy fresh meals to cook, one cooks whilst the other does homework.

As we have a cleaner we have nothing admin/house to do at the weekend and spend the whole time out doing things. Washing takes 5mins to load in the morning /overnight, then 10mins to hang out to dry either morning/when we get home/lunchtime if wfh.

We both see friends a couple of times a week (during the week so doesn’t disturb family time as children are in bed).

I feel we have balance, I wouldn’t change anything and I don’t feel stressed or that I’m missing out on anything. We both work full time (40hrs a week). Our employers are decent and don’t mind time off for school events etc. We both have project rather than time based jobs so relatively flexible. In my mind, with my expectations, I think we do it all and are really happy.

I really enjoyed reading your post, you sound like you have it all worked out!

KoalaCalledKevin · 01/12/2024 09:35

I do this. But DH genuinely does half. Not just half the housework but everything. I wouldn't be able to do it without him. And he wouldn't be able to do it without me.

We both wfh, which is a huge help. During lunch, one of us can do a quick bit of housework while the other puts something in the slow cooker for dinner for example. And having no commute helps with childcare and time in the evenings. If we both worked out of the house full time, we wouldn't be able to do what we do now.

We also don't do the laundry/cleaning to the level that some people on MN seem to. That isn't because we've purposely lowered our standards, I've never thought it necessary to wash towels after every use or vacuum every single day for example. We don't have a pet which helps with that I guess.

Food shop is done online, takes 10 mins. And as we're wfh, easy to schedule a delivery for a lunchtime.

WooleyMunky · 01/12/2024 09:37

OP, this is Mumsnet.
You are being totally unreasonable by not managing all of this.
Meals are easy, one chicken and a bag of veg provides meals for a week.
The cleaner should cover the housework, you are paying her 5p over the minimum rate after all.
The children should be able to make their Mandarin/piano/animal husbandry lessons by themselves.
As the CEO of your own organic denim start-up you should be letting your staff do more work.
If your useless husband isn't helping, LTB.

Newmumburnout · 01/12/2024 09:38

Thought of another one to reduce life admin. Buy a bulk brown craft wrapping paper, twine, multi pack of cards, sellotape, scissors etc. add to a box and store. When a birthday or occasion comes up you just buy the gift and don't have to get any of the extras

Newmumburnout · 01/12/2024 09:40

WooleyMunky · 01/12/2024 09:37

OP, this is Mumsnet.
You are being totally unreasonable by not managing all of this.
Meals are easy, one chicken and a bag of veg provides meals for a week.
The cleaner should cover the housework, you are paying her 5p over the minimum rate after all.
The children should be able to make their Mandarin/piano/animal husbandry lessons by themselves.
As the CEO of your own organic denim start-up you should be letting your staff do more work.
If your useless husband isn't helping, LTB.

😂😂

Mischance · 01/12/2024 09:45

It IS impossible to do it all and always has been. But we have been sold the myth that it can be done. This (ducks below parapet) is why one parent used to be at home for a few years, but now all these important parenting tasks have to be be fitted in round work. It clearly cannot be done.

I do think that one parent should be supported to be at home - that this should be accepted as the norm - that their role should be valued in the same way as earning money and pursuing a career.

Things have turned on their head - being a parent is seen as a sideline to the the basic economic role of both men and women. Once upon a time women were seen purely as homemakers and then, quite rightly, their educational and career prospects were improved, and now they are locked into the idea that this is what they MUST do, not simply that this is what they can choose to do.

Women's education has given us choice on the surface, but in fact has only given us hugely burdensome lives that demand more of us than any one person can cope with.

One of my DDs has created a situation where her full time career continues, but her OH works only part time and does all the shopping, cooking, child care, school pick-ups etc. It works fine for them. I do not think it matters which parent does which or how the tasks are shared, but someone has to have a bigger role in supporting the children and the home.

I am probably a bit older than most on here - I am sure you had already surmised that! - and I am looking back from the position of someone whose heath has taken a plummet and feeling sad at watching so many women meeting themselves coming back and feeling guilty that they cannot do justice to either career or home/children at a time when they are fit and well and in the prime of their lives - a time for feeling good, not bad! The sword of Damocles of decrepitude is just around the corner!

I was lucky in that I managed both a career (well actually 2 different ones) by working part time for the critical child years, and my OH played his part by having one day off in the middle of the week. It all made our finances a bit iffy for several years, and yes it has affected my pensions, but it was worth it. We both got time with the children and did not completely sink under the load.

