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Ex friend won’t let go

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BrightonFrock · 27/11/2024 17:08

I dropped a long-term friend seven years ago. She’d always had a selfish streak, but was a good friend in many other ways, so I let certain things go. However, her behaviour just got worse and worse. I’d helped her through a really bad time, but just a few months later I lost two close relatives in quick succession and didn’t even get a “How are you coping?” text. I was mugged when we were on holiday; she complained I was ruining things by “going on about it”. The last straw was when she ranted at me and posted shit about me on Facebook for not inviting her on a reunion night with my old work colleagues, whom she’d never met. I’d just had enough.

It took three days before she tried to come crawling back. She’d left me a very breezy voicemail (you can, or at least you could, still do that when blocked) joking about our “little spat”. When she realised I wasn’t going to respond, she switched to approaching mutual friends and asking them to act as go-betweens.

As time went on, she didn’t stop trying and ended up approaching more and more distant connections. Many of these mutual friends have now deleted her, either because she was hassling them so much about me (one friend said she kept messaging even when he said he was in the final days of writing his thesis) or because of her bizarre behaviour in general. This has been a blessing for me as she has fewer and fewer ways to try to contact me - but to be honest, I had hoped time would have resolved the issue anyway.

But apparently not. I was away with some friends at the weekend and her name came up in conversation. One of my friends said, “Oh, that reminds me - she messaged me asking about you the other day”. My heart sank. Apparently she’d sent my friend a picture of the two of us together that she’d come across the other day, and wanted to pass it on to me 🙄 My friend didn’t respond to her.

Am I alone in thinking this is getting quite creepy now? It’s been SEVEN YEARS. I can understand her thinking for a few weeks, or even months, that she might be able to put things right, but to still be chasing people for information on me years later? It’s deranged. Why would I want a copy of a picture of myself with someone I have actively avoided contacting for seven years? If a former romantic partner did this, people would be genuinely concerned.

I don’t really know if there’s anything I can do. It’s not like she’s threatened me or turned up at my house or place of work. I did consider writing to her to state that I never wanted her to contact me ever again or to chase mutual friends about me, but I get the feeling that any contact would be seen as encouragement to engage. Do I just wait and hope she finally pisses off everyone who even vaguely connects us?!

I don’t even know if there’s a solution. I think I just need some reassurance that I’m not overreacting to be creeped out by this!!

OP posts:
Livingtothefull · 09/12/2024 18:24

The OP didn't call that poster creepy actually; just that sending flowers and cards and involving friends to make contact - with someone who indicated they didn't want contact - might come across as creepy. So no I don't agree the OP was 'horrible'.

There are indeed two sides and we can't know the side of the ex-friend referred to by the poster. I acknowledge that most people benefit from empathy and kindness including, I am sure, this woman; but the OP is just not the one to be giving it to her.

BennyBee · 09/12/2024 18:28

ifIwerenotanandroid · 08/12/2024 20:21

@AngharadM Obviously it reduces stress for me & I've no idea how the other person feels. Someone's behaviour has to be pretty disordered for me to take the step of walking away, & at that point I'm protecting myself. It isn't always easy, either. There's still stress or guilt or whatever (depepnding on the previous relationship) but once it's worth getting out, I have to go.

Perhaps the other person is upset, but that doesn't mean they're in the right. A narcissist can be upset at 'losing their chew toy' as it's often put - their emotional punchbag, their source of N supply. A CF can be upset at losing their financial source. Someone who's been leaning on you too hard to fill some unfillable void in themselves will still have that void. Or it could just be that things change & people move on.

Thinking about it, I was once ghosted by someone. We'd had some laughs together & it had been nice; then her circumstances changed & off she went. I sent one card to keep in touch, she never got back to me & that's it. No need for dramatics & stalking. I wish her well, & I'm grateful for the times we had together.

I don’t think you understand what friendship is. I’ve had plenty of people cross my path and had some good times and then went our separate ways, but a real friend is someone who becomes part of you. The friend who ghosted me had been like a sister, we grew up together and shared everything. You don’t shrug your shoulders at losing that. We are talking about different things.

BrightonFrock · 09/12/2024 18:30

I don’t think you understand what friendship is. I’ve had plenty of people cross my path and had some good times and then went our separate ways, but a real friend is someone who becomes part of you.

That doesn’t mean you have to be their doormat.

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BrightonFrock · 09/12/2024 18:32

There’s always two sides

I always wonder why people post this on MN as if it’s some incredible piece of insight.

