To want a way to label the reasonable fear of the variety of Islam that wishes to impose Sharia law?

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I understand that there are different sects within Islam and that while some pose no concerns, others do. I am horrified at the type of Sharia law imposed in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan, which denies women human rights, but it's hard to talk about those reasonable fears without being labelled Islamophobic. It's not unreasonable to fear a religion that imposes such harsh lives on women.

This.

Which might be the word of our creator?

Why is it a big deal if it written by a man?

Is this referring to a post?

Not sure what you mean here

Perhaps secularisation of the UK

I get you now. Yes that's probably worth a discussion. I don't have a strong view but it is a decent question

As religious influence goes I'll take the UK over many other countries.

The op mentions countries I would fear living in as a woman and with dc, including a dd. Not irrationally

Huffalumps Tony Blair a catholic convert and Bush both prayed together before starting a war that killed millions of people, something that our democracy supported, now compare that to a few lone wolf suicide attacks in the name of religion. Religious gas definitely been used to support American imperialism and all the harm that has caused to many people across the world. Look how many wars America has started. Westerners see suicide bombs as bad but bombs from planes as good and can’t see the hypocrisy of it were to slap them in the face.

The Palestinian marches in London are full of Islamic extremists showing support for terrorist groups. So many chants of ‘from the river to the sea’, ‘houthis houthis make us proud’, ‘resistance is justified (I.e october 7th) and comparing Israeli Jews to Hitler. Also see chants of ‘khaybar khaybar ya yahood’, quoting the part of the Quran where Jews were massacred. And leftists March alongside these extremists. Islamic extremism and the left truly are an unholy trinity in the UK.

and the police are useless. These extremists get away with these awful chants by and large, whilst most of the Jewish community are left terrified. I am Jewish and avoid central London every single time there’s a march on. 2024 and Jews have to avoid parts of the UK because of openly racist, genocidal chants against us, it’s sickening.

why are more Brits not up in arms about this?!

And as for the wonderful civilised France , it wasn’t that long ago it was testing its nuclear weapons on or near its colonies or former colonies.

It's very boring that people insist on associating the left with terrorists. First Islamic extremism isn't a left wing ideology, it's more far right. Some far right factions support the Taliban.

Second, supporting Palestinians isn't automatically support for Hamas or any other Islamic extremist organisation.

I was going to say similar. Western countries drop bombs safe in the knowledge that the countries they bomb don't have the ability drop bombs back. Then they act surprised and horrified when something happens on their soil.

Some countries in The West have merrily supported a man who now has an warrant out for his arrest for crimes against humanity. Yet if something were to happen on US ground for instance, despite the fact their weapons are being used in those crimes against humanity people would be horrified, oh no innocent US civillians dead, what awful people could do that, the same type of people who supported crimes against humanity I'm guessing.

There are awful, cruel, inhumane people the world over. Some drop bombs, some pass the bombs to people who then drop them, others blow themselves up with the bombs. All of this is wrong but to us of course the people who blow themselves up amongst us seem the worst because they are the only ones that directly effect us. That's not really the full picture though is it.

What about Putin in Chetnya? In Ukraine?
What about SA in the Yemen?
What about Bashir in Syria?
So many awful wars.
So many awful wars centuries ago
So many awful wars to come in the future

So what if there are a few beheadings in France. Blood shed in a music venue. A few dozen? Twenty people dead at a children's concert? So few, these dead don't matter by comparison..... Can you hear yourself?

Well guess what. It is in our 'beloved' European countries that have to accept immigrants who within their ranks contain terrorists. These nutjibs do what they do in the name of religion. They use religion as a weapon in war against women (Yazidis?), against their OWN women and girls. For many Islamic countries, women are child bearers only with no rights as human individuals. I cannot believe you are comparing Blair and Bush's blushing religious convictions to the strategic and systemic use (misuse?) of religion as an instrument of repression, torture and murder.

Each to their own I suppose. Still, you need for the UK population to accept....what exactly? Islamists in our cities? Sharia law in our public institutions? Political movements based on religious affiliation? Oh the irony: the anti war liberals fighting to integrate the illiberal and intolerant. Those very same Islamists who would bomb them, slit their throats or otherwise bind them in shrouds and multitude their bodies.

