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People seem angrier somehow

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MissMarplesCat · 24/11/2024 21:27

Probably noticed it previously but it really feels that way recently. Other than that, it might be my own perception, but I can't see why. Things are generally ok in my life, and I find it easy to get along with people.

So for a while I notice people are somehow less friendly, some openly rude. I am sure it was always this way, but I'm not too sure.

We have been away to a popular tourist area recently and instead of seeming happy or excited a lot of people looked pretty pissed off, especially on the roads, although the roads weren't packed.

Several people have been openly rude to me, especially men, and I wondered wtf, could it be something about me? I look pretty benign really, so can't see how, but if it happens enough you do wonder!

I get that the world is screwed up right now, and people are having a hard time in general, but to me it seems to be since covid, or maybe it was always there and I have only just noticed?

I don't recall people being so abrupt and unfriendly years ago, but I guess that's all I've got to go on.

I travel around the UK quite a bit with work, and have noticed it all over, not just in my own particular provincial backwater

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VacuumPacked · 30/11/2024 11:17

MissMarplesCat · 25/11/2024 01:13

Yes, because it's all due to immigration isn't it?
I doubt anyone is gaslighting us, since it's all anyone ever fucking talks about anymore. It's hardly an unknown subject!
I can guarantee that the countless stressed out faces I see out there, and the vehicles clogging up the lake district have sod all to do with the millions coming into the country every year.

I suppose they are to blame for excessive vehicle noise, modded cars and the stench of skunk everywhere too? Our poor, pressed white boys are feeling the pinch. Perhaps this is why dog attacks are on the increase, as the people responsible are rarely challenged. It must be why the young white male feels disenfranchised, why incels are becoming more vocal. Why look to our own cultural issues when we can just blame it on some ambiguous 'other'.

knock on effect -

VacuumPacked · 30/11/2024 11:20

Pigeonqueen · 25/11/2024 07:45

Is it really over crowding though? Look at Japan etc - much more overcrowded in the big cities than we are and generally impeccable manners, hardly any violence etc. I wonder what’s the difference going on there. It must be a cultural thing, surely..

I believe Japan is culturally immersed - which traditionally, as an island, we were.

VacuumPacked · 30/11/2024 11:41

MissMarplesCat · 25/11/2024 11:21

Not surprised my comment was 'thanked' more than your own.

But then that's taking the bait isn't it?
You could say that I am tired of the subject replacing all constructive discussion about literally anything online.
Now fuck off to the Reform threads where you'll feel much more understood..

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not only rude but insulting and I had been with you until this outburst

VacuumPacked · 30/11/2024 11:42

MissMarplesCat · 25/11/2024 11:30

Also, telling people that the rudeness and aggression they witness in others, especially men, is all in their heads is ...kinda problematic.

So those of us who have witnessed it are simply the victims of our own perception?

Nice try.
I don't have to grow a thicker skin, nor does it render me faulty or weak....which leads me to this observation, too:

Thinking further into this, I also think that the elephant in the room could possibly be a class thing after all. Let's just say there's another brash visitor to UK holiday areas and they aren't the National Trust types....but i do believe they are spending more money, so everything serves them. That's business.

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ditto

atotalshambles · 30/11/2024 11:56

I have been on a few overcrowded trains in the last year and it is interesting to see how people 'pretend' as if other people are not there. I was on a train to London which was super-packed and people would push past people almost knocking them over (they were in the aisles) and it would as if these people did not even exist. Only one person said 'excuse me' - it was interesting but also a bit sad. I have noticed how people have become more entitled and self-centred as if the whole world has to revolve around them and there is no patience about anything. I was Chrismas shopping this week and we had to wait for about 10 minutes to try things on and some of the people were complaining so loudly and I felt so sorry for the people working there. No patience for queues or any minor inconvenience.

theresabluebirdinmyheart · 30/11/2024 14:23

@Janebigwither exactly the way I feel, you worded it so well 💯

notjaneausten · 23/03/2025 21:33

There are far too many people. We’re all fighting for a little bit of space, surely it can’t end happily?

user1467300911 · 24/03/2025 07:50

The situation feels worse in the UK relative to other European countries because of Brexit and 12 years of austerity, where the UK was starved of investment in infrastructure and public services.

I notice that people who didn’t vote Tory/Reform/Brexit are so very angry with people who did. People try not to raise the topic too much but it is simmering beneath the surface.

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