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BennyBee · 09/12/2024 18:47

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Livingtothefull · 09/12/2024 18:48

BennyBee · 09/12/2024 18:28

I don’t think you understand what friendship is. I’ve had plenty of people cross my path and had some good times and then went our separate ways, but a real friend is someone who becomes part of you. The friend who ghosted me had been like a sister, we grew up together and shared everything. You don’t shrug your shoulders at losing that. We are talking about different things.

I have had and have extremely close friends. But the bottom line is that no person - no matter how close a friend - ever becomes part of you. They still remain free to walk away at any time for any reasons, however flimsy they might be judged to be. For that matter so can a sister. Or a husband etc.

And no, you don't shrug your shoulders at losing them, and of course it is deeply hurtful. But regardless, it is still not their responsibility to mend your hurt. It is the 'deserted' person's responsibility to let them go and find their own way to deal with the hurt.

Livingtothefull · 09/12/2024 18:49

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Trolling?? On her own thread???!!! I have heard it all now.

BrightonFrock · 09/12/2024 18:55

“Histrionics”? Seriously? For saying someone has treated me like a doormat?

If I’ve said it made her evil, or that it was the worst thing anyone had ever done to me, THAT would be histrionics. I think saying she treated me like a doormat because she expected to be able to publicly slag me off, send me abusive messages and then have me forget all about it days later is actually pretty mild.

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whatnow5 · 09/12/2024 19:04

I don’t agree with loads of these posts basically expecting the OP to go along with what this poor old dear friend wants because they feel sorry for her. OP doesn’t actually owe her an explanation, and any normal person would have stopped attempting to contact someone who doesn’t want to be contacted years ago. A couple of emails and a message via a mutual friend, and then take the bloody hint. (Ps, sending flowers repeatedly to someone who doesn’t want to speak to you is creepy! No response is a response!)

OP what did the emails etc say? Did she ever apologise?

I also don’t think you’re in the wrong for not contacting her to tell her not to get in touch. People like this just don’t listen, and you’re risking opening the floodgates.

BennyBee · 09/12/2024 19:05

Ok, you are clearly still WAY more upset about it than you are claiming to be. I don't think it is just your friend who needs to move on. I am moving on from this thread now because it is getting a tad silly. Have a nice life!

(oh look, I left and explained why. Easy. I wonder if you will stalk me.) LOL

whatnow5 · 09/12/2024 19:09

BennyBee · 09/12/2024 18:28

I don’t think you understand what friendship is. I’ve had plenty of people cross my path and had some good times and then went our separate ways, but a real friend is someone who becomes part of you. The friend who ghosted me had been like a sister, we grew up together and shared everything. You don’t shrug your shoulders at losing that. We are talking about different things.

This is enmeshment. I understand why your “friend” ghosted you, you were probably way too much for her. Therapy might help you understand healthy boundaries.

BrightonFrock · 09/12/2024 19:15

You really think someone who is upset for not being included on a night out is treating you like a doormat?

Given that you ignored the information in my opening post, I’m not anticipating a “Yes” here - but did you actually read the explanation (for which YOU asked) of why she wasn’t included? Because you’re still acting like she was just a bit naturally upset at not being included, whereas she was actually ranting like a banshee at not being asked to a reunion night for someone else’s former colleagues. That is not the action of a sane woman.

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BrightonFrock · 09/12/2024 19:17

oh look, I left and explained why. Easy.

You have massively overestimated my interest.

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BrightonFrock · 09/12/2024 19:18

OP what did the emails etc say? Did she ever apologise?

She did, briefly, in one of the voicemails. The emails were literally just “I’m in London this weekend; let me know if you want to meet to talk”. I didn’t.

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whatnow5 · 09/12/2024 19:20

BrightonFrock · 09/12/2024 19:18

OP what did the emails etc say? Did she ever apologise?

She did, briefly, in one of the voicemails. The emails were literally just “I’m in London this weekend; let me know if you want to meet to talk”. I didn’t.

That shows that she knows why you fell out then.

I think it’s time to get a mutual friend to tell her to stop embarrassing herself and to drop it, that you aren’t interested now and never will be, and the bridge has been burned.

Squiggles23 · 09/12/2024 19:38

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Squiggles23 · 09/12/2024 19:39

BrightonFrock · 09/12/2024 19:17

oh look, I left and explained why. Easy.

You have massively overestimated my interest.

And the OP still doesn’t get it 😂

MiraculousLadybug · 09/12/2024 20:09

Squiggles23 · 09/12/2024 19:39

And the OP still doesn’t get it 😂

Have you thought about having a nice lie down somewhere dark and quiet?