Yes it's awful

Well done for completely ignoring what I wrote in my post. All of the above chants have been repeatedly chanted at each of the Palestinian marches. Supporting the Houthis, a proscribed terrorist organisation, and chanting about resistance being justified is supporting terrorists, not ordinary Palestinians. It is perfectly possible to show your anger about Israel’s actions, and that you care about Palestinians, without openly supporting Iran’s terror proxies in the region. And yes, the people marching alongside those holding these extremist placards are the left wing. Also refer to Corbyn calling members of Hamas and Hezbollah (proscribed brutal, paedophilic, women raping terrorist groups) his ‘friends’. Stop trying to gaslight Jews into thinking that we’re imagining all this.

First Islamic extremism isn't a left wing ideology, it's more far right

This is where I want to weep in despair. We all know Islamism is far right. That is why it's such a paradox to see the left and far left week in week out defending self same terrorists. Beggars belief

Well done for yet again saying the left support terrorists. The vast majority of people in the pro Palestinian marches are peaceful and want an end to the war crimes and depravity.

The left don't support terrorists. They don't support those wanted for war crimes either, Starmer said the government will support the arrest warrants.

I think that anyone feeling threatened in the UK is bad. I was particularly concerned for those targeted in the recent riots. Everyone deserves to feel safe.

If i went on a march and there was 1 person next to me holding a placard supporting a proscribed terrorist group, I would start to consider what kind of march I was partaking in.

If there were multiple people on this march holding placards supporting terrorist groups and shouting chants about massacring Jews (Google Khaybar khaybar), and these same people were showing up to every March, I would certainly ask what the hell this March was about and seek to distance myself from it.

the fact that these extremists are a minority is no excuse. What is deeply concerning is that hundreds of thousands of people are perfectly happy to March alongside this extremist minority, and make zero effort to remove them from the movement. That is deeply telling. As the saying goes ‘If there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, then you’ve got a table with 11 Nazis’.

im not calling for the marches to be banned entirely. I’m calling for stronger policing to root out these extremists, and for the organisers of the march to actively make it clear that these extremists are not welcome at the marches. I’ve seen none of that so far.

Perhaps because its absolute bullshit?

https://www.instagram.com/antisemitism?igsh=aTh5dTNnMmZvcWRx. This page has documented the many examples of terror support and anti-Semitic placards at the Palestine marches. I suggest you start to educate yourself.

Again, stop trying to gaslight Jews into thinking that we are imagining these genocidal chants against us.

@Huffalumps

This is what I was getting at. Posters are so keen to slate Christianity and how awful we are yet our country's law and order has its foundation in Christianity

Isn't it better than Sharia.

We allow immigrants into the UK from many countries that have dubious laws and views. Some of which have awful amounts of discrimination and VAWAG. Many don't respect human rights.

If there is unrest, it's probably down to a number of factors and I'm afraid that democracy means that anyone can form a political party.

Yeah because the account doesn't seem very partisan at all does it (sarcasm)

Why are they producing merch that says Hamas are terrorists in the colours of the Palestinian flag? Such hypocrites would be crying anti-semitism if a similar thing was said about Netanyahu or the Israeli government in the colours of the Israeli flag.

Partisan about … anti-semitism? No, I should hope not. I would hope being against anti-senitism is a non-partisan cause.

but putting aside the views of the account owners, are you denying the photos and videos that they have posted from the Palestine rallies? Do you think they’ve all been photoshopped or edited or something? They’re clearly showing photos and videos of people supporting terrorists, and holding anti-Semitic placards.

why are you so intent on defending the extremists? Surely you should be shunning them too, and saying these people aren’t welcome in the pro-Palestine movement. Why arent you doing that?

If they were saying ‘Palestinians are terrorists’, you may have a point. That aside, have you taken a look at any of the photos or videos they’ve posted from the rallies? Do you have any comments on them?

It is disgusting and I think most of the people naively defending it or accusing people of racism etc for being against it are just completely ignorant. Look at what happened in Iran. Leftists supported the Islamists and now the population is terrorised by the regime and can't fight it because they have no freedom.

Look how fast the far right protests were shut down. OK, so have the same energy for these protests and this ideology.