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AIBU to feel this was odd and dismissive?

81 replies

JensenButtonsBellyButton · 27/11/2024 23:01

This happened a while ago but it comes into my mind occasionally so wanting some outside perspective.

DH, 2 kids and I were attending DH’s uncle’s funeral at other end of country so long drive. On arrival at aunt’s house found that she wanted DH and his brother ( her nephews) to be in funeral cars. I was a bit taken aback as we’d come as a family, but ok. So SIL and I drove our cars ( with our kids) to the funeral.
On arrival we discovered that main funeral party ( aunt, her kids and their partners, DH, BIL and my MIL) were of course sat in front two rows. But, and here’s where I’m not sure if I’m being unreasonable, there was nowhere for us to sit. They hadn’t kept any seats for me, SIL and our kids. It was full so we had to stand at the back.

AIBU to think this was…odd?

OP posts:
Manthide · 05/12/2024 16:38

I have been in funeral cars too many times and my dh or dc have never come with me but been driven by dh or another relative. Funeral cars are expensive so generally it is only closest blood relations. Also seats at the church/ crematorium are never reserved except the front couple for close family. Have you never been to a funeral before?

WoolySnail · 05/12/2024 16:42

It just goes to show how different families are and how different people have a different take on things. This 100% wouldn't happen in my family. All the front rows would have been saved for all family members (in laws included) and only then would other seats be taken up. But clearly that's not the case with every family and lots of other posters wouldn't be bothered about it. I can see why you are a bit put out, but this too shall pass 🙃

wonderstuff · 05/12/2024 16:47

when I’ve attended funerals so well attended people have to stand the funeral director has requested family enter first so that they are able to be seated.

hairbearbunches · 05/12/2024 16:49

Did the Uncle have no kids of his own? Weird to have the nephews in the front cortege and at the front of the pews, imo. They're not immediate family either.

Ignore the pile on telling you you're selfish. People are behaving as though you've stamped your feet at the funeral of one your DH's parents.

despairnow · 05/12/2024 16:55

I would have thought you would sit together as a family but am no expert.

despairnow · 05/12/2024 16:57

Westofeasttoday · 05/12/2024 16:33

I think maybe take a new perspective. Someone has DIED. People are upset, emotional and maybe not thinking perfectly straight. Still you made this about you. Your selfish reaction is actually offensive.

Taken aback that the aunt wanted your husband to go into the funeral car. Who cares? That is what she wanted after her husband DIED. Where is your compassion and consideration for others. Who cares you had to drive on your own with the kids?

You wanted reserve seating? Give over. Someone DIED. They aren’t thinking about seating arrangements for perfectly capable and able family to be there.

Show up, be respectful, give your condolences, do out of your way to be kind and do what you can for her and then go home. That’s it.

Alright leave OP alone she's only asking.

GeorgeBeckett · 05/12/2024 16:57

I guess I might have thought we’d sit within a row or two of DH, but also I wouldn’t have thought that the windowed aunt would have thought about it. She’s just lost her husband, she doesn’t need a row about etiquette.

You drove across the country with your kids which is admirable. We wouldn’t have expected that in my family.

Overall I’d just be pleased that there was such a great turnout and my priority would be not to create any work or difficulty and be there for the family.

SharpOpalNewt · 05/12/2024 17:00

Their going in the funeral cars was normal, but IME people sit with their partners and kids and yes, space is normally saved for them. Though I have only been to one funeral where the church was packed out and that was sadly the one of my cousin who died young.

Personally I wouldn't make an issue of it, OP.

housethatbuiltme · 05/12/2024 17:04

WoolySnail · 05/12/2024 16:42

It just goes to show how different families are and how different people have a different take on things. This 100% wouldn't happen in my family. All the front rows would have been saved for all family members (in laws included) and only then would other seats be taken up. But clearly that's not the case with every family and lots of other posters wouldn't be bothered about it. I can see why you are a bit put out, but this too shall pass 🙃

Why on earth should a random person who barely knew the deceased and is 'family' purely by being married to a more distant family member be given a front row seat over his actual friends and those who where an active part of his life who are actually morning this person... now thats disrespectful.

OP doesn't care about this man at all, she only went because DH was going and turned it into a song and a dance all about herself being the victim in her head.

housethatbuiltme · 05/12/2024 17:06

hairbearbunches · 05/12/2024 16:49

Did the Uncle have no kids of his own? Weird to have the nephews in the front cortege and at the front of the pews, imo. They're not immediate family either.

Ignore the pile on telling you you're selfish. People are behaving as though you've stamped your feet at the funeral of one your DH's parents.