BrightonFrock · 09/12/2024 20:18

Squiggles23 · 09/12/2024 19:39

And the OP still doesn’t get it 😂

And still you keep popping up like a Whack-a-Mole, despite having announced to everyone that you were leaving the thread (to a resounding lack of interest)…

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Isatis · 10/12/2024 09:28

bluegreygreen · 08/12/2024 14:07

I don't think it would add much at this stage, and I'm sure she understands after 7 years that you do not wish to be in contact with her. I think she should stop trying.

I also think it would have been both courteous and politic for you to make a clear statement at the start.

But how was OP supposed to work out that the situation was unclear to ex friend? Ex friend was really offensive about her publicly, OP blocked her and continued to block her. Do you really think ex friend was sitting there with no clue about what had happened?

BrightonFrock · 10/12/2024 13:12

Exactly @Isatis. I’m at a loss as to how one or two posters have come up with the idea that my former friend doesn’t have a clue what she’s done wrong and is desperate for “closure”.

Did she think I was justified in blocking her? Almost definitely not. Did she dismiss it as me having a little strop and think it would all die down after a while? Almost definitely. But she 100% knew what she’d done - and if she has any sense, she’ll have realised it was just the tip of the iceberg.

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ifIwerenotanandroid · 10/12/2024 16:31

@BennyBee 'I don’t think you understand what friendship is.'

😂Honestly, I went to the end of the last page in the thread & was reading backwards & kept seeing people replying to this rather odd post - only to find when I'd got far enough back that it was aimed at me! Priceless.

ChemicalStatement · 30/01/2025 12:37

BrightonFrock · 27/11/2024 17:08

I dropped a long-term friend seven years ago. She’d always had a selfish streak, but was a good friend in many other ways, so I let certain things go. However, her behaviour just got worse and worse. I’d helped her through a really bad time, but just a few months later I lost two close relatives in quick succession and didn’t even get a “How are you coping?” text. I was mugged when we were on holiday; she complained I was ruining things by “going on about it”. The last straw was when she ranted at me and posted shit about me on Facebook for not inviting her on a reunion night with my old work colleagues, whom she’d never met. I’d just had enough.

It took three days before she tried to come crawling back. She’d left me a very breezy voicemail (you can, or at least you could, still do that when blocked) joking about our “little spat”. When she realised I wasn’t going to respond, she switched to approaching mutual friends and asking them to act as go-betweens.

As time went on, she didn’t stop trying and ended up approaching more and more distant connections. Many of these mutual friends have now deleted her, either because she was hassling them so much about me (one friend said she kept messaging even when he said he was in the final days of writing his thesis) or because of her bizarre behaviour in general. This has been a blessing for me as she has fewer and fewer ways to try to contact me - but to be honest, I had hoped time would have resolved the issue anyway.

But apparently not. I was away with some friends at the weekend and her name came up in conversation. One of my friends said, “Oh, that reminds me - she messaged me asking about you the other day”. My heart sank. Apparently she’d sent my friend a picture of the two of us together that she’d come across the other day, and wanted to pass it on to me 🙄 My friend didn’t respond to her.

Am I alone in thinking this is getting quite creepy now? It’s been SEVEN YEARS. I can understand her thinking for a few weeks, or even months, that she might be able to put things right, but to still be chasing people for information on me years later? It’s deranged. Why would I want a copy of a picture of myself with someone I have actively avoided contacting for seven years? If a former romantic partner did this, people would be genuinely concerned.

I don’t really know if there’s anything I can do. It’s not like she’s threatened me or turned up at my house or place of work. I did consider writing to her to state that I never wanted her to contact me ever again or to chase mutual friends about me, but I get the feeling that any contact would be seen as encouragement to engage. Do I just wait and hope she finally pisses off everyone who even vaguely connects us?!

I don’t even know if there’s a solution. I think I just need some reassurance that I’m not overreacting to be creeped out by this!!

She sounds very self centered and toxic.
It's possible she has narcisisstic personality disorder. People with NPD have a collection of other people's images in their head. The time that passed has no impact on this as it's all a self centered phantasy.
Then she only saw what you could do for her and wants more of the same.

No contact is the only real solution.

Cazmaz28 · 25/06/2025 10:32

Sometimes people just want a fresh start and clear out the cobwebs and part of that is looking at friendships etc I’m a firm believer that if someone wants you in their life they make contact . She doesn’t need rescuing . Accept she’s made her choice

Cazmaz28 · 25/06/2025 10:40

Yes your completely spot in . This no longer has anything to do with friendship this has all to do with control . People like this can not cope with being wrong or moving on . The same type of person would get back into the friendship just to be the one who did the dumping . It’s control nothing more nothing less . She isn’t happy with the other persons decision . That’s her problem . She prob needs therapy