Captain Tom's daughter

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Who would have thought it?

They fancied Barbados....

@hopeishere I see the first two but surely the last isn’t that grey? She write that it would.

Oh, yes, I know; it was interesting that they didn't fancy making family memories in Grandad's final years in Scarborough or Bournemouth!

I think the big holiday is just one more facet of what a lot of people on this thread (and throughout the country) have been asking about this whole fiasco, though: how much was done with Tom's full knowledge, how much with him giving his blessing/happily going along with it, and/or how much did he not have the faintest idea about or decision in - or maybe even did know and disagreed with?

The whole thing reeked of exploitation from the start. The way no one gave a shit that they openly and proudly flounced lockdown rules as people who’d lost jobs, businesses and loved ones spent Christmas alone, was crass as fuck

They were still rolling him out with his full rack of medals on in Barbados, at times, there are still pictures around. Who does that? My thinking is that it was part of the "brand".

I have an open mind on Tom Moore's intentions so like others feel uneasy about how much control he actually had by that point.

God they are every shade of shady aren’t they. She and her husband. How morbidity fascinating and hideously repellent all at the same time. Crap legacy for the well meaning little old fella though. That pair have tarnished everything.

Me too. All very dodgy from the start.

Nor did I. Like you I had my suspicions from the start.

God the insane generalisations. Are we really this dim on mumsnet?

It appears that since they haven't actually done anything for which they can be prosecuted that they will go their own sweet way. They simply don't care that people know what they've done - legally they probably can't be touched for the apparent scam and they don't care what people think of them. They've squeezed in just on the right side of criminality, though they have misled everyone.

Personally I hope that some way can be found to extract some of the money they have appropriated and possibly prosecute them, though it isn't obvious how when you read the report:
www.gov.uk/government/news/family-repeatedly-benefitted-from-mismanaged-captain-tom-foundation-investigation-finds
Apparently she is now selling £3,500 life coaching sessions on her website.

It was for hydrotherapy relief. She had carpel tunnel syndrome and Repetitive strain injury from getting her dad up for GMTV every day, dressing him, polishing his medals and greasing his Zimmer frame to make him walk faster. She also had to endlessly count huge sums of money and divide it into ‘one for you’ and ‘one for me’ piles. It was physically gruelling work.

I tuned out these thieves when she kept rocking up at events. Wimbledon was just nauseating when she stood up to receive applause like she was royalty.

They should be made to pay their ill-gotten gains to worthy charities.

I wonder if the children were complicit as they started to pop up with her everywhere.

😂

Didn't surprise me at all and rather suspected it early on after seeing interviews with her. Today's wealthy are statistically stingy when it comes to charity ... they hoard their wealth.

Naughty.

I am a leftie who hates this country. I knew they were grifting cunts from the get go. 😅

I saw a documentary about them a while back and it showed her literally manuevering him, feeding him his lines, telling him what facial expressions to pull. It was like watching someone from Jim Henson's operating a sesame street puppet. He seemed completely unaware of his surroundings. I wouldn't be surprised if she drugged him to the hilt to make him compliant. Like one of those circus animals.
They were selling all sorts of appealing tat, bottles of no brand gin with a black and white picture of an old man with a walking frame on the front for sixty quid? God knows why they got so greedy. They were already multimillionaires to begin with.
Horrible woman.

Is there evidence of this behaviour in the past? Is this behaviour how they became rich?

not all rich people are like this and just as it’s unfair to tar all charities with the same brush it is the same to do so with rich people!!

Don't stray over onto " the other site " then. Or maybe yes try it!

The thing is, people who reach a very great age like him can go downhill very quickly at the end. This was obviously hastened by the blasted Barbados trip (on which he seemed to be a lot less strong), but I think there was an element of propping him up like El Cid on his horse while they still could and I don't think that was for NHS Charities, at all.

While all this was at its frenzied best I remember telling my sister that our grandfather (who I remember but she doesn't, WW1 survivor) would have walked Tom's laps in a straight line to the nearest pub. I think as a country we need to stop this queasy nostalgia about WW2, it was not the sentimental, jingo nonsense that it seems to have turned into now most of the survivors who might have argued against are dead.

WW1 had Harry Patch as a final symbol and I think was much better served.

Saw it from day 1. And the over the top arse licking the BBC in particular gave them really annoyed me as I saw through it from the start. Glad they have been exposed

Totally agree. When I was a child everyone of my grandparents generation had fought or done some other duty in the war. It wasn't as if anyone had a choice.

Were they always Ingram-Moore or did they add the Moore on as part of the grift?? I think maybe they did?
Sorry if this has already been mentioned upthread

I had a feeling from the beginning with her therefore I didn't donate to the charity as I don't to any big charity as I think the chief executives wages are too high. I always donate to local and small charities. Rescue centres etc. In the case of Hannah Ingram- Moore. When she saw his cause going viral she saw a way to profiteer and has totally tarnished her fathers name. He will be turning in his grave.

it's impossible to say how far he (Tom) was 'in on it'.

I think almost certainly some of the way, equally likely not all of the way.