Parental leave assumes that people will return to their careers when it ends - it would be good if the assumption was that that return would incorporate a part time element as of a right and a norm. We ask too much of parents now.

One of the spin-offs of this attitude is that grandparents finish up in a child care role - which is great if that is what they want and they do it well - but it should not be seen as the first option - having a parent at home more should be seen as the first one. That is what most parents want. Pouring government support into paid child care is not necessarily the best option. That same money could support parents to be at home with their children for a period of time.

There is no easy answer, but in order to make parents' lives easier (and thus improve the lives of children) there needs to be a change of norms and expectations.

PinkSkiesAtNight · 01/12/2024 09:48

Prioritise.

I'm a single mum, work full time. I'm lucky that DS gets a nutritious 3 course lunch at school (not UK), but evening meals are generally healthy but simple, scrambled egg/beans/peas and broccoli type things. I batch cook sometimes, so make about 10 portions of Bolognese at a time and freeze it. We do sports in the evenings, so that weekends are 'fun times' apart from a fortnightly match as of this year. I try to exercise while DS is exercising. I swim while he does, and train alongside the pitch while he trains.

I think being tied to sports/clubs at the weekend would make me feel even more tied down. During the week we're busy, but weekends are our own.

TV helps. But usually only so that I can clean. House is....not tidy, but fairly clean. Dusting often gets left! Hate dusting.

Christmas....I start thinking early, it helps that I love it. Shopping is pretty much done now, so it's just food to think about.

stayathomer · 01/12/2024 09:52

I think you can do it all but not to the standard you’d love to do it all to and I think you have to pick which is more important eg spotlessly clean house or time with the kids. I find when I’ve the house in really good condition I realise the kids have spent most of the day on screens or haven’t looked at their homework etc. the only people I know who get it all together have so many systems in place, are up late cleaning (if they don’t have people coming in to help) and are permanently stressed/ on edge (thinking of three different families)

ps and this was actually applicable to me as sahm too because when I was I had so many people to help out, people needing lifts, things posted for them, prescriptions picked up, school needing volunteers etc)

Colourblinds · 01/12/2024 09:57

Just prioritise, for heaven’s sake. You mention having a husband. Two people should be able to do this easily.

Rubbish.

I don’t believe it’s possible to balance work, dc, family life, relationship with partner, relationships with friends & family and then me time plus all the other stuff eg exercise, cooking from scratch every day, keeping up top of the house etc.
You can balance a few but not all at once.

Colourblinds · 01/12/2024 09:59

I try & juggle a few plates at once and then change a plate. Working p/t, flexi, remotely, outsourcing and family help all helps though.

UnrelatedTo · 01/12/2024 10:00

Colourblinds · 01/12/2024 09:57

Just prioritise, for heaven’s sake. You mention having a husband. Two people should be able to do this easily.

Rubbish.

I don’t believe it’s possible to balance work, dc, family life, relationship with partner, relationships with friends & family and then me time plus all the other stuff eg exercise, cooking from scratch every day, keeping up top of the house etc.
You can balance a few but not all at once.

And yet many people do.

midgetastic · 01/12/2024 10:02

It's called life - and working full time and raising children as a single parent is always going to be difficult ( given the list I guess you must be. A single parent)

drop a few things if you have to but otherwise me time is what you get when they get older

Colourblinds · 01/12/2024 10:06

School expects a lot of engagement from parents. I don't think that parenting has been this intense for other generations

good point

Plastictrees · 01/12/2024 10:06

UnrelatedTo · 01/12/2024 10:00

And yet many people do.

Yes to the detriment of their physical and mental health, and quality of relationships.

Colourblinds · 01/12/2024 10:06

@UnrelatedTo I don’t know anyone who does…

Sharptonguedwoman · 01/12/2024 10:07

You can't. You can streamline and mimimalise - shop on line, simple evening meals a couple of times a week. Most working women take shortcuts somewhere. Chatting one lunchtime to colleagues I found people had help with cleaning/ironing/gardening/bought ready meals. I'm only speaking for women as these particular colleagues were women.

UnrelatedTo · 01/12/2024 10:10

Colourblinds · 01/12/2024 10:06

@UnrelatedTo I don’t know anyone who does…

Maybe because you know women married to men who don’t cook, clean or do the grocery shopping, and regard looking after their own children as ‘babysitting’? That seems to be the chief block on Mn.