They are likely their to support their parent whose sibling it was.

PensionedCruiser · 05/12/2024 17:44

PinkertonRab · 27/11/2024 23:18

I think it was weird to split off your husbands and leave you out. I wouldn’t make a thing of it and I’m sure you didn’t but I would be mildly irritated

This. If the husbands were treated as family and sat at the the front, the wives and children should have sat with them.

I have never heard of friends being seated ahead of family, unless there was a very close connection and they were sat in the family rows, among the family - with siblings and spouses for best friends and with nephews/nieces if it was an intergenerational friendship.

GRex · 05/12/2024 18:07

If you were close to the uncle; threw family parties he came to, called him occasionally, and were grieving... then you would have been thinking about the loss of the man himself rather than about seats. It was a funeral, it was about your DH's uncle not you.

MILLYmo0se · 05/12/2024 18:10

cstaff · 05/12/2024 16:09

I don't like the sound of this. When my dad died a few years ago the front row was my mam, me and my siblings. Behind or beside us were all in-laws and grandkids.

This is in Ireland so maybe we do things differently here.

I think we do, but many of our services are in churches so there's usually tons of room. For a v large funeral eg for a young person in-laws arriving later to the ceremony might well find themselves seated away from direct family or standing

MajorCarolDanvers · 05/12/2024 18:11

It’s sounds like most funerals that I’ve been to.

stayathomer · 05/12/2024 18:13

I don’t think partners and spouses ever go in the funeral car?

Bookywookywoo · 05/12/2024 18:18

Sounds completely normal to me!

TheFunHare · 05/12/2024 18:23

Usually seating arrangements aren't top of the agenda during the shock and grief of a death. From my experience that whole period of time is a strange blur with lots of decisions needing to be made. I'm sure no offence would have been meant.

ARichtGoodDram · 05/12/2024 18:29

I think it's more that there's been a miscommunication than deliberately dismissive.

If you'd been aware of the plan for the nephews to go in the cars then you and SIL could have gone to the funeral venue earlier, rather than following a cortège.

Likelihood that's what your DH's aunt expected, and would be entirely normal.

Westofeasttoday · 05/12/2024 18:30

despairnow · 05/12/2024 16:57

Alright leave OP alone she's only asking.

Fair enough but I stand by what I said. It doesn’t hurt in specific conditions to only put other people ahead of yourself. A funeral is one of them.

User820825 · 05/12/2024 18:35

I think I would be more taken aback if you, your children, your sister in law and her children went in the funeral cars.

At all of the funerals I have been to the family sit near the front. Nobody reserves seats. People just tend to know how to behave.

paris2berlin · 05/12/2024 18:41

I agree with others there should be no expectation of you to be in funeral car / have special treatment re seating. However I’d also like to add that unless your husband was particularly close to said uncle and needs moral support that can’t be offered by his family, there should also be no obligation at all for you and your children to attend the funeral full stop.

I’ve had both an auntie and uncle die since my DH and I have been together and he has been to neither of their funerals. A cousin took his girlfriend who had never met anyone (including dead uncle) to one of them, so odd 😂

CrayonCritic5 · 05/12/2024 20:29

Unless I’ve missed something, I feel like the real issue is being missed here, and that’s that you found out you were being separated when you got to the house. Did your husband know prior that he was going in the car and not communicate that to you? Or was it a surprise to him? Either way that’s inconsiderate (especially if he know beforehand). Even if he found out when he arrived, he should have said “no, we didn’t know that was the expectation, I’m traveling with my family now”. OK maybe he really just did get in a situation where he had to do what a grieving woman wanted but he could have at least tried to bow out. If seems as though this diversion may have also resulted in you not getting there at the right time to get the sort of seat you’d feel more comfortable occupying. Yes it’s not about you but being valued to a certain degree seems reasonable.

Manthide · 05/12/2024 20:40

My younger brother died this year and in the car were my parents, me and 2 aunts and an uncle ( all widowed). When we got to the Crematorium we mixed with the guests for a few minutes and then my parents, me, my 4dc, dh, aunts, uncle, godparents etc filed in after the coffin. It wasn't a big funeral but I don't think anyone was trying to bag a better place. Everyone is there to pay their respects! I remember at my nana's funeral my mum and her sisters sat on the front row with my nana's sisters. No spouses.

xyz111 · 05/12/2024 20:50

I find it odd it's something you think about?

LifeisNOTlikeemmerdalefarm · 05/12/2024 20:56

Every funeral I have been to the undertaker reserved enough chairs for the whole family. The aunt couldn't have informed the undertaker about you and your sil plus children.
That's not grief that's in my book dismissal of you.

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